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#1 2020-10-27 19:23:23

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[Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Hi everyone, I'm new to the world of Arch Linux, I recently installed Arch on a VM and on my desktop with no problems.
So today I decide to install it on my old laptop.
The installation proceeds normally and then as a desktop environment I choose KDE, I install XOrg and KDE with all its applications, I enable SDDM with the systemctl and after rebooting, it starts freezing on  /dev/sda1: clean ...
So I decide to read some threads and some wikis, I try to install the drivers of my video card but nothing that can fix my problem.
Thanks in advance and have a nice day.
Computer:
Olivetti Olibook P1500 M765s:
CPU:Intel Core 2 Duo T6500
RAM: 4 GB RAM
Memory: 120GB of SSD
GPU: SiS M671

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#2 2020-10-27 19:53:49

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

We're gonna need more than "doesn't work"

I suggest to start by posting your system journal (in code tags or using a pastebin service, see the first link in my signature for a convenient way to do so)
Also remove the "quiet" parameter from the kernel commandline and on a wild guess see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ke … _KMS_start

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#3 2020-10-27 20:14:27

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Hi, thank you very much for the reply, I apologize for not posting any logs and I'm sorry, however now I ran the "journalctl" and here is the whole log:
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F8xjKQ7DZf/

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#4 2020-10-27 20:22:27

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

No need to apologize. The last boot would btw. have been sufficient.

ott 27 20:33:23 piccino systemd[1]: Reached target Multi-User System.
ott 27 20:33:23 piccino kernel: audit: type=1130 audit(1603827203.435:17): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=systemd-logind comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
ott 27 20:33:23 piccino systemd[1]: Started Simple Desktop Display Manager.
ott 27 20:33:23 piccino audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=sddm comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
ott 27 20:33:23 piccino systemd[1]: Reached target Graphical Interface.
ott 27 20:33:23 piccino kernel: audit: type=1130 audit(1603827203.475:18): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=sddm comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
ott 27 20:33:23 piccino systemd[1]: Startup finished in 2.373s (kernel) + 4.507s (userspace) = 6.881s.
ott 27 20:33:23 piccino sddm[289]: Initializing...
ott 27 20:33:23 piccino sddm[289]: Starting...
ott 27 20:33:23 piccino sddm[289]: Logind interface found
ott 27 20:33:32 piccino kernel: sis190 0000:00:04.0 enp0s4: auto-negotiating...
ott 27 20:34:20 piccino systemd[1]: Started Getty on tty2.

SDDM starts and there's no indication of any error before you login von VT2.

Let's see the xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#General

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#5 2020-10-27 20:34:06

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

I tried to search both folders, /var/log/ and ~ /.local/share/xorg/, found nothing, the .local folder doesn't even exist

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#6 2020-10-27 20:36:35

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

pacman -Qs xorg

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#7 2020-10-27 20:52:03

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

seth wrote:
pacman -Qs xorg
local/xf86-input-libinput 0.30.0-1 (xorg-drivers)
    Generic input driver for the X.Org server based on libinput
local/xf86-video-vesa 2.5.0-1 (xorg-drivers xorg)
    X.org vesa video driver
local/xorg-bdftopcf 1.1-2 (xorg xorg-apps)
    Convert X font from Bitmap Distribution Format to Portable Compiled Format
local/xorg-docs 1.7.1-3 (xorg)
    X.org documentations
local/xorg-font-util 1.3.2-2 (xorg-fonts xorg)
    X.Org font utilities
local/xorg-fonts-100dpi 1.0.3-7 (xorg)
    X.org 100dpi fonts
local/xorg-fonts-75dpi 1.0.3-7 (xorg)
    X.org 75dpi fonts
local/xorg-fonts-alias-100dpi 1.0.4-1
    X.org font alias files - 100dpi font familiy
local/xorg-fonts-alias-75dpi 1.0.4-1
    X.org font alias files - 75dpi font familiy
local/xorg-fonts-encodings 1.0.5-2 (xorg-fonts xorg)
    X.org font encoding files
local/xorg-iceauth 1.0.8-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    ICE authority file utility
local/xorg-mkfontscale 1.2.1-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Create an index of scalable font files for X
local/xorg-server 1.20.9-2 (xorg)
    Xorg X server
local/xorg-server-common 1.20.9-2 (xorg)
    Xorg server common files
local/xorg-server-devel 1.20.9-2 (xorg)
    Development files for the X.Org X server
local/xorg-server-xephyr 1.20.9-2 (xorg)
    A nested X server that runs as an X application
local/xorg-server-xnest 1.20.9-2 (xorg)
    A nested X server that runs as an X application
local/xorg-server-xvfb 1.20.9-2 (xorg)
    Virtual framebuffer X server
local/xorg-server-xwayland 1.20.9-2 (xorg)
    run X clients under wayland
local/xorg-sessreg 1.1.2-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Register X sessions in system utmp/utmpx databases
local/xorg-setxkbmap 1.3.2-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Set the keyboard using the X Keyboard Extension
local/xorg-smproxy 1.0.6-3 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Allows X applications that do not support X11R6 session management to participate in an X11R6 session
local/xorg-util-macros 1.19.2-2
    X.Org Autotools macros
local/xorg-x11perf 1.6.1-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Simple X server performance benchmarker
local/xorg-xauth 1.1-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    X.Org authorization settings program
local/xorg-xbacklight 1.2.3-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    RandR-based backlight control application
local/xorg-xcmsdb 1.0.5-3 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Device Color Characterization utility for X Color Management System
local/xorg-xcursorgen 1.0.7-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Create an X cursor file from PNG images
local/xorg-xdpyinfo 1.3.2-4 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Display information utility for X
local/xorg-xdriinfo 1.0.6-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Query configuration information of DRI drivers
local/xorg-xev 1.2.4-1 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Print contents of X events
local/xorg-xgamma 1.0.6-3 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Alter a monitor's gamma correction
local/xorg-xhost 1.0.8-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Server access control program for X
local/xorg-xinput 1.6.3-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Small commandline tool to configure devices
local/xorg-xkbcomp 1.4.3-1 (xorg-apps xorg)
    X Keyboard description compiler
local/xorg-xkbevd 1.1.4-3 (xorg-apps xorg)
    XKB event daemon
local/xorg-xkbutils 1.0.4-4 (xorg-apps xorg)
    XKB utility demos
local/xorg-xkill 1.0.5-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Kill a client by its X resource
local/xorg-xlsatoms 1.1.3-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    List interned atoms defined on server
local/xorg-xlsclients 1.1.4-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    List client applications running on a display
local/xorg-xmessage 1.0.5-2
    Display a message or query in a window
local/xorg-xmodmap 1.0.10-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Utility for modifying keymaps and button mappings
local/xorg-xpr 1.0.5-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Print an X window dump from xwd
local/xorg-xprop 1.2.4-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Property displayer for X
local/xorg-xrandr 1.5.1-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Primitive command line interface to RandR extension
local/xorg-xrdb 1.2.0-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    X server resource database utility
local/xorg-xrefresh 1.0.6-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Refresh all or part of an X screen
local/xorg-xset 1.2.4-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    User preference utility for X
local/xorg-xsetroot 1.1.2-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Classic X utility to set your root window background to a given pattern or color
local/xorg-xvinfo 1.1.4-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Prints out the capabilities of any video adaptors associated with the display that are accessible through the X-Video extension
local/xorg-xwd 1.0.7-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    X Window System image dumping utility
local/xorg-xwininfo 1.1.5-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    Command-line utility to print information about windows on an X server
local/xorg-xwud 1.0.5-2 (xorg-apps xorg)
    X Window System image undumping utility
local/xorgproto 2020.1-1
    combined X.Org X11 Protocol headers

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#8 2020-10-27 20:58:32

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

That's fine (actually looks like all xorg packages)

The only explanation left could be that the X11 server crashes before even writing a log.
Did you try to enable early KMS?

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#9 2020-10-27 21:01:02

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

seth wrote:

That's fine (actually looks like all xorg packages)

The only explanation left could be that the X11 server crashes before even writing a log.
Did you try to enable early KMS?

I don't even know what it is, do I try to activate this KMS?

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#10 2020-10-27 21:02:01

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

2nd link in post #2

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#11 2020-10-27 21:04:01

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

seth wrote:

2nd link in post #2

There is a problem, I don't have any of these video cards, do I try nouveau?

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#12 2020-10-27 21:13:40

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

However I tried to enable KMS with the nouveau and no log appears

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#13 2020-10-27 21:24:56

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

GPU: SiS M671

Should have paid more attention…
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SiS

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#14 2020-10-27 21:25:53

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

seth wrote:

GPU: SiS M671

Should have paid more attention…
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SiS

I also tried to install these drivers, nothing has changed

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#15 2020-10-27 21:28:45

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SiS

Note: Driver is only working on linux-lts with iomem=relaxed kernel parameter

The journal you posted was from linux without iomem=relaxed
Please also post the config you created with the settings from the SiS wiki page.

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#16 2020-10-27 21:38:51

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

loqs wrote:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SiS

Note: Driver is only working on linux-lts with iomem=relaxed kernel parameter

The journal you posted was from linux without iomem=relaxed
Please also post the config you created with the settings from the SiS wiki page.

then i try to reinstall the drivers and enable that parameter on the grub

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#17 2020-10-27 21:42:00

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Also use linux-lts not linux.

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#18 2020-10-27 21:45:20

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

There's also https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SiS#SiS_671_card and idk how relevant that is.

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#19 2020-10-27 21:58:23

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

loqs wrote:

Also use linux-lts not linux.

I tried to: install linux-lts, install sis driver, add iomem=relaxed to the grub and still sddm won't start.

seth wrote:

There's also https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SiS#SiS_671_card and idk how relevant that is.

The step that involves modifying the xorg configuration I cannot do it because xorg is unable to start and therefore the xorg configuration file is not there.

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#20 2020-10-27 22:04:27

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

The step that involves modifying the xorg configuration I cannot do it because xorg is unable to start and therefore the xorg configuration file is not there.

That makes no sense at all. The config file will be there because you wrote it. eg.

vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-sis-stuff.conf

and put the contents of the three boxes under https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SiS#xorg.conf there and als add the previously linked part (again: idk what that does or how important it is)

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#21 2020-10-27 22:15:40

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

seth wrote:

The step that involves modifying the xorg configuration I cannot do it because xorg is unable to start and therefore the xorg configuration file is not there.

That makes no sense at all. The config file will be there because you wrote it. eg.

vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-sis-stuff.conf

and put the contents of the three boxes under https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SiS#xorg.conf there and als add the previously linked part (again: idk what that does or how important it is)

Nothing has changed, I tried to do as you say but it doesn't work

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#22 2020-10-27 22:17:53

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Post the config you created, the journal of the last boot (sudo journalctl -b), the output of "lspci -k" and check whether there's meanwhile an xorg log.

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#23 2020-10-27 22:19:11

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Moving to Newbie Corner.

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#24 2020-10-27 22:27:17

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

seth wrote:

Post the config you created, the journal of the last boot (sudo journalctl -b), the output of "lspci -k" and check whether there's meanwhile an xorg log.

Journal: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZVw3c9nn4y/
Lspci: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2pSJmRnsR9/
Config: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PqNSSGhvFv/
No xorg log

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#25 2020-10-28 06:58:55

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

However, I did find out a bit more, the video card drivers are now incompatible with new versions of Xorg and the only way to get it started is to install an old version of Xorg probably. I close.

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