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#1 2021-08-16 19:09:53

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NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

today i got a very weird issue with network manager at first network manager had very low speed readings and spikes it was solved through not opening the desktop applet to check the speed reading after reboot but now it came back (rebooted many times) and network manager shows i have 0bit/s up and downstream i am still able to access the web although almost everything else seems to not work (for ex konsole & pacman -S) so i booted a mint cinnamon live iso and network manager worked flawlessly i have had this problem before but not on arch it seems to be caused by the combination of kde plasma 5 and NetworkManager any suggestion?

* there are no 2 instances of NetworkManager running on my laptop

WiFi chip set : Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 30)
driver: ath10k
modification (lsmod) listed as ath10k_pci and ath10k_core
what i tried: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Networ … leshooting atheros section
"As of Linux 3.15.1, some users have been experiencing a decrease in bandwidth. In some cases this can fixed by setting the nohwcrypt=1 option for the ath9k module. "
although i am not sure i did it right as it is intended for the ath9k driver

help would be very appreciated

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#2 2021-08-16 21:17:21

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

* there are no 2 instances of NetworkManager running on my laptop

That wasn't my point in the other thread, please post the requested output.

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#3 2021-08-17 11:07:13

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

seth wrote:

* there are no 2 instances of NetworkManager running on my laptop

That wasn't my point in the other thread, please post the requested output.

here is the output for this series of commands:
find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f

cronie.service                           | multi-user.target.wants
dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service | system
dirmngr.socket                           | sockets.target.wants
display-manager.service                  | system
getty@tty1.service                       | getty.target.wants
gpg-agent-browser.socket                 | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent-extra.socket                   | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent.socket                         | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent-ssh.socket                     | sockets.target.wants
NetworkManager.service                   | multi-user.target.wants
NetworkManager-wait-online.service       | network-online.target.wants
p11-kit-server.socket                    | sockets.target.wants
pipewire.socket                          | sockets.target.wants
pulseaudio.socket                        | sockets.target.wants
remote-fs.target                         | multi-user.target.wants
snapd.socket                             | sockets.target.wants
var-lib-snapd-snap-core18-2074.mount     | multi-user.target.wants
var-lib-snapd-snap-core18-2128.mount     | multi-user.target.wants
var-lib-snapd-snap-core20-1081.mount     | multi-user.target.wants
var-lib-snapd-snap-gnome\x2d3\x2d28\x2d1804-161.mount | multi-user.target.wants
var-lib-snapd-snap-gtk\x2dcommon\x2dthemes-1515.mount | multi-user.target.wants
var-lib-snapd-snap-kde\x2dframeworks\x2d5\x2dqt\x2d5\x2d15\x2dcore20-14.mount | multi-user.target.wants
var-lib-snapd-snap-snapd-12704.mount     | multi-user.target.wants
xdg-user-dirs-update.service             | default.target.wants

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#4 2021-08-17 13:21:07

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

seth wrote:

There's only NM, so that doesn't explain it - we'll have to look at the system journal

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io

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#5 2021-08-17 14:06:02

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
http://ix.io/3wgg

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#6 2021-08-17 14:07:45

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

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#7 2021-08-17 14:09:15

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

You click the link, there's the text.

Please edit your post and either delete the log or wrap it in code tags. This is not optional.

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#8 2021-08-17 15:00:24

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

Is the journal supposed to cover the netowork issues?
(Do/did the occur during the current boot, starting Aug 17 17:00:02)

You're ultimately

Aug 17 17:00:26 leno-E31 NetworkManager[334]: <info>  [1629208826.1123] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_GLOBAL

and the journal ends ~4 minutes later w/o any connection losses.

You can select the previous boot ("sudo journalctl -b -1") if you rebooted after the problem happened (and select earlier boots by growing the last digit)

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#9 2021-08-17 16:59:06

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

seth wrote:

Is the journal supposed to cover the netowork issues?
(Do/did the occur during the current boot, starting Aug 17 17:00:02)

You're ultimately

Aug 17 17:00:26 leno-E31 NetworkManager[334]: <info>  [1629208826.1123] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_GLOBAL

and the journal ends ~4 minutes later w/o any connection losses.

You can select the previous boot ("sudo journalctl -b -1") if you rebooted after the problem happened (and select earlier boots by growing the last digit)

i rebooted so many times i dont know when it started but i am on the same boot as this journal is now the problem persists boots
one boot before:
http://ix.io/3wh8

2 boots before:
http://ix.io/3wh9

3 boots before:
http://ix.io/3wha

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#10 2021-08-17 21:55:29

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

http://ix.io/3wh9 seems to include some desperate attempts to bring the network up again, but there's no connection loss.
However, the overall signal strength is low - are you far away from the access point? (wifi router)

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#11 2021-08-17 22:35:31

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

yes my router is behind a thin wall the signal strength is weak but i have never had problems with it on linux mint and windows only on kde plasma 5 desktop environment gave me problems weirdly

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#12 2021-08-17 22:52:22

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

Can you move over into the other room and check whether the signal is the (only) problem?
If so, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Networ … _interface - what's the txpower?
Also try to pass "ath10k_core.skip_otp=1" to the kernel commandline, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel_parameters

only on kde plasma 5 desktop environment

Wait what? You mean if you eg. run an openbox session you do not have those network issues?

network manager shows i have 0bit/s up and downstream i am still able to access the web although almost everything else seems to not work (for ex konsole & pacman -S)

Sanity check:
* keep a konsole open
* when the issue emerges test

wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.frankfurt.linode.com/100MB-frankfurt.bin

* try to run a konsole instance (or kwrite or anything that gives you trouble) from the interactive shell and see what happens.

Again: the signal is weak, but there's no apparent network issue in the journal - we might face a problem completely unrelated to your wifi connection.

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#13 2021-08-18 00:03:57

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

I had an issue of my laptop dropping packets and it was related to power settings. Following this post helped fix things:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p1690417

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#14 2021-08-18 10:09:13

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

Wait what? You mean if you eg. run an openbox session you do not have those network issues?

distros which ran kde plasma 5 for example ferrenOS Manjaro and OpenSuse also had this internet issue

cant run the command didn't install wget on my system

* try to run a konsole instance (or kwrite or anything that gives you trouble) from the interactive shell and see what happens.

pacman wont work for me and couldn't find a direct download from website

Also try to pass "ath10k_core.skip_otp=1" to the kernel commandline

didn't work so i instead did "ath10k_core skip_opt=1" is it alright?

network manager applet: https://imgur.com/a/g90EIPv

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#15 2021-08-18 12:53:56

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

cant run the command didn't install wget on my system

curl http://speedtest.frankfurt.linode.com/100MB-frankfurt.bin > /dev/null

pacman wont work for me and couldn't find a direct download from website

Direct download of what?
Afaiu your initial post, konsole "does not work" when this happens?
We need to know why it "does not work".
Or was "konsole & pacman -S" supposed to mean that running pacman inside konsole "does not work" (ie. this is a -limited- network issue)

Please post the complete output of the failing pacman command.

didn't work so i instead did "ath10k_core skip_opt=1" is it alright?

How did it "not work"? => https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855
The posted syntax would be appropriate for modprobe.conf, but not the kernel command line.

You're connected to the "Bar Orion" AP w/ poor signal quality and there's no traffic on the NIC - in and by itself that is insignificant.

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#16 2021-08-18 15:26:51

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

curl http://speedtest.frankfurt.linode.com/1 … nkfurt.bin > /dev/null

curl http://speedtest.frankfurt.linode.com/1 … nkfurt.bin > /dev/null
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100  100M  100  100M    0     0  4833k      0  0:00:21  0:00:21 --:--:-- 2112k

failed pacman:
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from archmirror.it : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from archlinux.uk.mirror.allworldit.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from arch.jensgutermuth.de : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.osbeck.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from europe.mirror.pkgbuild.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.pkgbuild.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.f4st.host : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.pseudoform.org : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.telepoint.bg : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from [url=ftp://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de]ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de[/url] : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.chaoticum.net : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from [url=ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se]ftp.acc.umu.se[/url] : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from arch.mirror.constant.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from archlinux.thaller.ws : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirrors.neusoft.edu.cn : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from america.mirror.pkgbuild.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from asia.mirror.pkgbuild.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from arch.mirror.square-r00t.net : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.lty.me : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'linux-headers-5.13.9.arch1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from archlinux.za.mirror.allworldit.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
warning: failed to retrieve some files
error: failed to commit transaction (failed to retrieve some files)
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

what bbcode makes this whole thing a slider to scroll thorugh?

when i try to insert the kernel parameter
sudo modprobe ath10k_core.skip_otp=1
modprobe: FATAL: Module ath10k_core.skip_otp=1 not found in directory /lib/modules/5.13.9-arch1-1
by the syntax it should be modprobe [thingie] [parameter]

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#17 2021-08-18 15:30:20

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

what bbcode makes this whole thing a slider to scroll thorugh?

the "code" one.
Please edit your post.

You get 404's because the local database is out of sync.

sudo pacman -Syu linux-headers

This will update the database, all packages and install linux-headers.

Please familiarize yourself w/ the pacman basics, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pacman

Edit:

when i try to insert the kernel parameter

sudo modprobe ath10k_core.skip_otp=1

Yes, as mentioned: the syntax w/ the dot is for the kernel commandline.

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#18 2021-08-18 15:47:04

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

it seems my internet connection is fine and network manager just pissed itself in the pants with that reading after i realized it was a 404 error i chekced my internet speeds with
curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sivel … eedtest.py | python -
and got

Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Testing from Bezeq International (84.108.42.19)...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Selecting best server based on ping...
Hosted by Pelephone Communications (Ashkelon) [0.31 km]: 29.104 ms
Testing download speed................................................................................
Download: 76.54 Mbit/s
Testing upload speed......................................................................................................
Upload: 8.42 Mbit/s

sorry for wasting your time sad should have diagnosed it more myself before asking the forums
doesn't explain why i had this issue in other distro's

edit: turns out it is a pacman package and somehow it didnt install before but now does

sudo pacman -S linux-headers
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (2) pahole-1.21-1  linux-headers-5.13.10.arch1-1

Total Download Size:    23.62 MiB
Total Installed Size:  131.43 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
:: Retrieving packages...
 linux-headers-5.13.10.arch1-1-x86_64   23.6 MiB  5.30 MiB/s 00:04 [####################################] 100%
(2/2) checking keys in keyring                                     [####################################] 100%
(2/2) checking package integrity                                   [####################################] 100%
(2/2) loading package files                                        [####################################] 100%
(2/2) checking for file conflicts                                  [####################################] 100%
(2/2) checking available disk space                                [####################################] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/2) installing pahole                                            [####################################] 100%
(2/2) installing linux-headers                                     [####################################] 100%
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/3) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
(2/3) Updating module dependencies...
(3/3) Install DKMS modules
==> dkms install --no-depmod -m rts5139 -v 1.05 -k 5.13.10-arch1-1
==> depmod 5.13.10-arch1-1

it seems like the problem has been sorted somehow

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#19 2021-08-18 16:36:12

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Re: NetworkManager wireless speed throttling and halting issue (solved)

It didn't before because your local database was dated.
It's now synced and you're fetching the current package.

Make absolutly sure that after syncing the database (pacman -Sy) you ran a full upgrade (pacman -Su or pacman -Syu) - otherwise you're conducting partial upgrades that will cause ou random unpredicted problems.

Please always remember to mark resolved threads by editing your initial posts subject - so others will know that there's no task left, but maybe a solution to find.
Thanks.

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