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#26 2022-01-25 18:36:18

shaked
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Re: wifi and ethrnet extreme speed throttling

seth wrote:

Yes. It's your ISPs routing (though I can actually reach the co.il on 147.235.244.6 now at 534KB/s)
I'm pretty sure there's no actual problem w/ your WLAN or linux or any problem on your side.

why does my downloads work on windows 10 flawlessly but not on arch (and WSL) though? my knowledge about how networks work is approaching zero how did you rule it out?

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#27 2022-01-25 20:20:25

-thc
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Re: wifi and ethrnet extreme speed throttling

Okay. Let's start over.

What kind of network cards (ethernet/wifi) are present:

lspci

Which drivers are loaded for those cards?
https://www.xmodulo.com/network-card-dr … linux.html

Additionally "lshw" shows you the actual connection speed for ethernet devices.

This is happening on both wifi and ethernet?

What kind of network management did you choose for your install?

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#28 2022-01-25 21:19:49

seth
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Re: wifi and ethrnet extreme speed throttling

shaked wrote:

why does my downloads work on windows 10 flawlessly but not on arch (and WSL) though?

Because according to https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 2#p2018082 it doesn't?
And also because the wget of bezeq.co.il has a very decent 18.7 MBit/s (what is good for the little data transferred)

This is not about *how* you download stuff, but from where.

When you want a file from server A you don't get it from a point-to-point connection.
You send a package addressed for server A and your router figures where to send it next (your ISP) your ISP then figures where to send it and on and on and after 14 hops it finally reaches its destination.

This travel isn't much different from how you travel and not all ways are equally fast: You can go from Israel to the USA w/ a nonstop flight or you take a train to China, from there a ship to Africa, then ride a horse through Afrika, take the ferry to Europe, from Europe a flight to Australia and from Australia a ship to the USA. Why would anyone be so stupid to do the latter?
Money.
When your ISP wants to route traffic through networks that it doesn't own, it has to pay for that and it can be cheaper to send the package across the planet and some pretty shady tubes than to use the overnight express.

Then there are content delivery networks and caches everywhere that skew the behavior.
Server A can tell you to get the data from server B (because that's gonna be much faster) and while http proxy caches don't work w/ https, you still have a local cache, ie. when you open a webpage, your browser doesn't have to download most of the stuff when you open the page every day and much of the data are the same images, scripts, …

tl;dr: if you want to *know* whether the bottleneck is your ISP, try downloads in the LAN (I think I mentioned that a couple of times) - otherwise every bit of data you've provided points to your ISP having a poor connection to several other network segments and that also fits w/ my own findings, because I don't get even 600kB/s from bezeq.co.il - what is ludicrous and not something I experience with any other network I've tried.

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