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#1 2022-02-24 01:29:19

ArchMainnia
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Issues with opening apps after installing

First of all I'm new here so I hope I do this correctly

Iv tried this on multiple installs
It started with the new version of arch that was released,I updated my old system and I could not open any apps from gui or terminal when I try to launch from terminal it just gets hung i only have 2 apps installed so far on my new install and both are doing this steam and Firefox when I reboot it works tell I open more then one app

I'm on the latest update
De is kde
I used install script on the new install but old one was done the manual way

Machine specs
Asus G15 advantage edition
5900hs with integrated graphics
6800m

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#2 2022-02-24 01:31:57

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

Steam actually gives me a little bit of output witch is

Running steam on arch rolling 64-biy
Steam-runtime is enabled automatically
Steam runtime is up to date!
Steam clients requirements are satisfied
Max open descriptors set to 9216


No more after thay just get stuck there

I open Firefox then when steam opens everything closes

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#3 2022-02-24 08:16:29

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

Welcome to the forum @ArchMainnia!

It's a little hard to understand properly what you have done so far, so please correct me if I get this wrong:

  1. You had a machine with Arch already installed

  2. You then booted from a freshly downloaded Arch installation image

  3. You then ran an installation script to update the old Arch install

If this is right, I would recommend you start over, using the proper Installation guide, because it's going to be hard to help you without knowing what the installation script did. Also, if you go slow and take it easy, then the Arch installation guide is quite good, and not so hard to follow - and you will get much better control over your computer.

If, on the other hand, I'm wrong, and you went about it differently, then it would be much easier to help if you could provide some more detail on what exactly has been done to your computer smile

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#4 2022-02-24 22:28:34

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

This is incorrect

i had arch installed
i updated arch using sudo pacman -Syu
it started to give me issues and i could not open any apps  so i reinstalled thinking that i did something wrong'
the brand new install of arch did the same issue after installing steam and firefox

i would open firefox normaly then when steam openes firefox and steam would close instantly

sorry about the miscommunication

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#5 2022-02-25 00:20:18

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

That sounds like transient hostname issues, what's your output of

hostnamectl
sudo journalctl -b

when this happens? https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_o … n_services

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#6 2022-02-25 02:46:14

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

hoastnamectl: https://pastebin.com/77MZ8anm
sudo journalctl -b: https://pastebin.com/8nrp2TkY

i hope that helps

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#7 2022-02-25 02:56:16

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

Something went wrong with the journalctl output,  there is only 27 lines of it.  The rest of the journal is missing.
Edit:
Please post the output of

find /etc/systemd -name \*.service -type l -a -xtype f -printf %f\\n

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#8 2022-02-25 03:03:16

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

pipewire-session-manager.service
pipewire-media-session.service
xdg-user-dirs-update.service
dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service
getty@tty1.service
systemd-networkd.service
systemd-resolved.service
dbus-org.freedesktop.network1.service
systemd-networkd-wait-online.service
display-manager.service
dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service
systemd-timesyncd.service
systemd-network-generator.service

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#9 2022-02-25 03:08:06

ArchMainnia
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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

there is a lot more when i hold enter how would i copy it all at once?

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#10 2022-02-25 03:17:45

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

here is a full one
i rebooted and opened firefox then discord and firefox closed and discord never opened

https://pastebin.com/BrvG5n1b

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#11 2022-02-25 04:41:28

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

ArchMainnia wrote:

there is a lot more when i hold enter how would i copy it all at once?

See the link V1del provided in post #5.

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#12 2022-02-26 02:40:45

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

loqs wrote:
ArchMainnia wrote:

there is a lot more when i hold enter how would i copy it all at once?

See the link V1del provided in post #5.


https://gist.github.com/ArchCandy/d9699 … f0199a09ef
that work for you?

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#13 2022-02-26 04:17:58

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

Still truncated, try:

sudo journalctl -b |& curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io

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#14 2022-02-26 05:16:19

ArchMainnia
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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

loqs wrote:

Still truncated, try:

sudo journalctl -b |& curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io

http://ix.io/3QMf

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#15 2022-02-26 07:37:09

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

You seem to be running plasma on wayland and

Feb 26 05:10:39 arch kernel: amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: [drm] Cannot find any crtc or sizes
Feb 26 05:10:39 arch pulseaudio[1907]: X11 I/O error handler called
Feb 26 05:10:39 arch pulseaudio[1907]: X11 I/O error exit handler called, preparing to tear down X11 modules

smells pulseaudio/xwayland related.

=> Does plasma on X11 work as expected?

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#16 2022-02-26 15:41:04

ArchMainnia
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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

seth wrote:

You seem to be running plasma on wayland and

Feb 26 05:10:39 arch kernel: amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: [drm] Cannot find any crtc or sizes
Feb 26 05:10:39 arch pulseaudio[1907]: X11 I/O error handler called
Feb 26 05:10:39 arch pulseaudio[1907]: X11 I/O error exit handler called, preparing to tear down X11 modules

smells pulseaudio/xwayland related.

=> Does plasma on X11 work as expected?



Iv not had any issues with plasma on x11 except the apps closing since this new update it was running perfect  for about a year should I try reinstalling without pulseaudio?

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#17 2022-02-26 16:15:07

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

You are currently NOT running plasma on X11 but on wayland… so maybe try whether it still works as expected on X11.
You'll probably not be able to install plasma w/o PA.

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#18 2022-02-26 16:25:18

ArchMainnia
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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

seth wrote:

You are currently NOT running plasma on X11 but on wayland… so maybe try whether it still works as expected on X11.
You'll probably not be able to install plasma w/o PA.

Ok I will try switching them when I get home top left Connor right?

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#19 2022-02-26 16:28:12

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

Assuming you're asking whether the session selection feature of your DM is on the top left corner: i've no idea. It's themeable and also I don't use SDDM.

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#20 2022-02-26 16:28:38

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

seth wrote:

You are currently NOT running plasma on X11 but on wayland… so maybe try whether it still works as expected on X11.
You'll probably not be able to install plasma w/o PA.

Discord and Firefox auto opened and evreything works how do I fix wayland tho?

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#21 2022-02-26 17:02:32

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Re: Issues with opening apps after installing

You probably don't.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/KDE#Starting_Plasma
Did you see the note?

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