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0xdex

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Registered: 2022-03-30

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[SOLVED] Boot loop with kernel 5.17 on ASUS ROG Flow X13

Hello!

Since the 5.17 release, I'm unable to use the latest kernel version on Arch.

We are now at linux 5.17.5.arch1-1 and I'm still experiencing boot loops when I try using that version.

Unfortunately, going back to 5.16 led to boot loops too so I had to install 5.15 LTS and it's causing me a lot of problems.

Could someone direct me to the proper documentation? Debugging kernel issues is not my forte and I'd like to know how to get involved to help diagnose and fix this problem.

Thanks!

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Here's my installed packages in case it's useful to somebody:

~ > pacman -Q | grep linux
archlinux-appstream-data 20220422-1
archlinux-keyring 20220424-1
lib32-util-linux 2.38-1
linux 5.17.5.arch1-1
linux-api-headers 5.16.8-1
linux-firmware 20220411.705f19a-1
linux-firmware-whence 20220411.705f19a-1
linux-lts 5.15.36-1
util-linux 2.38-1
util-linux-libs 2.38-1

Last edited by 0xdex (2022-05-17 04:50:42)

Slithery

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Registered: 2013-12-01

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Re: [SOLVED] Boot loop with kernel 5.17 on ASUS ROG Flow X13

'It doesn't work' isn't an error message.

Please read...
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855

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borisbsc

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Registered: 2013-04-19

Posts: 29

Re: [SOLVED] Boot loop with kernel 5.17 on ASUS ROG Flow X13

It's a problem with the latest BIOS. Search the internet for a BIOS downgrade to version 407 (maybe 408 works as well), just make sure to find by the *exact* model number as there are different revisions out there (QE, QC, QH, ...). A kernel downgrade to 5.15 also works, but the downside is that you lose the awesome Zen3 optimizations that were implemented in newer kernels (for me with a 5800HS it was a 20% perf. difference).

0xdex

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Registered: 2022-03-30

Posts: 5

Re: [SOLVED] Boot loop with kernel 5.17 on ASUS ROG Flow X13

Ouch! I never would've thought.

I updated the BIOS when upgrading to 5.17 in preparations to see if it would help with the compatibility of amd_pstate requirements. Now I understand why downgrading to 5.16+ or using any recent Arch ISO to boot also didn't work

For what it's worth, I found some guides related to debugging Kernel issues elsewhere, but I haven't had time to deep dive, document and report back.

I'll look into this BIOS situation and see if I can get involved somehow.

Thanks a lot for the reply!

Last edited by 0xdex (2022-05-16 21:12:51)

0xdex

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Registered: 2022-03-30

Posts: 5

Re: [SOLVED] Boot loop with kernel 5.17 on ASUS ROG Flow X13

I found a claim here that 4.10 solves the problem with recent Kernels:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1398613 … n-live-usb

I should have time to perform the downgrade/upgrade tests tonight. I'll report back once I can.

0xdex

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Registered: 2022-03-30

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Re: [SOLVED] Boot loop with kernel 5.17 on ASUS ROG Flow X13

It's a problem with the latest BIOS. Search the internet for a BIOS downgrade to version 407 (maybe 408 works as well), just make sure to find by the *exact* model number as there are different revisions out there (QE, QC, QH, ...). A kernel downgrade to 5.15 also works, but the downside is that you lose the awesome Zen3 optimizations that were implemented in newer kernels (for me with a 5800HS it was a 20% perf. difference).

You sir have made my day and I can't give enough praise that you took the time to reply to this old post!

Upgrading to BIOS 410 fixed the issue. I'm writing this from 5.17.7.arch1-1 and my system is super snappy again

I'll still need to focus on learning more about Kernel debugging, etc, as I'm likely to break it again soon, but this time it will be intentional XD

2ManyDogs

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Re: [SOLVED] Boot loop with kernel 5.17 on ASUS ROG Flow X13

Please remember to mark your thread [SOLVED] (edit the title of your first post).

0xdex

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Re: [SOLVED] Boot loop with kernel 5.17 on ASUS ROG Flow X13

Please remember to mark your thread [SOLVED] (edit the title of your first post).

Done!

Thank you for the tip. I searched every pixel of the page twice earlier to find where to edit the title and figured we couldn't change them XD