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#1 2022-06-19 20:31:42

860lacov
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Registered: 2020-05-02
Posts: 476

Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

Till some time ago, I didn't have any problems with VirtualBox (except blurry interface in KDE Plasma on Wayland and HiDPI screen).
I started to jump from kde to gnome and decided that I'll stay with plasma.

I use btrfs as a "backup" for unwanted system changes. After restoration of clean Arch install, I've installed fresh KDE Plasma.
I don't know what happened but I cant run VirtualBox machines.

I tested OVA image from kali homepage, and I tried to create new VM.
In both cases when I try to run a VM i have a popup windows with information "Starting virtual machine window". It takes forever and machine doesn't start.

I tried from GUI and with vboxmanage command.
Don't know what happenede

grep --color vmx /proc/cpuinfo
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l2 invpcid_single cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb intel_pt avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves split_lock_detect dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_pkg_req avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid movdiri movdir64b fsrm avx512_vp2intersect md_clear ibt flush_l1d arch_capabilities
vmx flags       : vnmi preemption_timer posted_intr invvpid ept_x_only ept_ad ept_1gb flexpriority apicv tsc_offset vtpr mtf vapic ept vpid unrestricted_guest vapic_reg vid ple pml ept_mode_based_exec tsc_scaling
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l2 invpcid_single cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb intel_pt avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves split_lock_detect dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_pkg_req avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid movdiri movdir64b fsrm avx512_vp2intersect md_clear ibt flush_l1d arch_capabilities
vmx flags       : vnmi preemption_timer posted_intr invvpid ept_x_only ept_ad ept_1gb flexpriority apicv tsc_offset vtpr mtf vapic ept vpid unrestricted_guest vapic_reg vid ple pml ept_mode_based_exec tsc_scaling
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l2 invpcid_single cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb intel_pt avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves split_lock_detect dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_pkg_req avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid movdiri movdir64b fsrm avx512_vp2intersect md_clear ibt flush_l1d arch_capabilities
vmx flags       : vnmi preemption_timer posted_intr invvpid ept_x_only ept_ad ept_1gb flexpriority apicv tsc_offset vtpr mtf vapic ept vpid unrestricted_guest vapic_reg vid ple pml ept_mode_based_exec tsc_scaling
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l2 invpcid_single cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb intel_pt avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves split_lock_detect dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_pkg_req avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid movdiri movdir64b fsrm avx512_vp2intersect md_clear ibt flush_l1d arch_capabilities
vmx flags       : vnmi preemption_timer posted_intr invvpid ept_x_only ept_ad ept_1gb flexpriority apicv tsc_offset vtpr mtf vapic ept vpid unrestricted_guest vapic_reg vid ple pml ept_mode_based_exec tsc_scaling
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l2 invpcid_single cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb intel_pt avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves split_lock_detect dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_pkg_req avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid movdiri movdir64b fsrm avx512_vp2intersect md_clear ibt flush_l1d arch_capabilities
vmx flags       : vnmi preemption_timer posted_intr invvpid ept_x_only ept_ad ept_1gb flexpriority apicv tsc_offset vtpr mtf vapic ept vpid unrestricted_guest vapic_reg vid ple pml ept_mode_based_exec tsc_scaling
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l2 invpcid_single cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb intel_pt avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves split_lock_detect dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_pkg_req avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid movdiri movdir64b fsrm avx512_vp2intersect md_clear ibt flush_l1d arch_capabilities
vmx flags       : vnmi preemption_timer posted_intr invvpid ept_x_only ept_ad ept_1gb flexpriority apicv tsc_offset vtpr mtf vapic ept vpid unrestricted_guest vapic_reg vid ple pml ept_mode_based_exec tsc_scaling
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l2 invpcid_single cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb intel_pt avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves split_lock_detect dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_pkg_req avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid movdiri movdir64b fsrm avx512_vp2intersect md_clear ibt flush_l1d arch_capabilities
vmx flags       : vnmi preemption_timer posted_intr invvpid ept_x_only ept_ad ept_1gb flexpriority apicv tsc_offset vtpr mtf vapic ept vpid unrestricted_guest vapic_reg vid ple pml ept_mode_based_exec tsc_scaling
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l2 invpcid_single cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb intel_pt avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves split_lock_detect dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_pkg_req avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid movdiri movdir64b fsrm avx512_vp2intersect md_clear ibt flush_l1d arch_capabilities
vmx flags       : vnmi preemption_timer posted_intr invvpid ept_x_only ept_ad ept_1gb flexpriority apicv tsc_offset vtpr mtf vapic ept vpid unrestricted_guest vapic_reg vid ple pml ept_mode_based_exec tsc_scaling
lscpu
Architektura:                x86_64
  Tryb(y) pracy CPU:         32-bit, 64-bit
  Rozmiary adresów:          39 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
  Kolejność bajtów:          Little Endian
CPU:                         8
  Lista aktywnych CPU:       0-7
ID producenta:               GenuineIntel
  Nazwa modelu:              11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Rodzina CPU:             6
    Model:                   140
    Wątków na rdzeń:         2
    Rdzeni na gniazdo:       4
    Gniazd:                  1
    Wersja:                  1
    Skalowanie MHz CPU:      19%
    CPU max MHz:             4700,0000
    CPU min MHz:             400,0000
    BogoMIPS:                5608.00
    Flagi:                   fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts
                              acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art 
                             arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_know
                             n_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdc
                             m pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdra
                             nd lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l2 invpcid_single cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs
                              ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc
                             _adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx
                             512ifma clflushopt clwb intel_pt avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec 
                             xgetbv1 xsaves split_lock_detect dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_win
                             dow hwp_epp hwp_pkg_req avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq
                              avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid movdiri movdir64b fsrm avx512_vp2
                             intersect md_clear ibt flush_l1d arch_capabilities
Właściwości wirtualizacji:   
  Wirtualizacja:             VT-x
Pamięci podręczne (w sumie): 
  L1d:                       192 KiB (4 instancje)
  L1i:                       128 KiB (4 instancje)
  L2:                        5 MiB (4 instancje)
  L3:                        12 MiB (1 instancja)
NUMA:                        
  Węzłów NUMA:               1
  Procesory węzła NUMA 0:    0-7
Podatności:                  
  Itlb multihit:             Not affected
  L1tf:                      Not affected
  Mds:                       Not affected
  Meltdown:                  Not affected
  Mmio stale data:           Not affected
  Spec store bypass:         Mitigation; Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Spectre v1:                Mitigation; usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Spectre v2:                Mitigation; Enhanced IBRS, IBPB conditional, RSB filling
  Srbds:                     Not affected
  Tsx async abort:           Not affected

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#2 2022-06-20 08:11:16

d_fajardo
Member
Registered: 2017-07-28
Posts: 1,652

Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

Have you checked your VM logs for any leads to the problem?
And what did you mean by:

I use btrfs as a "backup" for unwanted system changes.

Did you mean you tried to restore a snapshot?
This is also ambiguous:

After restoration of clean Arch install

As a fresh install is not a restoration I would think.

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#3 2022-06-20 14:14:46

Linux2Brain
Member
Registered: 2018-03-05
Posts: 23

Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

Hi,

I've got the same problem. It was working perfectly fine until the update to kernel 5.18.1.
This seems to be a nasty bug, starting the virtual machine syslog (journalctl -f) reports:

Jun 20 16:01:59 mylaptop NetworkManager[959]: <info>  [1655733719.8622] manager: (vboxnet0): new Ethernet device (/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/7)
Jun 20 16:01:59 mylaptop dhcpcd[956]: vboxnet0: waiting for carrier
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: SUPR0GipMap: fGetGipCpu=0x1b
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: traps: Missing ENDBR: 0xffffa00a43a01200
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: ------------[ cut here ]------------
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: kernel BUG at arch/x86/kernel/traps.c:252!
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] PREEMPT SMP NOPTI
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: CPU: 4 PID: 2602 Comm: EMT-0 Tainted: G           OE     5.18.5-arch1-1 #1 e9787f6018c114f5ea5c49a220d7535dfd3a932e
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: Hardware name: LENOVO 21A9003WGE/21A9003WGE, BIOS N38ET32W (1.13 ) 12/27/2021
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RIP: 0010:exc_control_protection+0xc2/0xd0
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: Code: 8b 93 80 00 00 00 be f9 00 00 00 48 c7 c7 13 de 66 aa e8 b1 d3 4f ff e9 72 ff ff ff 48 c7 c7 fa dd 66 aa e8 cb 21 fb ff 0f 0b <0f> 0b 66 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 90 66 0f 1f 00 55 53 48 89
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RSP: 0018:ffffa00a4388bb88 EFLAGS: 00010002
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RAX: 0000000000000028 RBX: ffffa00a4388bba8 RCX: 0000000000000000
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: ffff92023f5216a0 RDI: ffff92023f5216a0
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RBP: 0000000000000003 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: ffffa00a4388b9a8
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: R10: 0000000000000003 R11: ffffffffaaecaa08 R12: 0000000000000000
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: R13: 0000000000000000 R14: 0000000000000000 R15: 0000000000000000
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: FS:  00007f72865fc640(0000) GS:ffff92023f500000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: CR2: ffffa00a43a018c0 CR3: 00000001b9ed4001 CR4: 0000000000f70ee0
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: PKRU: 55555554
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: Call Trace:
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  <TASK>
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  asm_exc_control_protection+0x22/0x30
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RIP: 0010:0xffffa00a43a01200
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: Code: 81 e1 ff 7f 00 00 41 81 e0 ff 7f 00 00 48 8d 3d 36 2b 08 00 e8 2e 3e ef ff e9 ad fe ff ff 66 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 90 <55> 48 89 e5 41 54 53 83 fe 0f 0f 87 88 00 00 00 83 ce 10 c7 07 29
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RSP: 0018:ffffa00a4388bc58 EFLAGS: 00010246
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RAX: 0000000000000000 RBX: ffffa00a43ca8010 RCX: 0000000000000001
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: 0000000000000000 RDI: ffffa00a43ca8060
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RBP: ffffa00a4388bd30 R08: ffffa00a43a0b70c R09: ffff91fb07159180
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: R10: 0000000000000001 R11: 0000000000051000 R12: ffff91fb211395d0
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: R13: 0000000000000004 R14: ffff91fb211395d0 R15: ffffffffc05b9860
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? asm_exc_page_fault+0x22/0x30
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? supdrvIOCtl+0x2ef2/0x3270 [vboxdrv 00534338a43d95d446395d52bcd7c6ede152c578]
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? _copy_from_user+0x44/0x60
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? VBoxDrvLinuxIOCtl_6_1_34+0x15f/0x250 [vboxdrv 00534338a43d95d446395d52bcd7c6ede152c578]
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? __x64_sys_ioctl+0x8e/0xc0
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? do_syscall_64+0x5c/0x90
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? syscall_exit_to_user_mode+0x26/0x50
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? do_syscall_64+0x6b/0x90
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? syscall_exit_to_user_mode+0x26/0x50
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? do_syscall_64+0x6b/0x90
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? exc_page_fault+0x74/0x170
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  ? entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x44/0xae
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  </TASK>
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: Modules linked in: hidp rfcomm xt_conntrack xt_MASQUERADE nf_conntrack_netlink nfnetlink xt_addrtype iptable_filter iptable_nat nf_nat nf_conntrack nf_defrag_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv4 br_netfilter bridge snd_ctl_led snd_soc_skl_hda_dsp snd_soc_intel_hda_dsp_common snd_soc_hdac_hdmi snd_sof_probes cmac algif_hash 8021q garp algif_skcipher mrp snd_hda_codec_hdmi af_alg stp llc bnep snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_codec_generic snd_soc_dmic snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl snd_sof_intel_hda_common soundwire_intel soundwire_generic_allocation soundwire_cadence snd_sof_intel_hda snd_sof_pci snd_sof_xtensa_dsp snd_sof snd_sof_utils snd_soc_hdac_hda snd_hda_ext_core snd_soc_acpi_intel_match snd_soc_acpi soundwire_bus snd_soc_core iTCO_wdt spi_nor think_lmi vfat snd_compress intel_pmc_bxt mousedev hid_multitouch ee1004 fat iTCO_vendor_support mtd intel_tcc_cooling x86_pkg_temp_thermal mei_pxp mei_hdcp intel_powerclamp intel_rapl_msr iwlmvm firmware_attributes_class wmi_bmof coretemp ac97_bus
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  snd_pcm_dmaengine kvm_intel snd_hda_intel mac80211 snd_intel_dspcfg kvm libarc4 irqbypass snd_intel_sdw_acpi intel_cstate intel_uncore ax88179_178a snd_hda_codec uvcvideo psmouse btusb usbnet i2c_i801 pcspkr spi_intel_pci intel_lpss_pci e1000e videobuf2_vmalloc spi_intel i2c_smbus mii snd_hda_core i915 iwlwifi btrtl videobuf2_memops intel_lpss mei_me iwlmei btbcm idma64 videobuf2_v4l2 snd_usb_audio btintel btmtk videobuf2_common snd_usbmidi_lib cfg80211 snd_hwdep processor_thermal_device_pci_legacy videodev bluetooth snd_rawmidi processor_thermal_device snd_seq_device drm_buddy processor_thermal_rfim snd_pcm mc ucsi_acpi ttm processor_thermal_mbox ecdh_generic snd_timer tpm_crb joydev crc16 thinkpad_acpi processor_thermal_rapl typec_ucsi mei drm_dp_helper thunderbolt intel_rapl_common ledtrig_audio typec platform_profile intel_gtt intel_soc_dts_iosf rfkill roles i2c_hid_acpi wmi i2c_hid snd int3403_thermal soundcore tpm_tis int340x_thermal_zone intel_hid tpm_tis_core
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel:  int3400_thermal video mac_hid acpi_thermal_rel sparse_keymap acpi_tad acpi_pad vboxnetflt(OE) vboxnetadp(OE) vboxdrv(OE) ipmi_devintf ipmi_msghandler crypto_user fuse bpf_preload ip_tables x_tables btrfs blake2b_generic libcrc32c crc32c_generic xor raid6_pq usbhid dm_crypt cbc encrypted_keys trusted asn1_encoder tee tpm rng_core dm_mod rtsx_pci_sdmmc serio_raw mmc_core atkbd crct10dif_pclmul crc32_pclmul libps2 crc32c_intel vivaldi_fmap ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel nvme crypto_simd xhci_pci cryptd nvme_core rtsx_pci xhci_pci_renesas i8042 serio
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: ---[ end trace 0000000000000000 ]---
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RIP: 0010:exc_control_protection+0xc2/0xd0
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: Code: 8b 93 80 00 00 00 be f9 00 00 00 48 c7 c7 13 de 66 aa e8 b1 d3 4f ff e9 72 ff ff ff 48 c7 c7 fa dd 66 aa e8 cb 21 fb ff 0f 0b <0f> 0b 66 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 90 66 0f 1f 00 55 53 48 89
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RSP: 0018:ffffa00a4388bb88 EFLAGS: 00010002
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RAX: 0000000000000028 RBX: ffffa00a4388bba8 RCX: 0000000000000000
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: ffff92023f5216a0 RDI: ffff92023f5216a0
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: RBP: 0000000000000003 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: ffffa00a4388b9a8
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: R10: 0000000000000003 R11: ffffffffaaecaa08 R12: 0000000000000000
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: R13: 0000000000000000 R14: 0000000000000000 R15: 0000000000000000
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: FS:  00007f72865fc640(0000) GS:ffff92023f500000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: CR2: ffffa00a43a018c0 CR3: 00000001b9ed4001 CR4: 0000000000f70ee0
Jun 20 16:02:05 mylaptop kernel: PKRU: 55555554

dmesg:

  155.355441] SUPR0GipMap: fGetGipCpu=0x1b
[  156.036363] traps: Missing ENDBR: 0xffffa00a43a01200
[  156.036371] ------------[ cut here ]------------
[  156.036372] kernel BUG at arch/x86/kernel/traps.c:252!
[  156.036377] invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] PREEMPT SMP NOPTI
[  156.036380] CPU: 4 PID: 2602 Comm: EMT-0 Tainted: G           OE     5.18.5-arch1-1 #1 e9787f6018c114f5ea5c49a220d7535dfd3a932e
[  156.036383] Hardware name: LENOVO 21A9003WGE/21A9003WGE, BIOS N38ET32W (1.13 ) 12/27/2021
[  156.036384] RIP: 0010:exc_control_protection+0xc2/0xd0
[  156.036389] Code: 8b 93 80 00 00 00 be f9 00 00 00 48 c7 c7 13 de 66 aa e8 b1 d3 4f ff e9 72 ff ff ff 48 c7 c7 fa dd 66 aa e8 cb 21 fb ff 0f 0b <0f> 0b 66 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 90 66 0f 1f 00 55 53 48 89
[  156.036390] RSP: 0018:ffffa00a4388bb88 EFLAGS: 00010002
[  156.036392] RAX: 0000000000000028 RBX: ffffa00a4388bba8 RCX: 0000000000000000
[  156.036394] RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: ffff92023f5216a0 RDI: ffff92023f5216a0
[  156.036395] RBP: 0000000000000003 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: ffffa00a4388b9a8
[  156.036396] R10: 0000000000000003 R11: ffffffffaaecaa08 R12: 0000000000000000
[  156.036397] R13: 0000000000000000 R14: 0000000000000000 R15: 0000000000000000
[  156.036398] FS:  00007f72865fc640(0000) GS:ffff92023f500000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
[  156.036399] CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033
[  156.036400] CR2: ffffa00a43a018c0 CR3: 00000001b9ed4001 CR4: 0000000000f70ee0
[  156.036401] PKRU: 55555554
[  156.036402] Call Trace:
[  156.036405]  <TASK>
[  156.036407]  asm_exc_control_protection+0x22/0x30
[  156.036409] RIP: 0010:0xffffa00a43a01200
[  156.036411] Code: 81 e1 ff 7f 00 00 41 81 e0 ff 7f 00 00 48 8d 3d 36 2b 08 00 e8 2e 3e ef ff e9 ad fe ff ff 66 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 90 <55> 48 89 e5 41 54 53 83 fe 0f 0f 87 88 00 00 00 83 ce 10 c7 07 29
[  156.036412] RSP: 0018:ffffa00a4388bc58 EFLAGS: 00010246
[  156.036413] RAX: 0000000000000000 RBX: ffffa00a43ca8010 RCX: 0000000000000001
[  156.036414] RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: 0000000000000000 RDI: ffffa00a43ca8060
[  156.036415] RBP: ffffa00a4388bd30 R08: ffffa00a43a0b70c R09: ffff91fb07159180
[  156.036415] R10: 0000000000000001 R11: 0000000000051000 R12: ffff91fb211395d0
[  156.036416] R13: 0000000000000004 R14: ffff91fb211395d0 R15: ffffffffc05b9860
[  156.036419]  ? asm_exc_page_fault+0x22/0x30
[  156.036422]  ? supdrvIOCtl+0x2ef2/0x3270 [vboxdrv 00534338a43d95d446395d52bcd7c6ede152c578]
[  156.036440]  ? _copy_from_user+0x44/0x60
[  156.036443]  ? VBoxDrvLinuxIOCtl_6_1_34+0x15f/0x250 [vboxdrv 00534338a43d95d446395d52bcd7c6ede152c578]
[  156.036451]  ? __x64_sys_ioctl+0x8e/0xc0
[  156.036454]  ? do_syscall_64+0x5c/0x90
[  156.036456]  ? syscall_exit_to_user_mode+0x26/0x50
[  156.036458]  ? do_syscall_64+0x6b/0x90
[  156.036460]  ? syscall_exit_to_user_mode+0x26/0x50
[  156.036461]  ? do_syscall_64+0x6b/0x90
[  156.036462]  ? exc_page_fault+0x74/0x170
[  156.036464]  ? entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x44/0xae
[  156.036466]  </TASK>
[  156.036467] Modules linked in: hidp rfcomm xt_conntrack xt_MASQUERADE nf_conntrack_netlink nfnetlink xt_addrtype iptable_filter iptable_nat nf_nat nf_conntrack nf_defrag_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv4 br_netfilter bridge snd_ctl_led snd_soc_skl_hda_dsp snd_soc_intel_hda_dsp_common snd_soc_hdac_hdmi snd_sof_probes cmac algif_hash 8021q garp algif_skcipher mrp snd_hda_codec_hdmi af_alg stp llc bnep snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_codec_generic snd_soc_dmic snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl snd_sof_intel_hda_common soundwire_intel soundwire_generic_allocation soundwire_cadence snd_sof_intel_hda snd_sof_pci snd_sof_xtensa_dsp snd_sof snd_sof_utils snd_soc_hdac_hda snd_hda_ext_core snd_soc_acpi_intel_match snd_soc_acpi soundwire_bus snd_soc_core iTCO_wdt spi_nor think_lmi vfat snd_compress intel_pmc_bxt mousedev hid_multitouch ee1004 fat iTCO_vendor_support mtd intel_tcc_cooling x86_pkg_temp_thermal mei_pxp mei_hdcp intel_powerclamp intel_rapl_msr iwlmvm firmware_attributes_class wmi_bmof coretemp ac97_bus
[  156.036503]  snd_pcm_dmaengine kvm_intel snd_hda_intel mac80211 snd_intel_dspcfg kvm libarc4 irqbypass snd_intel_sdw_acpi intel_cstate intel_uncore ax88179_178a snd_hda_codec uvcvideo psmouse btusb usbnet i2c_i801 pcspkr spi_intel_pci intel_lpss_pci e1000e videobuf2_vmalloc spi_intel i2c_smbus mii snd_hda_core i915 iwlwifi btrtl videobuf2_memops intel_lpss mei_me iwlmei btbcm idma64 videobuf2_v4l2 snd_usb_audio btintel btmtk videobuf2_common snd_usbmidi_lib cfg80211 snd_hwdep processor_thermal_device_pci_legacy videodev bluetooth snd_rawmidi processor_thermal_device snd_seq_device drm_buddy processor_thermal_rfim snd_pcm mc ucsi_acpi ttm processor_thermal_mbox ecdh_generic snd_timer tpm_crb joydev crc16 thinkpad_acpi processor_thermal_rapl typec_ucsi mei drm_dp_helper thunderbolt intel_rapl_common ledtrig_audio typec platform_profile intel_gtt intel_soc_dts_iosf rfkill roles i2c_hid_acpi wmi i2c_hid snd int3403_thermal soundcore tpm_tis int340x_thermal_zone intel_hid tpm_tis_core
[  156.036544]  int3400_thermal video mac_hid acpi_thermal_rel sparse_keymap acpi_tad acpi_pad vboxnetflt(OE) vboxnetadp(OE) vboxdrv(OE) ipmi_devintf ipmi_msghandler crypto_user fuse bpf_preload ip_tables x_tables btrfs blake2b_generic libcrc32c crc32c_generic xor raid6_pq usbhid dm_crypt cbc encrypted_keys trusted asn1_encoder tee tpm rng_core dm_mod rtsx_pci_sdmmc serio_raw mmc_core atkbd crct10dif_pclmul crc32_pclmul libps2 crc32c_intel vivaldi_fmap ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel nvme crypto_simd xhci_pci cryptd nvme_core rtsx_pci xhci_pci_renesas i8042 serio
[  156.036569] ---[ end trace 0000000000000000 ]---
[  156.036570] RIP: 0010:exc_control_protection+0xc2/0xd0
[  156.036572] Code: 8b 93 80 00 00 00 be f9 00 00 00 48 c7 c7 13 de 66 aa e8 b1 d3 4f ff e9 72 ff ff ff 48 c7 c7 fa dd 66 aa e8 cb 21 fb ff 0f 0b <0f> 0b 66 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 90 66 0f 1f 00 55 53 48 89
[  156.036573] RSP: 0018:ffffa00a4388bb88 EFLAGS: 00010002
[  156.036574] RAX: 0000000000000028 RBX: ffffa00a4388bba8 RCX: 0000000000000000
[  156.036575] RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: ffff92023f5216a0 RDI: ffff92023f5216a0
[  156.036577] RBP: 0000000000000003 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: ffffa00a4388b9a8
[  156.036578] R10: 0000000000000003 R11: ffffffffaaecaa08 R12: 0000000000000000
[  156.036578] R13: 0000000000000000 R14: 0000000000000000 R15: 0000000000000000
[  156.036579] FS:  00007f72865fc640(0000) GS:ffff92023f500000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
[  156.036580] CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033
[  156.036581] CR2: ffffa00a43a018c0 CR3: 00000001b9ed4001 CR4: 0000000000f70ee0
[  156.036582] PKRU: 55555554
Kernel : Linux mylaptop 5.18.5-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu, 16 Jun 2022 20:40:45 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
VirtualBox version: 6.1.34 r150636

I didn't change anything, it just stopped working with the recent kernel versions.

[  156.036372] kernel BUG at arch/x86/kernel/traps.c:252!

Last edited by Linux2Brain (2022-06-20 14:21:02)

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#4 2022-06-20 14:25:31

860lacov
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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

d_fajardo wrote:

Have you checked your VM logs for any leads to the problem?
And what did you mean by:

I use btrfs as a "backup" for unwanted system changes.

Did you mean you tried to restore a snapshot?
This is also ambiguous:

After restoration of clean Arch install

As a fresh install is not a restoration I would think.

On my hard drive, I keep a snapshot of Arch just after base system install. I like to have a clean disk. For example, I don't like to clean .config directory. And if I'm correct, there is no fast way to switch from gnome to kde without a ton of config files from those environments.
So I prefer to restore my snapshot of root and home and copy documents or music from backup drive.

Log from VM:

cat VBox.log 
00:00:00.793893 VirtualBox VM 6.1.34 r150636 linux.amd64 (May 30 2022 06:37:05) release log
00:00:00.793895 Log opened 2022-06-20T14:17:01.991438000Z
00:00:00.793895 Build Type: release
00:00:00.793896 OS Product: Linux
00:00:00.793897 OS Release: 5.18.5-arch1-1
00:00:00.793897 OS Version: #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu, 16 Jun 2022 20:40:45 +0000
00:00:00.793912 DMI Product Name: Spin SP513-55N
00:00:00.793915 DMI Product Version: V1.17
00:00:00.793918 Firmware type: UEFI
00:00:00.794261 Secure Boot: Disabled
00:00:00.794277 Host RAM: 15794MB (15.4GB) total, 13836MB (13.5GB) available
00:00:00.794279 Executable: /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM
00:00:00.794279 Process ID: 2366
00:00:00.794280 Package type: LINUX_64BITS_GENERIC (OSE)
00:00:00.800245 Installed Extension Packs:
00:00:00.800260   Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack (Version: 6.1.34 r150636; VRDE Module: VBoxVRDP)
00:00:00.800680 Console: Machine state changed to 'Starting'
00:00:00.800796 Qt version: 5.15.5
00:00:00.800810 X11 Window Manager code: 3
00:00:00.808674 SUP: seg #0: R   0x00000000 LB 0x0004d000
00:00:00.808693 SUP: seg #1: R X 0x0004d000 LB 0x00119000
00:00:00.808697 SUP: seg #2: R   0x00166000 LB 0x00060000
00:00:00.808699 SUP: seg #3: RW  0x001c6000 LB 0x000350a0
00:00:00.811150 GUI: UIMediumEnumerator: Medium-enumeration finished!
00:00:00.814295 X Server details: vendor: The X.Org Foundation, release: 12201002, protocol version: 11.0, display string: :1
00:00:00.814307 Using known keycode mapping for keycode to scan code conversion
00:00:00.816715 GUI: UIDesktopWidgetWatchdog::sltHandleHostScreenAvailableGeometryCalculated: Screen 0 work area is actually resized to: 0x0 x 1128x714
00:00:00.821795 GUI: Machine-window #0 activated
00:00:00.821824 GUI: Machine-view #0 focused, reason=3
00:00:02.715876 GUI: Machine-window #0 deactivated
00:00:02.715899 GUI: Releasing mouse on focus out
00:00:02.717325 GUI: Machine-view #0 unfocused, reason=3

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#5 2022-06-20 15:59:11

d_fajardo
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Posts: 1,652

Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

@Linux2Brain
Your problem is related to this:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=276699

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#6 2022-06-20 16:11:02

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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

@860lacov
From the VM logs there's no VM being loaded. It should enumerate the Guest Machine type, and location of the virtual disk.

I don't have experience restoring a backup from a btrfs snapshot. It's possible this is the cause of the problem. Others in the forum who have done it might be able to help.

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#7 2022-06-20 19:29:11

860lacov
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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

d_fajardo wrote:

@860lacov
From the VM logs there's no VM being loaded. It should enumerate the Guest Machine type, and location of the virtual disk.

I don't have experience restoring a backup from a btrfs snapshot. It's possible this is the cause of the problem. Others in the forum who have done it might be able to help.

That's not the case for sure.
I use this method for a long time.
After restoring btrfs snapshot is like a system after installation with pacstrap.
I have pure terminal with software that I always use.
There is rsync, network manager, bash completion. That's all.
From this point I have clean plasma install with clean virtualbox install.
Virtualbox machines directory have nocow attribute.

Nothing new from my side.

Injust realised that I tried with gnome lately and I had similar problem with boxes.
Frozen virtual machine just after pressing launch button.

I'm a freak in this area.
In kde plasma I try to use only qt apps and in gnome only gtk applications. Sadly it's not possible so when I want to try something new I usually install another DE, play a little and use btrfs snapshot to start from the beginning

Last edited by 860lacov (2022-06-20 19:31:34)

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#8 2022-06-21 07:39:32

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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

d_fajardo wrote:

@Linux2Brain
Your problem is related to this:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=276699

Thank you smile

appending 

ibt=off

to kernel boot params fixed my problem. wink

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#9 2022-06-21 07:57:46

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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

I'll check it.
Is ibt something that I should be worry about?

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#10 2022-06-21 08:14:28

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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

860lacov wrote:

Is ibt something that I should be worry about?

No. Your log is not flagging the missing ENDBR error so your CPU is not affected.

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#11 2022-06-21 08:24:11

loqs
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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

d_fajardo wrote:
860lacov wrote:

Is ibt something that I should be worry about?

No. Your log is not flagging the missing ENDBR error so your CPU is not affected.

Yet in the opening post the /proc/cpuinfo output shows the CPU supports ibt.  There may be some other factor that allows some builds of virtualbox modules to have IBT support and others to lack it.

860lacov what virtualbox kernel modules are loaded if any?

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#12 2022-06-21 08:58:05

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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

loqs wrote:
d_fajardo wrote:
860lacov wrote:

Is ibt something that I should be worry about?

No. Your log is not flagging the missing ENDBR error so your CPU is not affected.

Yet in the opening post the /proc/cpuinfo output shows the CPU supports ibt.  There may be some other factor that allows some builds of virtualbox modules to have IBT support and others to lack it.

860lacov what virtualbox kernel modules are loaded if any?

vboxnetflt             32768  0
vboxnetadp             28672  0
vboxdrv               544768  3 vboxnetadp,vboxnetfl

I tried ibt=off and it worked.

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#13 2022-06-21 10:55:17

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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

loqs wrote:

Yet in the opening post the /proc/cpuinfo output shows the CPU supports ibt.

Yes, you're right. Missed that.

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#14 2022-06-22 22:26:34

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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

Hi, I tried this myself on my Framework laptop running 5.18.5-arch1-1. I tried adding this to the kernel parameters at boot time but it made no difference. The exact same issue is happening to me. I also tried downgrading to version 6.32 but the problem persisted. Any other ideas?

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#15 2022-06-23 04:59:42

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Re: Virtualbox hangs on Starting virtual machine window

@w0nder if /proc/cmdline shows ibt=off has been added correctly and the issue is still present I would suggest starting a new thread as the cause can not be the same or the same fix would apply.

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