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#1 2022-06-22 07:35:48

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[SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

Sorry, but I really don't feel like to think hard and write on this simple error and what issues i run into, so i just recorded a 2 minutes long video showing the error, i hope its enough and helpful. Thank you

https://youtu.be/5nPOaCB-1NM

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#2 2022-06-22 07:45:27

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

TheResistance wrote:

Sorry, but I really don't feel like to think hard and write on this simple error and what issues i run into

So, you expect the community to do the thinking and writing for you? Don't be a help vampire.


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#3 2022-06-23 12:49:36

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

jasonwryan wrote:
TheResistance wrote:

Sorry, but I really don't feel like to think hard and write on this simple error and what issues i run into

So, you expect the community to do the thinking and writing for you? Don't be a help vampire.

i posted a video showing the error, i don't need to type it in text here. Everything regarding the error are there. What more do you want? <-- This is a question and not a follow up line or whatever it is, i dont speak english primarly.

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#4 2022-06-23 13:07:22

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

Quick report: I somehow managed to get it open, i did something and i really dont know what.


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#5 2022-06-23 14:28:44

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=130309
https://terms.archlinux.org/docs/code-of-conduct
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/General_guidelines

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Genera … s_and_code
We've been here, but I'll quote it for you:

Do not post screenshots of text output; post the actual text.

"I really don't feel like to think" is the wrong attitude, entirely.
*You* are going to fix *your* problem. We'll only help you with that.

Also "crashes without an error" isn't a thing,
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Steam/Troubleshooting
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Core_d … _core_dump

If the video you posted is a shaky recording of a fingerprint ridden monitor where you click on something but nothing happens while somebody is breathing heavily in the background, we'll be able to tell as much from that as you: Nothing.
Otherwise post the relevant information - and I'll re-iterate:

Do not post screenshots of text output; post the actual text.

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#6 2022-06-23 15:11:15

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

seth wrote:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=130309
https://terms.archlinux.org/docs/code-of-conduct
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/General_guidelines

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Genera … s_and_code
We've been here, but I'll quote it for you:

Do not post screenshots of text output; post the actual text.

"I really don't feel like to think" is the wrong attitude, entirely.
*You* are going to fix *your* problem. We'll only help you with that.

Also "crashes without an error" isn't a thing,
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Steam/Troubleshooting
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Core_d … _core_dump

If the video you posted is a shaky recording of a fingerprint ridden monitor where you click on something but nothing happens while somebody is breathing heavily in the background, we'll be able to tell as much from that as you: Nothing.
Otherwise post the relevant information - and I'll re-iterate:

Do not post screenshots of text output; post the actual text.

I just wanted to see if anyone understands anything in the terminal output, and if they have a solution for this particular proton problem.


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#7 2022-06-23 15:54:46

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

Let me explain some stuff that you might didn't get or know.

seth wrote:

"I really don't feel like to think" is the wrong attitude, entirely.
*You* are going to fix *your* problem. We'll only help you with that.

First of all, as you might know my primary language isn't English, and I have some trouble writing long stuff(, especially about problems that i don't understand stuff about) and actually having a healthy and grammar mistake-free conversation. And as i said in my previous reply, the video i sent was enough to explain that what i asked for. It is exhausting for me to think what im going to write to ask to forums, What i say here must be specific and not confusing for people to understand the situation. In general, All i have in my mind to say to explain the situation is nothing but this. I hope you understand.

Secondly, You do not need to be rude about my behavior that i didn't notice, just simply and friendly warn and show me my mistake. And i felt from the links you sent to some guidelines was like you of talking / teaching to me like a baby, that isn't the altitude i was looking for. Anyway, I know you guys are donors that spare their time to help others, but you know and you can see I'm new to here and to forums in general. I'm trying to get the environment and the people in here. I never been active on a forum before.
And just wanted to let you know that I try and look anything i can find to fix a problem i encounter, and if i couldn't find one I ask for help or some guidance for them.

If the video you posted is a shaky recording of a fingerprint ridden monitor where you click on something but nothing happens while somebody is breathing heavily in the background

No. I just couldn't set up obs properly.


[resistance@Resistance ~]$ coredumpctl list
Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system.
      Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal', 'wheel' can see all messages.
      Pass -q to turn off this notice.
TIME                            PID  UID  GID SIG     COREFILE EXE                                                                                       SIZE
Thu 2022-06-09 02:30:57 UTC     537 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /usr/bin/xfdesktop                                                                         n/a
Fri 2022-06-10 17:20:31 UTC    6102 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /usr/bin/bash                                                                              n/a
Sun 2022-06-12 23:19:35 UTC   17786 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /usr/bin/xfce4-settings-manager                                                            n/a
Mon 2022-06-13 00:52:31 UTC    3472 1000 1000 SIGABRT missing  /usr/bin/gamemoded                                                                         n/a
Mon 2022-06-13 00:55:17 UTC    4034 1000 1000 SIGABRT missing  /usr/bin/gamemoded                                                                         n/a
Mon 2022-06-13 00:55:17 UTC    3852 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /usr/bin/xfce4-power-manager                                                               n/a
Mon 2022-06-13 00:56:28 UTC    4500 1000 1000 SIGABRT missing  /usr/bin/gamemoded                                                                         n/a
Mon 2022-06-13 01:05:12 UTC    9271 1000 1000 SIGABRT missing  /usr/bin/gamemoded                                                                         n/a
Tue 2022-06-14 05:29:36 UTC     529 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /usr/bin/xfce4-power-manager                                                               n/a
Tue 2022-06-14 05:36:59 UTC     744 1000 1000 SIGABRT missing  /usr/bin/gamemoded                                                                         n/a
Tue 2022-06-14 09:21:37 UTC    5004 1000 1000 SIGABRT missing  /usr/bin/gamemoded                                                                         n/a
Tue 2022-06-14 11:27:36 UTC   15500 1000 1000 SIGABRT missing  /usr/bin/cmus                                                                              n/a
Tue 2022-06-14 11:42:13 UTC   15667 1000 1000 SIGTRAP missing  /usr/lib/electron17/electron                                                               n/a
Fri 2022-06-17 05:41:38 UTC    1710 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /usr/bin/xfdesktop                                                                         n/a
Fri 2022-06-17 10:32:51 UTC   64744 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /usr/bin/wine-preloader                                                                    n/a
Sat 2022-06-18 04:55:41 UTC   74341 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /usr/bin/python3.10                                                                        n/a
Sat 2022-06-18 05:17:25 UTC  122079 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  /usr/bin/python3.10                                                                        n/a
Sat 2022-06-18 07:36:40 UTC  170249 1000 1000 SIGSEGV missing  FalloutNV.exe                                                                              n/a
Sun 2022-06-19 07:57:55 UTC  214134 1000 1000 SIGBUS  missing  /usr/bin/exo-open                                                                          n/a
Mon 2022-06-20 14:18:42 UTC  426443 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM                                                          2.7M
Mon 2022-06-20 14:20:20 UTC  426486 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM                                                          2.7M
Mon 2022-06-20 14:22:56 UTC  426747 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM                                                          2.7M
Mon 2022-06-20 14:23:07 UTC  426776 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM                                                          2.7M
Mon 2022-06-20 14:23:18 UTC  426798 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM                                                          2.7M
Mon 2022-06-20 14:24:11 UTC  426838 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM                                                          2.7M
Mon 2022-06-20 14:25:29 UTC  426920 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM                                                          2.7M
Mon 2022-06-20 17:36:11 UTC  464372 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM                                                          2.7M
Mon 2022-06-20 17:36:27 UTC  464400 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM                                                          2.7M
Mon 2022-06-20 17:49:21 UTC  468365 1000 1000 SIGABRT present  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM                                                          2.7M
Tue 2022-06-21 07:30:48 UTC  143133 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present  /usr/bin/polybar                                                                        582.5K
Tue 2022-06-21 18:41:09 UTC 1003869 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present  /usr/bin/wine-preloader                                                                  10.0M
Tue 2022-06-21 18:45:34 UTC 1006959 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present  /usr/bin/wine-preloader                                                                  10.1M
Tue 2022-06-21 18:50:51 UTC 1010259 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present  /usr/bin/wine-preloader                                                                  10.0M
Thu 2022-06-23 13:12:25 UTC  328650 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present  /home/resistance/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 7.0/dist/bin/wine-preloader  45.4M
[resistance@Resistance ~]$

Also i think the link you sent to coredump may be helpful for some situations in the future and for this one.
Doing coredumpctl gdb match gives this result
"Failed to invoke gdb: No such file or directory"

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#8 2022-06-23 19:42:24

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

First of all, as you might know my primary language isn't English, and I have some trouble writing long stuff

I guess it's not for most forum members.

Your English is fine, but if you struggle with that:
https://www.deepl.com/translator
https://translate.google.com/
https://www.dict.cc/

grammar mistake-free conversation

Nobody cares. Bad English is the lingua franca of the internet.
If your post is unintelligible because of that, you'll be asked to clarify and that's that.

You do not need to be rude about my behavior

Pointing out the forum gudelines isn't rude.

talking / teaching to me like a baby

You're supposed to be familiar w/ and adhere to those guidelines, yet constantly violating them.
So somebody has to direct you there.
That's not to condescend, but to inform and allow you to use the forum more effectively.

Failed to invoke gdb: No such file or directory

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gdb/

The wine-preloader coredumps certainly look interesting.
Also run steam/proton from an interactive shell - it'll certainly print some messages.

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#9 2022-06-24 16:44:11

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

seth wrote:

You're supposed to be familiar w/ and adhere to those guidelines, yet constantly violating them.
So somebody has to direct you there.
That's not to condescend, but to inform and allow you to use the forum more effectively.

I just asked that to be more kindly, that's it.
Also i know that translates exist, i do use them.
And i meant to say "describing the situation" to be kinda confusing and hard to me at the most times.



Anyway, how can i run steam/proton from an interactive shell? I don't think i know what an interactive shell is

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#10 2022-06-24 20:29:35

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

I don't think i know what an interactive shell is

Bash in a terminal emulator, eg. https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x8 … -terminal/

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#11 2022-06-25 14:32:39

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

seth wrote:

I don't think i know what an interactive shell is

Bash in a terminal emulator, eg. https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x8 … -terminal/

The video i sent at the very beginning of this thread already shows it. I suggest you watch it.


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#12 2022-06-25 14:42:09

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

No.

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#13 2022-06-25 14:44:57

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

seth wrote:

No.

The video literally shows what you just asked for. I launched steam with an interactive shell just like you asked and ran a game, logs and outputs are there, all of them. What do you want or mean?


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#14 2022-06-25 14:45:35

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

Update: got this error while compiling protonfixes[aur]

mv: cannot stat '/home/resistance/.cache/yay/protonfixes/pkg/protonfixes/usr/static': No such file or directory
==> ERROR: A failure occurred in package().
    Aborting...
 -> error making: protonfixes
[resistance@Resistance ~]$ 

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#15 2022-06-27 11:37:30

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Re: [SOLVED]Can't get proton to work (It crashes without any error)

Probably final update: Most games boot without error, expect some. But in almost all cases, it performs very poor performance.


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