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#1 2022-06-28 02:20:40

ComputerSoap
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Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

Select applications view the computer as possessing a network, the only non default programs on the computer are firefox, chromium, steam, yay, and minecraft-launcher and respective dependencies, the computer is using Network Manager and Awesome DE and an up to date ISO file(2022.06.01). Network manager is the only current networking program and using nm-connection-editor the only network is enp34s0 in IP link with a default priority of -999 for some reason, changing the priority yielded no results. Aditionally the nm-connection-editor will say it last connected to the Ethernet port at the last time the system was turned on. Steam store, downloading steam games and downloading files through the terminal work as expected but all other applications such as games, steam friends network, and certain websites act as if there were no connection. Under Network configuration/Ethernet the arch wiki has a specific mention of the Ethernet controller but blacklisting module r8169 and installing module r8168 provided no results and disabling IPv6 only messed up networking entirely. I have tried an install using the manual configuration option in the guided installer but the computer didn't recognize Ethernet at all and no functions including downloading from terminal had worked.

Current instillation is fresh and prior mentioned changes to network or kernel were in previous instillations.


Ethernet controller:
[soap@home-pc ~]$ lspci -v | grep Ethernet
22:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15)

IP Link results:
[soap@home-pc ~]$ ip link
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: enp34s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:d8:61:ff:00:4b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

I have had a long previous arch instillation on this computer that had completely working Ethernet using network manager but it was from the old less user friendly guided installer from about a year ago and my own stupidity semi recently led me to consider a fresh install the lesser of two evils.

I could also attempt to build arch myself again but it is an annoying time investment I would prefer to avoid if possible given there is no guarantee I will make the network any better than the installer. 
I just wish for a working Ethernet I don't care if the solution is to fix Network Manager or to try something new.

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#2 2022-06-28 04:05:25

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

Moving to Guided Installer section.

All the best,

-HG

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#3 2022-06-28 06:38:33

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

Steam store, downloading steam games and downloading files through the terminal work as expected but all other applications such as games, steam friends network, and certain websites act as if there were no connection.

Your problem is not the ethernet connection, your ip l shows it to be there and up and "certain websites" isn't useful information.

ip a
ip r
ping certain_website_thats_totally_not_pornhub
stat /etc/resolv.conf
cat /etc/resolv.conf
resolvectl status
find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f

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#4 2022-06-28 07:13:08

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

seth wrote:
ip a
ip r
ping certain_website_thats_totally_not_pornhub
stat /etc/resolv.conf
cat /etc/resolv.conf
resolvectl status
find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f

ip a

[soap@home-pc ~]$ ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enp34s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:d8:61:ff:00:4b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.1.12/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute enp34s0
       valid_lft 56726sec preferred_lft 56726sec
    inet6 fe80::a523:103b:de00:5d64/64 scope link noprefixroute
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

ip r

[soap@home-pc ~]$ ip r
default via 192.168.1.1 dev enp34s0 proto dhcp src 192.168.1.12 metric 100
192.168.1.0/24 dev enp34s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.12 metric 100

ping login.live.com -c 10

[soap@home-pc ~]$ ping: login.live.com/oauth20_authorize.srf?redirect_uri=https://sisu.xboxlive.com/connect/oauth/XboxLive: Name or service not known
^C
[1]+  Exit 2                  ping login.live.com/oauth20_authorize.srf?redirect_uri=https://sisu.xboxlive.com/connect/oauth/XboxLive
[soap@home-pc ~]$ ping login.live.com -c 10
PING www.tm.a.prd.aadg.akadns.net (40.126.28.14) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- www.tm.a.prd.aadg.akadns.net ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 9110ms

[soap@home-pc ~]$ ping login.live.com -c 10
PING www.tm.a.prd.aadg.trafficmanager.net (40.126.28.11) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- www.tm.a.prd.aadg.trafficmanager.net ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 9116ms

ping login.live.com/(redirect stuff)

[soap@home-pc ~]$ ping login.live.com/oauth20_authorize.srf?redirect_uri=https://sisu.xboxlive.com/connect/oauth/XboxLive&response_type=code&state=LAAAAAEB2Iq8NnHTcxiZeXj_Mnx4NUnh-66qRgAxVKt9yfNJ0yYl8dkEJ5YvMDk0ZDY0MzI0ZThlNGUwNWE3OTBlZmIyZGM5MTU4MmYx&client_id=000000004420578E&scope=XboxLive.Signin&lw=1&fl=dob,easi2&xsup=1&cobrandid=8058f65d-ce06-4c30-9559-473c9275a65d -c 10
[1] 44809
[2] 44810
[3] 44811
[4] 44812
[5] 44813
[6] 44814
[7] 44815
[8] 44816
bash: -c: command not found
[2]   Done                    response_type=code
[3]   Done                    state=LAAAAAEB2Iq8NnHTcxiZeXj_Mnx4NUnh-66qRgAxVKt9yfNJ0yYl8dkEJ5YvMDk0ZDY0MzI0ZThlNGUwNWE3OTBlZmIyZGM5MTU4MmYx
[4]   Done                    client_id=000000004420578E
[5]   Done                    scope=XboxLive.Signin
[6]   Done                    lw=1
[7]-  Done                    fl=dob,easi2
[8]+  Done                    xsup=1

not porn sad a redirect page for microsoft login on minecraft website.

stat /etc/resolv.conf

[soap@home-pc ~]$ stat /etc/resolv.conf
  File: /etc/resolv.conf
  Size: 53        	Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   regular file
Device: 259,2	Inode: 921885      Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2022-06-27 21:53:09.142626547 -0500
Modify: 2022-06-24 17:39:24.872195327 -0500
Change: 2022-06-24 17:39:24.875528660 -0500
 Birth: 2022-06-24 17:39:24.872195327 -0500

cat /etc/resolv.conf

[soap@home-pc ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 192.168.1.1

resolvectl status

[soap@home-pc ~]$ resolvectl status
Failed to get global data: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service not found.

find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f

[soap@home-pc ~]$ find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f
dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service | system
dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service   | system
dirmngr.socket                           | sockets.target.wants
fstrim.timer                             | timers.target.wants
gcr-ssh-agent.socket                     | sockets.target.wants
getty@tty1.service                       | getty.target.wants
gpg-agent-browser.socket                 | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent-extra.socket                   | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent.socket                         | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent-ssh.socket                     | sockets.target.wants
NetworkManager.service                   | multi-user.target.wants
NetworkManager-wait-online.service       | network-online.target.wants
p11-kit-server.socket                    | sockets.target.wants
pipewire-pulse.socket                    | sockets.target.wants
pipewire-session-manager.service         | user
pipewire.socket                          | sockets.target.wants
remote-fs.target                         | multi-user.target.wants
systemd-timesyncd.service                | sysinit.target.wants
wireplumber.service                      | pipewire.service.wants

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#5 2022-06-28 07:33:04

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

Network and DNS are fine, you're not using resolved and you cannot ping urls.

The login.live.com host doesn't respond to ICMP requests, try

wget -O /dev/stdout login.live.com | less

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#6 2022-06-28 07:57:50

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

wget -O /dev/stdout login.live.com | less

<!-- Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. --><!DOCTYPE html><!-- ServerInfo: SN1PEPF00011020 2022.06.24.08.00.59 LocVer:0 --><!-- PreprocessInfo: CBA-0624_074548_0:SA2PNPF000022FB, 2022-06-24T07:57:07.8143912-07:00 - Version: 16,0,294
51,4 -->

Last edited by ComputerSoap (2022-06-28 08:11:09)

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#7 2022-06-28 08:09:26

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

You didn't have to post that (therefore less, the pager copy is capped anyway) but the dowload of the url clearly works - can you open login.live.com in your browser and is your problem actually exclusively the minecraft login?
btw, the other post contains useless, but private data in the "ping login.live.com/oauth20_authorize.srf" block, you should edit that post and remove the part.

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#8 2022-06-28 08:12:26

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

Either way it just ends up a white screen that doesn't load, I should have specified that the login I was trying to ping was directly in the mojang website but attempting it through the game also doesn't work

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#9 2022-06-28 14:15:02

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

Do you have javascript disabled in the browser or some noscript etc. extension?
Does it work in the por… private browsing mode or a different browser (which one do you use?)

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#10 2022-06-28 15:54:01

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

No extensions on firefox, haven't changed anything, never even did the setup tab that it starts you on when you install it

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#11 2022-06-28 16:00:31

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

Try chromium and check the page source code (ctrl+u) to see whether it's maybe a rendering error.
You should also alter the subject of the thread (edit your initial post) to reflect that it's a login.live.com issue (afaiu right now)

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#12 2022-06-28 16:46:28

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

ctrl + u just gives me the massive text I tried to copy from terminal earlier but now on one line that you have to keep scrolling through

I don't think this problem is exclusive to login.live as no games in my steam library think there is internet either, hell the nm-connection-editor doesn't even think its connected and has a bunch of warnings in terminal

[soap@home-pc ~]$ nm-connection-editor

** (nm-connection-editor:49683): WARNING **: 11:40:10.533: AT-SPI: Could not obtain desktop path or name


** (nm-connection-editor:49683): WARNING **: 11:40:10.542: AT-SPI: Could not obtain desktop path or name


** (nm-connection-editor:49683): WARNING **: 11:40:10.542: atk-bridge: get_device_events_reply: unknown signature

** (nm-connection-editor:49683): WARNING **: 11:40:10.542: atk-bridge: get_device_events_reply: unknown signature

** (nm-connection-editor:49683): WARNING **: 11:40:10.542: atk-bridge: GetRegisteredEvents returned message with unknown signature

** (nm-connection-editor:49683): WARNING **: 11:40:10.552: AT-SPI: Could not obtain desktop path or name


** (nm-connection-editor:49683): WARNING **: 11:40:10.552: atk-bridge: get_device_events_reply: unknown signature

** (nm-connection-editor:49683): WARNING **: 11:40:10.552: atk-bridge: get_device_events_reply: unknown signature

** (nm-connection-editor:49683): WARNING **: 11:40:10.552: atk-bridge: GetRegisteredEvents returned message with unknown signature

Apex Legends: game boots and gets player & store data but online matches face unplayable packet loss
BTD 6: cant download game data on start
Deep rock galactic: playable offline, all online features are disabled
GTFO: can't connect to servers
Risk of Rain 2: playable offline, player server browser empty
Terraria mod loader: unable to download mods in game
Stellaris: launcher cannot update due to no connection
TF2: works as intended??

These are games that I've tested before, I can try more but no games are downloaded and that will take a while

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#13 2022-06-28 19:49:49

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

ctrl + u just gives me the massive text I tried to copy from terminal earlier but now on one line that you have to keep scrolling through

Means the webpage loads (not sure about FF, but in chromium you can certainly fold the text) - try a different browser.

The nm-connection-editor are all a11y stuff, if you don't need that, you can "export NO_AT_BRIDGE=1" to silence that.

the nm-connection-editor doesn't even think its connected

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Networ … i_examples

nmcli connection show

no games in my steam library think there is internet either

The steam situation might be wholly unrelated to the login.live.com one.
https://help.steampowered.com/de/faqs/v … -DA21-31EB

Are there local or remote firewalls (pihole)?
How did you install steam? Repo, some custom AUR build or a flatschpack?

Last edited by seth (2022-06-29 06:27:01)

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#14 2022-06-28 22:04:41

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

nmcli connection show

[soap@home-pc ~]$ nmcli connection show
NAME                UUID                                  TYPE      DEVICE
Wired connection 1  5d9070ee-d6e7-383b-a4c2-df148ac786f8  ethernet  enp34s0

I personally have not installed any extra firewalls, I don't know what the guided installer chooses for those.
I installed steam through pacman

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#15 2022-06-29 06:37:32

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

nmcli connection up 5d9070ee-d6e7-383b-a4c2-df148ac786f8

but I don't think this is relevant, because we've established that your network principally works.

I personally have not installed any extra firewalls

What about the WAN? Are you at home  or is this a semi-public space (office, educational, starbucks…) where steam traffic is gonna be blocked for sure?
I can't find an IP for steam servers to test the connection, so at this point you might want to wireshark the steam traffic.

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#16 2022-06-29 06:40:55

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

Home, there was some Disney circle service built into the router but that has been disabled to quite some time to my knowledge and it only redirected you from blocked websites

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#17 2022-06-29 07:06:13

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Re: Fresh guided install ethernet (Network Manager) not working

at this point you might want to wireshark the steam traffic

Also really alter the subject, idk what's wrong w/ your browser wrt login.ive.come, but your network is working fine.

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