Unable to upgrade after ignoring one package upgrade

Tetti · 2022-10-25 22:14:31

Hi!

A few days ago I had to exclude thunderbird from the update because the 102 versions no longer work with my imap server.

With the update from icu, a system update is no longer possible.

Does anyone have an idea how I can solve this?

sudo pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: thunderbird: ignoring package upgrade (91.12.0-1 => 102.4.0-2)
warning: thunderbird-i18n-de: ignoring package upgrade (91.12.0-1 => 102.4.0-2)
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: installing icu (72.1-1) breaks dependency 'libicui18n.so=71-64' required by thunderbird
:: installing icu (72.1-1) breaks dependency 'libicuuc.so=71-64' required by thunderbird

With best regards

Slithery · 2022-10-25 22:31:36

Tetti wrote:

Does anyone have an idea how I can solve this?

By including thunderbird in the update.
Arch doesn't support partial updates.

loqs · 2022-10-25 22:34:59

What is the compatibility issue with the IMAP server? If you can not get thunderbird 102 to work with your IMAP server you will need to rebuild thunderbird 91 locally against the current icu.

Last edited by loqs (2022-10-25 22:35:26)

Tetti · 2022-10-25 22:43:52

Slithery wrote:

Tetti wrote:
Does anyone have an idea how I can solve this?
By including thunderbird in the update.
Arch doesn't support partial updates.

Okay, then what is the point of the IgnorePkg option in the file /etc/pacman.conf ?

jasonwryan · 2022-10-25 22:47:59

Tetti wrote:

Slithery wrote:
Tetti wrote:
Does anyone have an idea how I can solve this?
By including thunderbird in the update.
Arch doesn't support partial updates.

Okay, then what is the point of the IgnorePkg option in the file /etc/pacman.conf ?

To remind you to rebuild packages before you attempt a system upgrade...

Slithery · 2022-10-25 22:49:53

Tetti wrote:

Okay, then what is the point of the IgnorePkg option in the file /etc/pacman.conf ?

It can be useful if you are using a distro which uses pacman that isn't Arch.

Tetti · 2022-10-25 22:51:30

loqs wrote:

What is the compatibility issue with the IMAP server? If you can not get thunderbird 102 to work with your IMAP server you will need to rebuild thunderbird 91 locally against the current icu.

I don't know the exact cause yet. After the thunderbird package upgrade the left folder pane is empty.

loqs · 2022-10-25 23:08:08

Basic tests shutdown thunderbird then:

thunderbird --safe-mode # disable extensions
thunderbird --ProfileManage #create a new profile and see if you can add your account to that

Tetti · 2022-10-25 23:10:16

Slithery wrote:

It can be useful if you are using a distro which uses pacman that isn't Arch.

In other words, I didn't understand arch linux. Ok, thanks for solving the problem.

cfr · 2022-10-26 03:56:43

Tetti wrote:

Okay, then what is the point of the IgnorePkg option in the file /etc/pacman.conf ?

It can be useful if you know a package shouldn't be upgraded and you know what the consequences are. For example, I have

IgnorePkg   = texlive-bin
IgnoreGroup = texlive-most texlive-lang

But the packages specified here are not from the repos. They are placeholders. They don't install anything. All they do is satisfy dependencies by convincing pacman it has installed them even though it hasn't. This means I can use vanilla TeX Live from upstream (under /usr/local and nothing to do with pacman) but still install my TeX editor from the repos.

Occasionally, this breaks. Not often, but it has happened. It could happen again. If it does, that's my problem. I'd rather use vanilla TL and deal with the very occasional breakage (usually perl-related). I avoid much more problematic and frequent breakages this way. (I have custom code which may well break - avoiding that when a deadline looms is important.)

I also keep multiple versions of TL installed, which is not possible with Arch's packages.

So it is a useful feature if you want to lie to pacman, but it only works because TL is *almost* completely independent of everything else.

Tetti · 2022-10-26 20:56:01

loqs wrote:

Basic tests shutdown thunderbird then:

thunderbird --safe-mode # disable extensions
thunderbird --ProfileManage #create a new profile and see if you can add your account to that

Thank you for that information.
Found by accident: thunderbird does not work with the locale de_DE@euro. export LANG=C && thunderbird => thunderbird 102.4.0 is working

walkingstickfan · 2022-10-29 15:36:19

Maybe you could have tried ignoring icu as well.

Scimmia · 2022-10-29 16:17:12

walkingstickfan wrote:

Maybe you could have tried ignoring icu as well.

Which will break everything else using icu, which is a lot. Don't do this.

walkingstickfan · 2022-11-08 02:06:28

Scimmia wrote:

walkingstickfan wrote:
Maybe you could have tried ignoring icu as well.
Which will break everything else using icu, which is a lot. Don't do this.

Thank you for correcting my ignorance.

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Unable to upgrade after ignoring one package upgrade

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