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#26 2023-01-26 14:56:34

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

[freeartist-arch@home ut]$ coredumpctl info 
           PID: 4528 (ut-bin)
           UID: 1000 (freeartist-arch)
           GID: 984 (users)
        Signal: 11 (SEGV)
     Timestamp: Thu 2023-01-26 16:53:19 EET (2min 27s ago)
  Command Line: ./ut-bin -log
    Executable: /home/freeartist/ut/System/ut-bin
 Control Group: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-1.scope
          Unit: session-1.scope
         Slice: user-1000.slice
       Session: 1
     Owner UID: 1000 (freeartist-arch)
       Boot ID: 262b5c4c52eb4614a217d78cdbf7e999
    Machine ID: 59d47d7570294d38b95124431d7b1d1e
      Hostname: home
       Storage: /var/lib/systemd/coredump/core.ut-bin.1000.262b5c4c52eb4614a217d78cdbf7e999.4528.1674744799000000.zst (present)
  Size on Disk: 22.1M
       Message: Process 4528 (ut-bin) of user 1000 dumped core.
                
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/ut-bin without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/libopenal-0.0.so without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/libmikmod.so.2 without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/ALAudio.so without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/SDLSoftDrv.so without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/IpDrv.so without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/Fire.so without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/Fire.so
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/Render.so without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/UWeb.so without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/Core.so without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/Engine.so without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/libSDL-1.1.so.0 without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/SDLDrv.so without build-id.
                Module /home/freeartist/ut/System/SDLDrv.so
                Stack trace of thread 4528:
                #0  0x00000000f7b12407 n/a (/home/freeartist/ut/System/Core.so + 0x81407)
                ELF object binary architecture: Intel 80386
[freeartist-arch@home ut]$ 

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#27 2023-01-26 15:04:58

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

Forget about the unpatched version.
Why would you expect that to run?
And again: the backtrace for the unpatched version is useless.

Does the patched version run with the software renderer?

Also try a single keyboard layout and have a look at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=30

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#28 2023-01-26 19:20:26

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

Can you compress and post somewhere (googledrive or else) that patched version, so I can try it on my system if it will crash and how?

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#29 2023-01-26 23:54:07

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

seth wrote:

Forget about the unpatched version.
Why would you expect that to run?
And again: the backtrace for the unpatched version is useless.

Does the patched version run with the software renderer?

Also try a single keyboard layout and have a look at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=30

after switching to single keyboard ut starts
but
https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTour … ssues/1180
and
https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTour … ssues/1149
its my issues

ps I am from Ukraine and rusorks is enemy of FreeWorld  i do not speek with them, they always agressive and toxic, and they do know anything, they know only war.

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#30 2023-01-26 23:55:14

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

xerxes_ wrote:

Can you compress and post somewhere (googledrive or else) that patched version, so I can try it on my system if it will crash and how?

   
ok, thanks
i make archive, upload and give link soon

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#31 2023-01-27 03:52:20

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

xerxes_ wrote:

Can you compress and post somewhere (googledrive or else) that patched version, so I can try it on my system if it will crash and how?

please
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LjZo7E … share_link

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#32 2023-01-27 08:05:12

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

So the original problem is solved \o/

I couldn't make too much out of the youtube video, but you probably do not want to use an interlaced modeline (1920x1080i)
In doubt you could run the game in windowed mode and use the windowmanager to set it fullscreen.
You could also try another windowmanager (eg. openbox, I guess you're using xfwm4/xfce right now?)

ps I am from Ukraine

Yes, I saw your keyboard layout.
There're Ukrainians and Russians on this board (and other people (probably from eastern Europe) that are simply fluent in Russian) and they can either ignore you or get banned for dragging the shitshow of this conflict here.

Remember that there 150 million Russians and, as all humans, they're probably not all alike - and you need some higher education, ideally speak English and certainly have exposure to international information to be able to install archlinux wink

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#33 2023-01-27 16:33:19

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

seth wrote:

So the original problem is solved \o/

I couldn't make too much out of the youtube video, but you probably do not want to use an interlaced modeline (1920x1080i)
In doubt you could run the game in windowed mode and use the windowmanager to set it fullscreen.
You could also try another windowmanager (eg. openbox, I guess you're using xfwm4/xfce right now?)

ps I am from Ukraine

Yes, I saw your keyboard layout.
There're Ukrainians and Russians on this board (and other people (probably from eastern Europe) that are simply fluent in Russian) and they can either ignore you or get banned for dragging the shitshow of this conflict here.

Remember that there 150 million Russians and, as all humans, they're probably not all alike - and you need some higher education, ideally speak English and certainly have exposure to international information to be able to install archlinux wink

 
Totally NOT agree!!! Not solved.
Original ut gives crash, patched not working at full screen, but at Fedora and Debian all working good, so its Arch issue i think.

Its not "conflict" its WAR against Ukrainians and all Freeworld and you too! That WAR starting by russian orks! orks not humans! you speeking like orks propaganda! You still living and have good life because we Ukraininans fight for you and all Europe! So you wrong!

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#34 2023-01-27 16:42:45

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

Totally NOT agree!!! Not solved.

This is why we need somebody who's fluent in Ukrainian or Russian and English… you probably barely understand half of what I say.
Be careful to make judgements on this inherently flawed basis.

The *original* complaint was that that UT99 doesn't start and that's now resolved, isn't?
The *remaining* issue is the fullscreen mode - and you kinda ignored my comments on that.




Its not "conflict" its WAR against Ukrainians and all Freeworld

Yes, but not on this board. It's bad enough that it happens in your home country.
There's a specific board rule about what and what topics are appropriate here. International conflicts are not.
https://terms.archlinux.org/docs/code-o … ial-topics

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#35 2023-01-27 16:45:00

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

>shitshow of this conflict

from this "shitshow" dependence yor life

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#36 2023-01-27 16:47:40

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

>The *original* complaint was that that UT99 doesn't start and that's now resolved, isn't?

not solved, ut still not start on arch

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#37 2023-01-27 16:48:13

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

This is why we need somebody who's fluent in Ukrainian or Russian and English… you probably barely understand half of what I say.
Be careful to make judgements on this inherently flawed basis.

Edit:

You wrote:

patched not working at full screen

And I saw the video where it's running.

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#38 2023-01-27 16:53:02

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

>I couldn't make too much out of the youtube video, but you probably do not want to use an interlaced modeline (1920x1080i)
>In doubt you could run the game in windowed mode and use the windowmanager to set it fullscreen.

what meen "do not want use interlaced"? i set native 1920x1080 and try differnt refresh rates 60-75hz

why you think that its wm problem? other games working well at full screen here. problem only with patched ut. so its ut patch problem.

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#39 2023-01-27 16:55:07

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

>And I saw the video where it's running.

running but something with refresh rate, at fullscreen in patched ut only refresh rate go to 25-50hz and this gives interlacing effect

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#40 2023-01-27 17:08:28

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

What is the output of

xrandr -q

Are you setting the different modes from within the game?

why you think that its wm problem?

I didn't say that.
The idea was to rely on the fullscreen feature of the window manager rather than that of UT99, but let's first have a look at the xrandr output.

Also please post an xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#General

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#41 2023-01-27 22:48:38

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

Its gaming DELL 144hz monitor.
Some custom modelines.
xorg.conf

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 418.56

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "IgnoreABI" "1"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "<default monitor>"
    VendorName     "DEL"
    ModelName      "a16c"
   # Modeline "1920x1080_75" 185.63 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
   # Modeline "1920x1080@75" 185.63 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync -vsync
   # Modeline "1920x1080@75" 185.63 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
   # Modeline "1920x1080_75.00"  220.75  1920 2064 2264 2608  1080 1083 1088 1130 -hsync +vsync
   # Modeline "1920x1080_75.00"  220.75  1920 2064 2264 2608  1080 1083 1088 1130 +hsync +vsync
   # Modeline "1920x1080_75.00"  220.75  1920 2064 2264 2608  1080 1083 1088 1130 -hsync +vsync 
   # Modeline "1920x1080_75.00" 164.13 1920 1940 1960 2004 1080 1083 1087 1092 +hsync -vsync
     Modeline "1920x1080_72.00" 160.85 1920 1928 1960 2000 1080 1103 1111 1117 +hsync -vsync
     Modeline "1920x1080_75.00" 164.81 1920 1928 1960 1962 1080 1105 1113 1120 +hsync -vsync
     Modeline "1920x1080_120.00" 280.80 1920 1968 2000 2080 1080 1083 1088 1125 +hsync +vsync
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "NVIDIA  GF9800 GTX"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    Option         "ModeValidation" "NoMaxPClkCheck, NoVertRefreshCheck, AllowNonEdidModes, NoExtendedGpuCapabilitiesCheck"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "NVIDIA  GF9800 GTX"
    Monitor        "<default monitor>"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "Stereo" "0"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

xrandr

[freeartist-arch@home ~]$ xrandr -q
Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DVI-I-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DVI-I-2 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 530mm x 300mm
   1920x1080     60.00 + 120.00    75.00    72.00   143.86   119.98   119.88   100.00    59.96    59.94    59.93    50.00*   59.97    60.00    50.04  
   2880x1620     59.97  
   2560x1600     59.97  
   2560x1440     59.96    59.95  
   2048x1536     60.00  
   2048x1152     59.91    59.90    59.98  
   1920x1440     75.00    60.00  
   1920x1200     59.95    59.88  
   1856x1392     75.00    60.01  
   1792x1344     75.00    60.01  
   1680x1050     59.95    59.88  
   1600x1200     85.00    75.00    70.00    65.00    60.00  
   1600x900      60.00    59.95    59.82    59.99    59.94  
   1440x810      60.00    59.97  
   1400x1050     74.76    59.98  
   1400x900      59.96    59.88  
   1368x768      59.88    59.85  
   1280x1024     85.02    75.02    60.02  
   1280x960      85.00    60.00  
   1280x800      59.91    59.81    59.99    59.97  
   1280x720      59.94    59.86    59.74    50.00    60.00    59.99  
   1152x864      75.00  
   1024x768      85.00    86.96    75.03    70.07    60.00  
   1024x576      59.90    59.82    59.96    59.95  
   960x600       60.00    59.93  
   960x540       59.82    59.63    59.99    59.96  
   864x486       59.92    59.57  
   840x525       60.01    59.88  
   832x624       74.55  
   800x600       85.14    75.00    72.19    60.32    56.25  
   800x450       59.95    59.82  
   720x576       50.00    50.08  
   720x480       59.94    60.05  
   720x400       85.04  
   700x525       74.76    59.98  
   700x450       59.96    59.88  
   684x384       59.88    59.85  
   640x480       85.01    75.00    72.81    59.94    59.93  
   640x400       85.08    59.98    59.88  
   640x360       59.86    59.83  
   640x350       85.08  
   512x384       70.07    87.06    60.00  
   512x288       60.00    59.92  
   480x270       59.82    59.63  
   432x243       59.92    59.57  
   400x300       72.19  
   320x240       72.81    60.05  
   320x175       85.27  
DVI-I-3 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[freeartist-arch@home ~]$ 

X log
https://pastebin.com/raw/0pBeHqpC

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#42 2023-01-27 23:22:51

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

And one more question. Usually after tying to start ut sound is missing i hear only noise only after rebooting sound resorted.

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#43 2023-01-27 23:39:25

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

This happens 70 - 176 seconds after X11 started:

[   171.685] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "DVI-I-2:1920x1080_75.00"
[   205.527] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "DVI-I-2:1920x1080_50i"
[   213.866] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "DVI-I-2:1920x1080_75.00"
[   269.406] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "DVI-I-2:1920x1080_50i"
[   276.270] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "DVI-I-2:1920x1080_75.00"

I guess that was UT99? Though I'd assume the game to pick the default mode (60Hz)
The 1920x1080_50i modeline doesn't show up anywhere, but you're running on a 50Hz mode despite the default 60Hz
1. Let's see whether one of those is the 50Hz interlaced one.

xrandr --verbose

2. Do you have problems w/ the 60Hz mode? What are the symptoms?
Why did you add the custom modelines?

Apparently the outputs EDID is pretty messed up:

[   103.687] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): The EDID for DELL S2421HGF (DFP-0) contradicts itself: mode
[   103.687] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     "1920x1080" is specified in the EDID; however, the EDID's
[   103.687] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     valid HorizSync range (30.000-170.000 kHz) would exclude
[   103.687] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     this mode's HorizSync (28.1 kHz); ignoring HorizSync check
[   103.687] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     for mode "1920x1080".

Please add "nvidia-drm.modeset=1" to the kernel parameters, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA … de_setting
Then post

edid-decode /sys/class/drm/card0-DVI-I-2/edid

You'll need https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/edid-decode-git

The sound will likely be that UT99 loads snd-pcm-oss or so, we'll deal w/ that afterwards.

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#44 2023-01-28 00:55:52

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

>I guess that was UT99? Though I'd assume the game to pick the default mode (60Hz)
>The 1920x1080_50i modeline doesn't show up anywhere, but you're running on a 50Hz mode despite the default 60Hz
Yes its ut. That not i am set 50hz, that patched ut set, and at 50hz picture not interlaced. But then picture interlaced monitor show 20-30hz. I think that all patch problems. Original ut never have such Hz problems.

No ideas why original ut crashes? Try yourself, i am share link.

>Why did you add the custom modelines?
its long story of buggy driver
https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/f … oken/29173
in short, i needed more then 60hz, driver can give only 75hz

>Please add "nvidia-drm.modeset=1" to the kernel parameters,
nouveau show normal edid
i post it later today

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#45 2023-01-28 09:04:12

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

But then picture interlaced monitor show 20-30hz. I think that all patch problems. Original ut never have such Hz problems.

Which is why I'd suggest to simply use your WM to set the fullscreen, so that UT won't try to set a (bogus) modeline.
https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/getting-started
Alt+F11 should™ work out of the box.

No ideas why original ut crashes? Try yourself, i am share link.

I probably even still have the UT99 CD flying around (though I always liked Quake3 much better wink

But that won't help because I'm not running it on the same hardware as you and even if i'd hit the same crash:
The coredump would still just show that UT crashed somewhere in some UT99 library - what tells me as little as you.

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#46 2023-01-28 13:24:30

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

>The coredump would still just show that UT crashed somewhere in some UT99 library - what tells me as little as you.

ok, and why if its ut lib, why its working good on Debian and Fedora and not working on Arch?

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#47 2023-01-28 14:53:47

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

Because you were probably running older versions of glibc and X11 on those systems?
Does the unpatched version work now for you on those systems? On the same hardware? With the same drivers and comparable versions of the software stack?

If the game is currently working for you on Debian and Fedora, why are you trying to play it on arch?

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#48 2023-01-28 21:14:10

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

>Does the unpatched version work now for you on those systems? On the same hardware? With the same drivers and comparable versions of the software stack?

Yes, ut unpatched good working on Debian Sid and Fedora 37

>you were probably running older versions of glibc and X11 on those systems?

how check this?   

>Alt+F11 should™ work out of the box.

yes, for patched ut this help, thanks. Now no interlacing and normal refresh rates at full screen

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#49 2023-01-28 21:39:58

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

Yes, ut unpatched good working on Debian Sid and Fedora 37

So why are you not using those distros?

how check this?

First and foremost glxinfo.
Though nobody can say what causes this

                Stack trace of thread 3523:
                #0  0x00000000f7b12407 n/a (/home/freeartist/ut/System/Core.so + 0x81407)
                ELF object binary architecture: Intel 80386

coredump. The Core.so library is probably binary incompatible w/ some system library, but that's it.
You could strace or ltrace it and hope that that tells you more about what's going on at that moment, though the 340xx driver is the pink elephant in the room.
Does the unpatched version run on nouveau?

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#50 2023-01-28 22:12:53

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Re: [SOLVED] UT99 not start

>So why are you not using those distros?

I am choosing ideal distro for myself) I am curious using all distros interesting for me) That hobby start old soft on old pc)

freeartist-debian@home:/home/freeartist/ut$ xdpyinfo | grep version
version number:    11.0
X.Org version: 1.21.1.6
freeartist-debian@home:/home/freeartist/ut$ ldd --version
ldd (Debian GLIBC 2.36-8) 2.36
Copyright (C) 2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Written by Roland McGrath and Ulrich Drepper.
freeartist-debian@home:/home/freeartist/ut$ 

>Does the unpatched version run on nouveau?

just chek this, not patched not unpatched, not starting on nouveau. All trick i think in nvidia 32bit open gl.

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