[SOLVED] pacman -Syy / pacman -Syu before i can install packages

Efka · 2023-07-18 17:23:26

Hi,im getting an issue where i have to run pacman update before i can install packages ... its not every time but its getting to that moment where it gets to it.
I updated my mirror by speed and closest to my country but still same issues.
I never had this before, anyone can give me an insight what to do ?
Im running arch kernel.
Thank You.

Last edited by Efka (2023-07-19 11:34:03)

ewaller · 2023-07-18 17:41:53

What causes you to make this assertion. What happens, specifically [post the command plus its output], if you do not use -Syy before -Syu ?

Efka · 2023-07-18 18:54:37

Dang, i actually missed this part and now i cant recall but something on the line with error from mirror when downloading packages.
Ill gonna try to install something at some point tomorrow to see exact problem as i tried to install package and it wen ok.

schard · 2023-07-18 19:03:51

Well, yes. Packages get updated and so do the databases. Hence, if you did not update for a while, you'll get errors regarding not-found packages on the mirrors, because they have been replaced with newer versions.
However, never ever run pacman -Sy[y] followed by pacman -S. You're then partially updating your system, which is not supported.
My personal advice is to always install packages via pacman -Syu packages, which is also what I always do. IMHO pacman -S package is completely nonsensical (waiting to get scolded by Allan).

Efka · 2023-07-18 19:09:49

I always do pacman -Syy and pacman -Syu and then i do pacman -S if i can not install packages right away.
But what makes me think its strange as in over the years i never had this issue ... sometimes i do pacman -Syy/Syu once in 3 to 6 months when i cant install anything or sometimes just to update the system but never had any issues and its only now started to bug me ... maybe because its a fresh install? ( as i was using other os for time being )

Trilby · 2023-07-18 19:17:00

Efka wrote:

I always do pacman -Syy and pacman -Syu

Break this habit. Just get rid of the first of these all together.

Efka wrote:

... maybe because its a fresh install?

Nope. Just coincidence. You are not updating frequently, so this problem can show up sporadically: some packages that are not updated frequently may still be able to be installed just fine with `pacman -S $pkg`, but others will give a 404 error from each of the mirrors.

If you rarely update, then I agree with Schard that you should just use `pacman -Syu $pkg` every time you want to install something new (just one pacman command, not three). Though I disagree with `pacman -S $pkg` being nonsensical in general. It would not be good for you Efka, due to the low frequency of full updates - but for anyone who updates more frequently, installing a new package with `pacman -S $pkg` will work a vast majority of the time. And in those rare cases when it fails, it will fail safely.

Last edited by Trilby (2023-07-18 19:17:36)

Efka · 2023-07-19 11:33:05

Noted. Thank You for clarifying thing for me.

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#1 2023-07-18 17:23:26

[SOLVED] pacman -Syy / pacman -Syu before i can install packages

#2 2023-07-18 17:41:53

Re: [SOLVED] pacman -Syy / pacman -Syu before i can install packages

#3 2023-07-18 18:54:37

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#4 2023-07-18 19:03:51

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