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#1 2023-11-16 02:08:59

blero
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Can't post to aur-general mailing list

Some time around/before 2023-11-11, I configured my email client to automatically sign (not encrypt) messages with my publicly-discoverable-through-keys.opengpg.org PGP key. Related or not, I have been unable to say anyting to aur-general since then, judging by the archives at https://lists.archlinux.org/hyperkitty/ … linux.org/. I have tried on at least 5 occasions to send a message, 3 of which were attempting to start a new thread. I've also tried starting the new thread without signing the message with my PGP key. My account on lists.archlinux.org is aliu. Any ideas?


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#2 2023-11-16 09:06:14

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

Have you attempted to send unsigned messages?
Did you receive any bonces (check your spam folder)?
Have you tried a different mail client (web client, if such service)?

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#3 2023-11-16 13:51:39

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

Yes, no, yes.


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#4 2023-11-16 15:05:55

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

So coincidental?
Sending mails elsewhere from that account still works?
Can you still https://lists.archlinux.org/accounts/lo … 2Flists%2F ?

Your MSP might take a week before informing you about delivery failures (eg. if you typo'd the recipient)

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#5 2023-11-16 18:27:17

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

Sending from elsewhere doesn’t seem to work. And I tried sending a (signed) reply to the list on 11-12; it did not work and I have yet to see a bounce.

I’m not sure what you mean by “Can you still” followed by a list of mailing lists I have participated in before.

I haven’t tried to post to mailing lists other than aur-general after configuring signing yet either.

Last edited by blero (2023-11-16 18:28:46)


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#6 2023-11-16 20:33:21

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

The link should off you to sign in?
The question isn't necessarily about other mailing lists, can you eg. use the mail account to mail yourself at a different mail address you control?

If you're positive that the issue isn't the sender you can contact the list about your account, https://lists.archlinux.org/postorius/l … linux.org/ has an email address.

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#7 2023-11-16 21:49:56

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

I've already signed in, so I didn't need to sign in again. My email address works (I later mailed the reply to the person's account instead of the mailing list and they replied).
Thanks, I will consult that address.


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#8 2023-11-18 17:37:37

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

I still haven't received a response.


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#9 2023-11-18 19:29:34

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

Did you approch that address w/ the same sender that's currently failing to post to the ML?
Is it self-hosted? Can you approach them eg. from a gmail account?

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#10 2023-11-18 19:31:49

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

My sender is gmail. Are you sure using another email address which isn't subscribed to the list won't just make it bounce?


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#11 2023-11-18 20:52:46

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

I'd certainly not expect a public MSP mail to get silently dropped.

There're btw. only some requests by aliu in the aur-requests list, but no message in aur-general at all?
Have you *ever* been able to send messages there?

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#12 2023-11-18 20:58:34

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

Um, yes? I distinctively remember https://lists.archlinux.org/hyperkitty/ … INFR5PIPR/

For a new thread, there was https://lists.archlinux.org/hyperkitty/ … BMF52PPEAI. It's weird how it doesn't show up under the "posted" tab.

Last edited by blero (2023-11-18 21:01:15)


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#13 2023-11-18 21:51:14

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

It's b/c I searched for "aliu", but that's not the actual identity in the list.

I've just send a mail to the list that I expec… and it got bounced. "The message is not from a list member"

You've not mentioned whether you can use your sender to send mails to anyone else?

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#14 2023-11-18 22:11:54

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

nope


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#15 2023-11-18 22:13:35

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

Meaning you've not mentioned (that was rethorical), you've not tried or you can't?
Cause the latter would make clear that this isn't actually related to the ML.

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#16 2023-11-19 00:35:49

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

I thought you were asking if there were any bounces again, for which the answer is still no. I don't get what you mean by whether I'm mentioned.


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#17 2023-11-19 08:07:34

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

I want to ensure that you've successfully used your gmail account to send mails at all. Not  wrt the aur mailing list or any mailing list, but to send a mail to your mom [rimshot] or any other mail account you can inquire the receive status for.

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#18 2023-11-19 15:32:05

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

I wrote:

My email address works (I later mailed the reply to the person's account instead of the mailing list and they replied).


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#19 2023-11-19 20:21:55

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

Fuck…

Did you try to contact the owner from a different sender?
(If your mail is in some spam list, you'll otherwise not get through)

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#20 2023-11-20 20:43:53

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

Resolved now after contacting owners with my Chinese alternate address


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#21 2023-11-25 12:38:54

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

Did the comment on why the mails where silently blocked?
(might be interesting if anybody else runs into the same symptoms)

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#22 2023-11-25 15:08:40

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Re: Can't post to aur-general mailing list

All Jelle said was "Interestingly enough you have bounced emails from aur-general so your emails where silently discarded."


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