[SOLVED]Alternate to OzanePlatform AKA Electron

jojo06 · 2024-01-16 23:26:27

I have stuttering problem in discord and visual studio code while im using hyprland. In their discord they suggest me to use flag for them. Which is using the OzanePlatform with that package (i guess, its electron): https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/electron/

I noticed its using chromium. We all know google and also chrome `love` collecting `some datas`. And thats why i dont want to use ozane flag. Is all Electron and Ozane about using chromium or can i pick something else ? Or is there an alternate to this ?

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V1del · 2024-01-17 01:25:36

Electron is literally the chromium engine wrapped as a "desktop" application. Don't worry all these other tools love your data more than google do in these contexts -- that said fairly certain that the google telemetry is not part of electron. If you don't have any qualms about using those you've already lost.

Long story short, no you can't change this but your worry is unfounded/directed at the wrong company.

jojo06 · 2024-01-17 08:00:51

If you don't have any qualms about using those you've already lost.

Can you explain it a bit ? I didnt `use` anything yet. While in Linux without no session gmail/youtube or such. And dont have the chrome at all. Firefox + brave search. And even if thats not enough if i use a paid good VPN. Who can touch my data ? --Im afraid to ask,,, dont want to know tho, but anyways ..? Knowledge is important and i'll get it eventually, hit me.

So i guess, i made a good call by giving a chance to go for vim. But i dont know what will i do for discord. I have to accept my faith but i wonder can webcord help me on this case. Is hyprland staff trying to solve the nvidia issue ?

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V1del · 2024-01-17 13:06:27

You're using discord and vscode, both of which will have a bunch of telemetry associated with Discord/Microsoft (unless you use oss-code like packaged by Arch, but then you don't have access to the majority of extensions distributed on the Microsoft store) which you'd have to worry about much more. Why is Google a concern and these two companies not? If you want to use the services you're going to have to live with that fact.

I suggest you make a distinct targeted thread and explain what "hyprland nvidia issue" you're talking about.

seth · 2024-01-17 13:24:01

Hyprland + nvidia seems to be a thing:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 9#p2144069
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=291970 (very specifically electron related)

jojo06 · 2024-01-17 13:34:23

I'm not worried about Discord. Not so much with Microsoft. But if I understand you correctly, you said that these two companies collect more data than Google, is that right? I'm surprised that Discord needs/do that. I can't say much about Microsoft.

What if I can't access the Microsoft store? Are there people on the forum who use Arch completely (I think this is my dream), are there too few of them? As far as I can see the Linux community already hates windows/microsoft. They are diving deeper into Linux. Putting videos in the terminal, etc. I'll do that sometime.

Nothing to do then. My goal here is to get information and to be as private as possible and as much as possible like everyone else. Plus, vsc no more. and if webcord will do the trick, its perfect

*Sure will, its really common i thought dont need to mention it. Right on sir.

seth · 2024-01-17 13:43:26

Chromium ./. Chrome
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chrom … _chrome.md

Linux community already hates windows/microsoft

No. We just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues.

jojo06 · 2024-01-17 15:21:56

seth wrote:

Chromium ./. Chrome
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chrom … _chrome.md
Linux community already hates windows/microsoft
No. We just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues.

`We just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues.` Fine by me Like i said its chrome itself. I want to read if there is an article or blog/news about it.

What do you think about `use oss-code like packaged by Arch` ? And webcord ?

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xorg … t-sync-git
Than i guess its clever decision to keep xorg. Will try that one.

seth · 2024-01-17 15:24:48

I've never used any discord and have no interest in MS bloated IDE either, so I'm a terrible person to ask about this.
No idea what you're talking about wrt xorg-xwayland-explicit-sync-git - esp. not in this context.

jojo06 · 2024-01-17 16:36:13

The `xorg-xwayland-explicit-sync-git` V1del suggested him in OP's topic.

Im not talking about IDE nor discord.

You're using discord and vscode, both of which will have a bunch of telemetry associated with Discord/Microsoft (unless you use oss-code like packaged by Arch, but then you don't have access to the majority of extensions distributed on the Microsoft store)

"unless you use oss-code like packaged by Arch" what do you think about it, would you go for it ? And what is your opinion about this ? I value your ideas.

seth · 2024-01-17 16:50:38

"oss-code" is https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/code/ which is MS bloated IDE and I think I still don't have interest in bloated IDEs, regardless of the vendor.
webcord is https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/webcord which is a discord client I and still haven't used discord in my life and currently don't intend to.

And I still don't get what you're talking about wrt xorg-xwayland-explicit-sync-git nor where V1del has suggested that in what context.

jojo06 · 2024-01-17 17:18:43

I thought oss-code is some private encryption of system sorry.
Is it smt like yewtube ? The webcord ? If is so or even will not stutter, i will go for it.

There you go: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=291970

V1del · 2024-01-17 17:41:19

@seth his goal is to keep these applications on xwayland for some reason.

Just in terms of future proofing and if the electron versions in use by discord and vscode allow this without regressions you're much better off by switching the Ozone platform to wayland. (... In the case of discord you could also just use the webclient by the way)

jojo06 · 2024-01-17 19:34:03

V1del wrote:

@seth his goal is to keep these applications on xwayland for some reason.
Just in terms of future proofing and if the electron versions in use by discord and vscode allow this without regressions you're much better off by switching the Ozone platform to wayland. (... In the case of discord you could also just use the webclient by the way)

Im not using vsc no more. And if the wecord will do the same job with yewtube. Its done, solved. But like i mentioned in other topic: the graphic generally low, not good and efficient. So ozane may not be the solution or may not needed. And for gaming and such i want to keep nvidia. I still didnt understand is webcord has same logic(mirror) as yewtube ? If yes, its solved. ~~VSC~~ -> Vim && ~~discord~~ -> webcord If its not, i will use nouveau or ozane up to my preference.

EDIT && SOLVED: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 8#p2144218

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