[SOLVED] Today update messup my system ....

saronno · 2024-01-22 13:10:47

First thing first .... this was the packages that have been upgraded.

The first problem I got was with dbus .... this is in the news in the home page dbus-broker-units vs dbus-daemon-units.
I accept to switch to dbus-broker-units, but I got dbus errors and the graphical session didn't start .... even networkmanager failed ..... so I switched back to dbus-daemon-units

Dbus errors were gone, network nanager works .... but lightdm didn't.

I solved the lightdm problem changing the greeter.

Now, I can start and login, but the session take a lot of time to start (I have a xeon with 12 core, 48gb of ram, 512gb nvme samsung ... everything is usually blazing fast).

I got no error on dmesg. Character in conky are messed up ..

This time I don't know where to start to try to understand what's going on.

TIA.

Last edited by saronno (2024-01-23 21:32:41)

schard · 2024-01-22 13:26:42

Might be unrelated, but who owns /usr/lib/libcnbpo407.so and /usr/lib/libcnbpo407.so.1.0.1?
Those look suspicious.

saronno · 2024-01-22 13:30:53

this is conky ...

https://imgur.com/v7ts3OV.png

saronno · 2024-01-22 13:32:38

schard wrote:

Might be unrelated, but who owns /usr/lib/libcnbpo407.so and /usr/lib/libcnbpo407.so.1.0.1?
Those look suspicious.

I think is unrelated, I had been this messagges for sometimes, is not something new ... I was a bit lazy and didn't do anything about since I have no problem with them.

Anyway ...

https://imgur.com/1SsuMdM.png

Last edited by saronno (2024-01-22 13:34:26)

schard · 2024-01-22 14:10:44

Maybe try rebuilding the font cache:

fc-cache -f -v

seth · 2024-01-22 14:49:57

Please post your complete system journal for the boot:

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

Edit: that looks more like a rendering issue and I'm already prepared to rant about the simplydumb idea
Edit #2: in that light, please also post your Xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#General

Last edited by seth (2024-01-22 14:51:38)

saronno · 2024-01-22 15:09:10

schard wrote:

Maybe try rebuilding the font cache:
fc-cache -f -v

It doesn't help

saronno · 2024-01-22 15:13:36

lightdm logs

http://0x0.st/HGoU.txt

journalctl

http://0x0.st/HGHj.txt

Xorg

http://0x0.st/HGH2.txt

saronno · 2024-01-22 15:18:01

About conky .... it seems characters overlap as the time goes by. So, maybe, it's not something about the font itself ...

seth · 2024-01-22 15:24:23

Jan 22 13:54:10 kanon kernel: The simpledrm driver will not be probed

What a letdown. Oh, well…
Conky is probably the conky config and unrelated.

Jan 22 13:54:10 kanon systemd[1]: Queued start job for default target Graphical Interface.
…
Jan 22 13:54:11 kanon kernel: nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.

nvidia module loads late

Jan 22 13:54:17 kanon systemd[1]: Finished File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/23ae11ac-e107-4ed7-9361-4c655fb6271b.
Jan 22 13:54:17 kanon audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-23ae11ac\x2de107\x2d4ed7\x2d9361\x2d4c655fb6271b comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Jan 22 13:54:17 kanon kernel: audit: type=1130 audit(1705928057.102:42): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-23ae11ac\x2de107\x2d4ed7\x2d9361\x2d4c655fb6271b comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Jan 22 13:54:42 kanon systemd-fsck[703]: /dev/sda1: 229331/61054976 files (2.5% non-contiguous), 125277065/244190208 blocks
Jan 22 13:54:42 kanon systemd[1]: Finished File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/da031cf6-47e2-429d-9da4-99dbd43c7a70.

=> fsck

Jan 22 13:55:30 kanon dbus-daemon[1003]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.bluez' unit='dbus-org.bluez.service' requested by ':1.48' (uid=1000 pid=1570 comm="/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/blueman-applet")
Jan 22 13:55:30 kanon systemd[1]: Bluetooth service was skipped because of an unmet condition check (ConditionPathIsDirectory=/sys/class/bluetooth).
Jan 22 13:55:55 kanon bamfdaemon[1782]: AT-SPI: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
Jan 22 13:55:55 kanon dbus-daemon[1262]: [session uid=1000 pid=1262] Successfully activated service 'org.ayatana.bamf'
Jan 22 13:55:55 kanon systemd[1210]: Started BAMF Application Matcher Framework.
Jan 22 13:55:55 kanon dbus-daemon[1003]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.bluez': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms)
Jan 22 13:55:58 kanon dbus-daemon[1262]: [session uid=1000 pid=1262] Activating via systemd: service name='ca.desrt.dconf' unit='dconf.service' requested by ':1.40' (uid=1000 pid=1531 comm="plank")
Jan 22 13:55:58 kanon systemd[1210]: Starting User preferences database...
Jan 22 13:55:58 kanon dbus-daemon[1262]: [session uid=1000 pid=1262] Successfully activated service 'ca.desrt.dconf'
Jan 22 13:55:58 kanon systemd[1210]: Started User preferences database.
Jan 22 13:56:00 kanon systemd[1]: blueman-mechanism.service: Deactivated successfully.
Jan 22 13:56:00 kanon audit[1]: SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=blueman-mechanism comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Jan 22 13:56:00 kanon kernel: audit: type=1131 audit(1705928160.366:118): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=blueman-mechanism comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Jan 22 13:56:15 kanon systemd-networkd-wait-online[792]: Timeout occurred while waiting for network connectivity.
Jan 22 13:56:15 kanon systemd[1]: systemd-networkd-wait-online.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Jan 22 13:56:15 kanon systemd[1]: systemd-networkd-wait-online.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Jan 22 13:56:15 kanon systemd[1]: Failed to start Wait for Network to be Configured.
Jan 22 13:56:15 kanon audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=systemd-networkd-wait-online comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=failed'
Jan 22 13:56:15 kanon systemd[1]: Reached target Network is Online.

You've NM and systemd-networkd (and the network-online targets) enabled, pick one, disable the other.

saronno · 2024-01-22 15:41:15

Don't worry about fsck ... I force the check at every boot since I usually keep the pc up for days (just suspend it at night). Usually every 10-20 days I update the system and reboot forcing fsck.

I disable systemd-networkd.

What about simpledrm and nvidia driver? Should I remove simpledrm, since, from what I see around, there seems to be problems with nvidia driver ... ??

seth · 2024-01-22 15:45:25

What about simpledrm and nvidia driver

That's all fine - I just had hoped I could blame it a bit

What's the outcome of the network cleanup?

saronno · 2024-01-22 15:53:12

seth wrote:

What about simpledrm and nvidia driver
That's all fine - I just had hoped I could blame it a bit
What's the outcome of the network cleanup?

I didn't notice anything .... when I log in, still take 20 seconds or more to load everything .... up to this morning, everything loads up immediately (xfce bars, plank dockbar, etc ...)

Since everything seems to work fine after that, I wonder if it has something to do with the xfce session startup itself ...

how can I check?

seth · 2024-01-22 15:57:54

Jan 22 13:55:04 kanon systemd[1210]: Starting XFCE notifications service...
Jan 22 13:55:21 kanon dbus-daemon[1262]: [session uid=1000 pid=1262] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.Notifications' unit='xfce4-notifyd.service' requested by ':1.32' (uid=1000 pid=1489 comm="/usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/pa")
Jan 22 13:55:22 kanon dbus-daemon[1262]: [session uid=1000 pid=1262] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1' unit='tumblerd.service' requested by ':1.24' (uid=1000 pid=1481 comm="xfdesktop")
Jan 22 13:55:29 kanon xfce4-notifyd[1572]: AT-SPI: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
Jan 22 13:55:29 kanon systemd[1210]: Started XFCE notifications service.

There seems some noise around at-spi-dbus-bus.service - if you don't rely on a11y features you could "export NO_AT_BRIDGE=1"

saronno · 2024-01-22 16:16:32

Done, but not help.

If I log out and login again, same story .... so whatever it is, happens after the log in with lightdm into the xfce session.

Last edited by saronno (2024-01-22 16:19:24)

seth · 2024-01-22 16:24:19

See whether sth. like lxqt still starts swiftly, post an udpated journal and in doubt see the ~/.xsession-erors

saronno · 2024-01-22 16:35:54

I solved the problem .... when I switched back to dbus-daemon-units, I forgot to remove dbus-broker ... I remove only dbus-broker-units.

Now everything is quick again.

The only problem is conky .... do you see anything off here:

http://0x0.st/HGXA.txt

Last edited by saronno (2024-01-22 16:49:23)

seth · 2024-01-22 21:06:10

This is coming from

own_window yes
own_window_transparent yes

Apparently conky fails to obtain a background pixmp - does the issue go away when you restart it after the session started?

saronno · 2024-01-23 06:20:30

If I kill it and restart it, no change .... still messup as before, it clearly keep writing over and over without cleaning the area before updating.

seth · 2024-01-23 09:23:38

Does it help if you set a root pixmap

feh --bg-fill /path/to/some/wallpaper.jpg

resp. when you use "own_window_transparent no"?

saronno · 2024-01-23 21:32:20

own_window_transparent no

solved the problem

Thanks.

seth · 2024-01-23 21:57:25

That's only half-a-fix, you're losing the fake transparency, no?

saronno · 2024-01-24 09:13:33

seth wrote:

That's only half-a-fix, you're losing the fake transparency, no?

Yes. Anyway is not a big deal ... I use dark wallpaper, so a black backgroud for conky is not annoying.
Whatever the problem is, could I have any other problem? If not, is ok as it is.

seth · 2024-01-24 14:18:57

Did you try to set the root pixmap?
Does conky misbehave if you disable the compositor?

saronno · 2024-01-24 14:52:36

seth wrote:

Did you try to set the root pixmap?

I didn't because I haven't feh .... I use ristretto and nomacs. Can I setup the root pixmap in a different way?

Does conky misbehave if you disable the compositor?

I will give it a try ...

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