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#1 2024-05-05 17:49:21

pangomin
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NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

im using 6.6.29-1-lts Kernel and NVIDIA 390.157 dkms driver.
my system isnt smooth i have a laggy experience.
there is my X11 log :
https://pastebin.com/raw/cB4RHrCh

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#2 2024-05-05 19:34:39

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

What environment are you running? That's an 11 year old entry level card. Get rid of the xorg.conf, and adjust your kernel parameters to fix your mitigations=off typo (you currently have mitigstions=off, which won't have the effect you want) and add nvidia_drm.modeset=1 as well, to get rid of the simpledrm device. Maybe also post your output of

glxinfo -B

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#3 2024-05-05 20:43:55

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

my system isnt smooth i have a laggy experience

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855

Also check CPU and IO load, what makes you believe this is related to the GPU itfp?
The FullHD resolution should hardly be a problem for even that GPU, not even w/ a compositor and some (dual kawase) blur in places.

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#4 2024-05-06 05:43:10

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

V1del wrote:

What environment are you running? That's an 11 year old entry level card. Get rid of the xorg.conf, and adjust your kernel parameters to fix your mitigations=off typo (you currently have mitigstions=off, which won't have the effect you want) and add nvidia_drm.modeset=1 as well, to get rid of the simpledrm device. Maybe also post your output of

glxinfo -B

Im using dwm X11 and i have set the kernel parameter
also i have set the mkinitpcio.conf (nvidia nvidia_modeset nvidia_uvm)

glxinfo -B
name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
    Dedicated video memory: 2048 MB
    Total available memory: 2048 MB
    Currently available dedicated video memory: 1640 MB
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 610/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.157
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile

OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.157
OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL context flags: (none)
OpenGL profile mask: (none)

OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 390.157
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

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#5 2024-05-06 05:46:12

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

seth wrote:

my system isnt smooth i have a laggy experience

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855

Also check CPU and IO load, what makes you believe this is related to the GPU itfp?
The FullHD resolution should hardly be a problem for even that GPU, not even w/ a compositor and some (dual kawase) blur in places.

CPU and IO load always In the lower percentage.also I dont have compositor.

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#6 2024-05-06 07:22:10

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

So please elaborate on

my system isnt smooth i have a laggy experience

nobody can give you an informed comment based on a bunch of generic and subjective adjectives.

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#7 2024-05-06 08:26:14

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

seth wrote:

So please elaborate on

my system isnt smooth i have a laggy experience

nobody can give you an informed comment based on a bunch of generic and subjective adjectives.

see this

nvidia-smi
Mon May  6 11:51:33 2024
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 390.157                Driver Version: 390.157                   |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name        Persistence-M| Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp  Perf  Pwr:Usage/Cap|         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
|   0  GeForce GT 610      Off  | 00000000:01:00.0 N/A |                  N/A |
| 40%   51C    P0    N/A /  N/A |    283MiB /  1977MiB |     N/A      Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                       GPU Memory |
|  GPU       PID   Type   Process name                             Usage      |
|=============================================================================|
|    0                    Not Supported                                       |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Apparently xorg dont using GPU

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#8 2024-05-06 08:30:13

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

"Not Supported" - the 390xx drivers resp. at least w/ your GPU generation can't list the consumers. That doesn't indicate anything.
Post your xorg log, but form the glxinfo alone you're running X11 on the GPU.

Then

seth wrote:

please elaborate on

my system isnt smooth i have a laggy experience

if you want this to go anywhere.

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#9 2024-05-06 08:47:52

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

seth wrote:

"Not Supported" - the 390xx drivers resp. at least w/ your GPU generation can't list the consumers. That doesn't indicate anything.
Post your xorg log, but form the glxinfo alone you're running X11 on the GPU.

You right
glxinfo : https://pastebin.com/raw/0JNLJVaM
xorg log : https://pastebin.com/raw/wfpSWS7E

seth wrote:

please elaborate on

I have slow animations,when I used PlasmaDE,everything was slow(like opening menu,resizing the windows,moving the windows,full screening,scrolling,and much more general works).
In the dwm is the same.but less than DEs,because idont have any animations.

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#10 2024-05-06 11:25:43

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

[    40.821] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux-lts root=UUID=fcfa004e-83d2-441e-b1d0-d7afa0a1252a rw loglevel=3 quiet mitigstions=off

[    40.821] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon May  6 08:45:21 2024

You didn't correct the typo in your boot kernel parameters and didn't add nvida_drm.modeset as by V1del in #2 .

Please do and also post lspci -k .


Disliking systemd intensely, but not satisfied with alternatives so focusing on taming systemd.

clean chroot building not flexible enough ?
Try clean chroot manager by graysky

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#11 2024-05-06 15:18:13

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

You didn't correct the typo in your boot kernel parameters and didn't add nvida_drm.modeset as by V1del in #2 .

Please do and also post lspci -k .

Now I fixed the typo problem.
lspci -k : https://pastebin.com/raw/M8uRzsz8

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#12 2024-05-06 16:03:07

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

I have slow animations, when I used PlasmaDE … In the dwm is the same.but less than DEs, because idont have any animations.

Do you run a compositor (picom) along dwm?
At what framerate does "glxgears" run?

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#13 2024-05-06 16:21:24

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

Do you run a compositor (picom) along dwm?
At what framerate does "glxgears" run?

no idont have any compositor

glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
293 frames in 5.0 seconds = 58.438 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.001 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.990 FPS

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#14 2024-05-06 16:36:43

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

So glxgears draws at an expectable framerate - is it also "lagging"?

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#15 2024-05-06 16:41:27

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

seth wrote:

So glxgears draws at an expectable framerate - is it also "lagging"?

yep,especially in the qt apps is a disaster.

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#16 2024-05-06 16:43:43

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

glxgears is not a Qt app and "disaster" isn't a useful description of the situation either.
Can you capture the symptoms in a video?

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#17 2024-05-06 17:00:41

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

seth wrote:

glxgears is not a Qt app and "disaster" isn't a useful description of the situation either.
Can you capture the symptoms in a video?

see this photo in the plasma desktop : https://ibb.co/hf8PnTw

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#18 2024-05-06 17:10:26

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

And what is that supposed to signify?

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#19 2024-05-06 17:13:39

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

seth wrote:

And what is that supposed to signify?

It should not be below 50 or 60 on the desktop

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#20 2024-05-06 17:20:16

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

Did you see the comment that that thing isn't a benchmark and will likely only reflect the updates that are actually required?
Post a video displaying the concerned behavior if you want this to go anyway - we're 20 posts in and *still* at the "its does nots works lol" level.

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#21 2024-05-08 04:19:51

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

seth wrote:

Did you see the comment that that thing isn't a benchmark and will likely only reflect the updates that are actually required?
Post a video displaying the concerned behavior if you want this to go anyway - we're 20 posts in and *still* at the "its does nots works lol" level.

Test on plasma desktop : https://ufile.io/um2wijzc

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#22 2024-05-08 07:03:14

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

That's predominantly the  kwin compositor - you suggested the problem exists with dwm but also just try the impact of suspending the compositor (SHIFT+alt+F12)

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#23 2024-05-08 07:48:22

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

seth wrote:

That's predominantly the  kwin compositor - you suggested the problem exists with dwm but also just try the impact of suspending the compositor (SHIFT+alt+F12)

I used the kwin for better to portraying problem.

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#24 2024-05-08 12:57:37

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

Ok, but please portray it w/o the compositor.
Does the lagginess *somehow* affect an xterm (not! konsole. xterm) on dwm?
Moving it? Resizing it? Entering text?
If no, what about glxgears?

Edit: for some background: nvidia is notoriously slow at resizing GL contexts, not sure whether that's at play here.

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#25 2024-05-09 05:41:19

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Re: NVIDIA GT610 is Laggy

seth wrote:

Ok, but please portray it w/o the compositor.
Does the lagginess *somehow* affect an xterm (not! konsole. xterm) on dwm?
Moving it? Resizing it? Entering text?
If no, what about glxgears?

Edit: for some background: nvidia is notoriously slow at resizing GL contexts, not sure whether that's at play here.

I have less lags(dwm,no compositor,xterm).
Its tolerable

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