Impossible install Arch from live USB due continuous usb error

VecchiaZimarra · 2024-06-16 16:22:06

Hello,

I am unable to start Arch from USB Live due to the fact that the system floods me with several USB port errors like this:
"usb 1-8: device not accepting address 68, error -71", this behavior seems not to be devastating with other distros that use a graphics engine with a self-installing system, which allow access to the shell.
Im looking for some advice or an alternative solution to solve or work around the problem.

here an illustrative screen : https://imgur.com/a/wHPK6gV

here last dmesg report : https://hastebin.com/share/aqefozerev.yaml

tnx

Last edited by VecchiaZimarra (2024-06-16 16:27:09)

js-384 · 2024-06-18 01:12:00

if just using a different usb port doesnt work:
i had issues myself shutting windows down "normally" before using my arch media
my workaround was just to hold the power button with windows running to force shutdown (idk if thats the right terminology) and then boot from usb. that did work for me but windows did have to chkdsk once or twice after arch was installed (minor corruption). so be wary of this method ig

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Trilby · 2024-06-18 01:30:47

If it has fully booted and the error is indeed not critical, then just switch to another tty: press Alt+F2 or Alt+F3, then login there and proceed with the installation.

VecchiaZimarra · 2024-06-18 13:18:22

Trilby wrote:

If it has fully booted and the error is indeed not critical, then just switch to another tty: press Alt+F2 or Alt+F3, then login there and proceed with the installation.

Nope Friend, It's precisely in tty mode that happens these damned usb errors

ewaller · 2024-06-18 16:40:03

Trilby; I think that is Ctrl-Alt-F2 (or F3)

But, they should only show on tty1. tty2,3,4,... should not be reporting these errors.
Did they show on tty2 after pressing Ctrl-Alt-F2 ?

seth · 2024-06-18 17:05:31

Subscribing with the useless enrd-fact that "ctrl+" is only strictly needed from GUI display servers - the console can switch w/o (but in reality and because of muscle memory most people will always just use ctrl+alt+Fx)

VecchiaZimarra · 2024-06-18 19:50:19

ewaller wrote:

Trilby; I think that is Ctrl-Alt-F2 (or F3)
But, they should only show on tty1. tty2,3,4,... should not be reporting these errors.
Did they show on tty2 after pressing Ctrl-Alt-F2 ?

they occur on all ttys from 1 to 10

Trilby · 2024-06-18 20:20:57

Odd - I suspect there is a kernel parameter that could silence the message (specifically USB io messages), but that is a school of magic to which I've never devoted much study. You can use a sledge hammer approach of loglevel=X where X is a number (lower is more silent). A quick test with loglevel=0 could confirm whether this approach can work - if so, I'd not advise sticking with zero, but you could adjust as needed (although if it's just to get through the install, loglevel=0 should be fine).

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seth · 2024-06-18 20:39:32

https://man.archlinux.org/man/core/util … en#OPTIONS
"dmesg -D" / "dmesg -E"

At some point you want to figure what usb 1-8 actually is and address that issue.

VecchiaZimarra · 2024-06-18 21:35:52

Trilby wrote:

Odd - I suspect there is a kernel parameter that could silence the message (specifically USB io messages), but that is a school of magic to which I've never devoted much study. You can use a sledge hammer approach of loglevel=X where X is a number (lower is more silent). A quick test with loglevel=0 could confirm whether this approach can work - if so, I'd not advise sticking with zero, but you could adjust as needed (although if it's just to get through the install, loglevel=0 should be fine).

With GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet loglevel=0 MCE=OFF " now i can switch to tty tt3 tt4 etc, but only on installed system.
From live USB the problem obviously remains

seth · 2024-06-18 21:39:13

You can pass kernel commandline paramters at the bootloader prompt of the iso - select an entry and press "e"

VecchiaZimarra · 2024-06-18 21:48:38

seth wrote:

https://man.archlinux.org/man/core/util … en#OPTIONS
"dmesg -D" / "dmesg -E"
At some point you want to figure what usb 1-8 actually is and address that issue.

Excuse me Seth, in but how can I determine what this damn door 1-8 is plugged to?

seth · 2024-06-18 21:56:10

tail /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-8/id*

but depending on how and where this fails this may just block or post some garbage/placeholder - in that case you'd have to check this from an OS/kernel (the LTS one might now show this behavior) where the device doesn't act up.

VecchiaZimarra · 2024-06-18 22:04:11

seems that this port 1-8 does not exist in my system

https://pasteboard.co/pIx5V1UMvudU.png

seth · 2024-06-19 06:54:52

It doesn't respond to the setup, is this on arch or one of the systems where the error doesn't appear?
If you're not missing any external devices, webcam fingerprint reader and bluetooth are frequently attached via usb, some soud chips, sometimes wifi.

Do you have a windows installation?

VecchiaZimarra · 2024-06-20 18:25:55

seth wrote:

It doesn't respond to the setup, is this on arch or one of the systems where the error doesn't appear?
If you're not missing any external devices, webcam fingerprint reader and bluetooth are frequently attached via usb, some soud chips, sometimes wifi.
Do you have a windows installation?

Hi Seth,

I can't localize any missing internal or external devices. I haven't plugged any external devices.
I tried to exclude all peripherals and USB ports via UEFI bios but nothing happens!

i nevver installed windows on this machine,

seth · 2024-06-20 19:31:55

When you compare the output of "lsusb -tv" on a system that does not have the error and your arch installation, are there any differences?

VecchiaZimarra · 2024-06-20 22:02:21

seth wrote:

When you compare the output of "lsusb -tv" on a system that does not have the error and your arch installation, are there any differences?

here lsusb -tv in arch https://ctrl.vi/i/dueBVDMhX

here in grml https://ctrl.vi/i/U87jwfPAR

seth · 2024-06-20 22:39:13

Please don't post pictures of text, post the text.

I assume the Phison usb-key is the grml iso?
What is the 2/4GB DataTraveler that only shows up in the arch boot?

Edit:
Can you

tail /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-8/id*

on the grml boot?

Last edited by seth (2024-06-20 22:41:37)

VecchiaZimarra · 2024-06-21 07:01:41

seth wrote:

Please don't post pictures of text, post the text.
sorry for that.
I assume the Phison usb-key is the grml iso?
What is the 2/4GB DataTraveler that only shows up in the arch boot?
Edit:
Can you
tail /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-8/id*
on the grml boot?

precisely as on arch devices 1-8 does not exist, it stops at 1-7

seth · 2024-06-21 15:27:48

If there're no errors that means it completely ignores the device or the arch kernel picks up some ghost.
Did you check the behavior of the LTS kernel?

VecchiaZimarra · 2024-06-24 08:28:17

seth wrote:

If there're no errors that means it completely ignores the device or the arch kernel picks up some ghost.
Did you check the behavior of the LTS kernel?

this behavior (ghost usb) happens with all kernels: lts hardened zen linux etc

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