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#1 2024-07-26 15:17:01

laichiaheng
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Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

There is no such problem with linux-zen-6.9.10, but once I update to linux-zen-6.10, the SDDM and Gnome desktop has serious flicker issue, sometimes there are few seconds in black screen.

It also affects the game if adaptive sync on Plasma desktop is disabled when the monitor freesync is enabled.

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#2 2024-07-26 17:10:24

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

There have been various issues reported on 6.10, 6.10.1 is out now, have you tried to see if that is any better? If not, try downgrading to 6.9.10 and if the issue goes away we know that it's likely related to the kernel regression.


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#3 2024-07-26 18:05:52

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

Nikolai5 wrote:

There have been various issues reported on 6.10, 6.10.1 is out now, have you tried to see if that is any better? If not, try downgrading to 6.9.10 and if the issue goes away we know that it's likely related to the kernel regression.

Yes, it is the same
Before 6.10, everything works fine

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#4 2024-07-26 19:19:12

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

Also did you check if this issue is specific to -zen or also present in the "linux" package?

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#5 2024-07-26 22:06:49

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

FWIW:

I am using sway with adaptive_sync = off, and had similar issues.  The top quarter or third of my screen flickered, especially whenever I opened a new window.  Downgrading from linux-6.10.1.arch1-1-x86_64 to linux-6.9.10.arch1-1-x86_64 fixed it.  This is with an AMD processor and GPU.

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#6 2024-07-26 23:28:05

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

gromit wrote:

Also did you check if this issue is specific to -zen or also present in the "linux" package?

Yes, it also happens to normal linux.

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#7 2024-07-26 23:29:01

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

lp0 wrote:

FWIW:

I am using sway with adaptive_sync = off, and had similar issues.  The top quarter or third of my screen flickered, especially whenever I opened a new window.  Downgrading from linux-6.10.1.arch1-1-x86_64 to linux-6.9.10.arch1-1-x86_64 fixed it.  This is with an AMD processor and GPU.

Me, too. However, it usually doesn't happen on Plasma desktop environment, only if I play a game with gamescope without enabling adaptive-sync in Plasma, once it happens, the flickering issue remains until I reboot my PC.

On the Gnome side, it happens all the time, although I have enabled the experimental VRR.

CPU: AMD Ryzen3700X
GPU: AMD 6750XT

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#8 2024-07-27 10:37:05

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

This could be a kernel regression, which should be bisected and reported upstream to the kernel developers and the regression mailing list ..

Are you confident to do the bisection on your own or do you need some help? smile
If you want I could also provide you with pre-built kernel images for you to test .. 

Good info to get you started is:
- https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/rep … sions.html
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel … egressions

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#9 2024-07-27 13:56:13

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

gromit wrote:

This could be a kernel regression, which should be bisected and reported upstream to the kernel developers and the regression mailing list ..

Are you confident to do the bisection on your own or do you need some help? smile
If you want I could also provide you with pre-built kernel images for you to test .. 

Good info to get you started is:
- https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/rep … sions.html
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel … egressions

It still happens on linux-mainline kernel, I installed it from the ArchWiki unofficial repo.
6.10.0-1-mainline
Building mainline kernel from AUR takes too much time.

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#10 2024-07-27 14:07:30

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

So would you be willing to test prebuilt kernel images?

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#11 2024-07-27 15:04:11

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

gromit wrote:

So would you be willing to test prebuilt kernel images?

How?

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#12 2024-07-27 15:18:52

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

I will do the bisection and build the needed kernels and you just install and test them, you can see i.e. https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/ … ote_196262 for an example on how we would do that smile

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#13 2024-07-27 15:30:33

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

gromit wrote:

I will do the bisection and build the needed kernels and you just install and test them, you can see i.e. https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/ … ote_196262 for an example on how we would do that smile

OK, but I need to go to bed now, maybe try another day, I have to work tomorrow.

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#14 2024-07-27 15:53:06

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

To get things started, please test the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.9.r7370.g33e02dc-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

Note that you'll have to teach your bootloader how to boot the linux-mainline image, but that's usually not hard smile Also no need to hurry, just get back to me once you had the chance to test

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#15 2024-07-27 16:08:13

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

gromit wrote:

To get things started, please test the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.9.r7370.g33e02dc-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

Note that you'll have to teach your bootloader how to boot the linux-mainline image, but that's usually not hard smile Also no need to hurry, just get back to me once you had the chance to test

I still see the issue with this kernel.
[laichiaheng@Julian-PC ~]$ uname -r
6.9.0-1-mainline-07370-g33e02dc69afb

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#16 2024-07-27 16:15:37

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

Please test the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.9.r3117.gb850dc2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#17 2024-07-27 16:17:55

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

By the way, I recorded how it looked like
https://youtu.be/4T9tcnVmuQw?si=RBpjT7Ep-1w3UaN5

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#18 2024-07-27 16:23:00

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

gromit wrote:

Please test the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.9.r3117.gb850dc2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

I don't see the problem with this one
[laichiaheng@Julian-PC ~]$ uname -r
6.9.0-1-mainline-03117-gb850dc206a57

No more flickering or tearing.

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#19 2024-07-27 16:44:58

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

Please try the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.9.r5188.g46c6d2b-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#20 2024-07-28 11:58:21

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

gromit wrote:

Please try the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.9.r5188.g46c6d2b-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

This one is OK, too.
6.9.0-1-mainline-05188-g46c6d2b18691

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#21 2024-07-28 12:27:07

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

Please try the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.9.rc5.r1080.gd65bfb9-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#22 2024-07-28 12:50:16

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

gromit wrote:

Please try the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.9.rc5.r1080.gd65bfb9-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

This one is NG.

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#23 2024-07-28 13:00:23

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

Assuming that NG means "not good" I have marked the previous revision as bad.
Pleas try the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.9.rc2.r468.g3463315-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#24 2024-07-28 13:14:30

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

gromit wrote:

Assuming that NG means "not good" I have marked the previous revision as bad.
Pleas try the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.9.rc2.r468.g3463315-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

This one is not good, either.
6.9.0-rc2-1-mainline-00468-g34633158b8eb

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#25 2024-07-28 13:39:12

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Re: Serious flicker issue with FreeSync enabled since linux-zen-6.10

Please try the following:

sudo pacman -U https://pkgbuild.com/\~gromit/linux-bisection-kernels/linux-mainline-v6.8.rc6.r1719.g4b0cb23-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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