[SOLVED] Ran pacman -Syu as root, alll OK except rawtherapee-5.11

gomi · 2024-08-26 18:42:44

As in the subject. RawTherapee is at v-5.10. So far as I can make out from their web site v-5.11 is a rc, not released yet and should not be in the Arch pacman update repos. At least, not yet.

Now I have a RawTherapee package which starts but does not open and running it with the --version flag starts an instance without returning the version number.. Reinstalling, of course, simply reinstalls the wrong version.

There must be something somewhere which can tell me how to install an older version of a package, in this case rawtherapee-5.10. The wiki page on Pacman is clear about removing a {old? new?} package. Would somebody point me to getting the replacement please?

Information: rawtherapee was behaving nicely until I ran pacman -Syu earlier today.

Last edited by gomi (2024-09-03 11:26:10)

seth · 2024-08-26 19:14:05

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Ala
Also /var/cache/pacman/pkg

Fwwi, https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/ … =heads#L17 sure looks like there an 5.11 release
https://github.com/Beep6581/RawTherapee/tree/5.11

"does not open" means the process remains active but you're not getting a window?
Wayland session? X11?

xerxes_ · 2024-08-26 19:20:33

You can downgrade RawTherapee and install it from your cache by 'pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/rawtherapee [hit tab]'.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Downgrading_packages
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Ala

gomi · 2024-08-26 21:38:44

seth wrote:

"does not open" means the process remains active but you're not getting a window?
Wayland session? X11?

Yes, process active but no window. Wayland. I understand X11 is about to be deprecated so would not work for much longer.

OK, it looks as though 5.11 is now current, as you say. Best to fix what I have then. Any pointer to how to do that? I once had a similar problem with LibreOffice Writer and the solution was to delete ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/ directory but I can't find one in RawTherapee.

xerxes_ helpful links but see my response to seth.

Thanks to both of you.

Last edited by gomi (2024-08-26 21:40:58)

loqs · 2024-08-26 21:40:20

What about the command line version?

rawtherapee-cli --version

As a note `rawtherapee` from 5.11-1 works fine for me using X11.
Edit:
By default cache will be in .cache/RawTherapee/ and config in .config/RawTherapee/.

Last edited by loqs (2024-08-26 21:41:39)

gomi · 2024-08-26 21:44:51

loqs:

~]$ rawtherapee-cli --version
RawTherapee, version 5.11, command line.

so that works, thanks. Also for the confirmation the package is good. Shows the glitch is here on my PC, so fixable.
[edit]Yes, those are the two directories I've been trawling through, except RT is in lower case in my ~/. directories.{/edit]

Last edited by gomi (2024-08-26 21:47:41)

seth · 2024-08-27 06:27:58

loqs wrote:

As a note `rawtherapee` from 5.11-1 works fine for me using X11.

Which is what you should try next
Then elaborate on your wayland compositor and try a different one.

I understand X11 is about to be deprecated so would not work for much longer.

Understand based on what?
X11 is deprecated since 30 years and after 15 years, wayland™ still lacks a common protocol to do basic stuff like screenshots or copy-pasting.
Maybe later.

gomi · 2024-08-27 08:33:21

A breath of fresh air. Thank you seth. I'll do the necessary later, hopefully today, test then mark this thread 'SOLVED'.

Trilby · 2024-08-27 14:23:00

X11 isn't going away anytime soon. In fact, I'd put even odds on it outlasting wayland at this point.

gomi · 2024-08-31 20:45:06

It turns out xorg-server, hence X11, was already installed. I added xorg-apps, possibly a mistake. But I can't see how to swap things over so rawtherapee uses X11.

I have Gnome installed as the desktop but ~/.config/dconf/user appears to be a binary file, unreadable.

Mutter is the wayland compositor. My fear now is, by swapping Mutter out, Gnome may not work. I don't mind losing Gnome for, e.g. Xfce which I have on my laptop, or LXQt, which I've heard reasonably good reports of.

I think my problem is in knowing which order to do things in. Mutter obviously has to go. But which actions should precede that step and which should I leave until after deleting it?

seth · 2024-08-31 21:13:03

You're not swapping out anyting, you're selecting "gnome on as org" as session and log into that (or xfce or lxqt - or an openbox or icewm session if you're unsure) and start rawtherapee there.
You can install serveral display servers and environments and switch between them as you want.

gomi · 2024-09-03 11:25:36

Thanks to all. I had to scratch my head for a while with the final reply above but that is what got me there. Typo, 'on org' instead of 'on Xorg' threw me. There is also another forum thread for changing the default opening session, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=218319.

For anyone else looking to this thread for information, I believe it was a Gnome announcement rather than FSF which said Xorg is to be deprecated and not included in future releases. Worth keeping an eye on and using another desktop if a gui is required.

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[SOLVED] Ran pacman -Syu as root, alll OK except rawtherapee-5.11

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