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#2401 2024-07-24 04:59:59

rgarch
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Re: Laptops which run Arch

$ neofetch --off
OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
Host: Aspire A3SP14-31PT V1.11 
Kernel: 6.10.0-arch1-2 
Packages: 845 (pacman), 10 (flatpak) 
Shell: bash 5.2.26 
Resolution: 1920x1200 
DE: GNOME 46.3.1 
WM: Mutter 
WM Theme: Adwaita 
Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
Terminal: gnome-terminal 
CPU: Intel i3-N305 (8) @ 3.800GHz 
GPU: Intel Alder Lake-N [UHD Graphics] 
Memory: 2786MiB / 7616MiB 

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#2402 2024-08-06 21:25:41

Caocoa
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Posts: 27

Re: Laptops which run Arch

$ neofetch      
                   -`                    caocoa@C40C04 
                  .o+`                   ------------- 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Host: Laptop 16 (AMD Ryzen 7040 Series) A7 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 6.10.3-arch1-1 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 2 hours, 39 mins 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 1336 (pacman) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: zsh 5.9 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 2560x1600 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: GNOME 46.4 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: Mutter 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         WM Theme: Adwaita 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       Terminal: emacs 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS w/ Radeon 780M Graphics (16) @ 5.137GHz 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: AMD ATI c1:00.0 Phoenix1 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 5312MiB / 63484MiB 
 .`                                 `/

caocoa@C40C04 ~:

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#2403 2024-08-15 02:55:14

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Posts: 20

Re: Laptops which run Arch

$ fastfetch                                                                                   
                  -`                     fish4terrisa@arch-fish-mate
                 .o+`                    ---------------------------
                `ooo/                    OS: Arch Linux x86_64
               `+oooo:                   Host: ASUS TUF Gaming A16 FA607PV_FA607PV (1.0)
              `+oooooo:                  Kernel: Linux 6.10.4-arch2-1
              -+oooooo+:                 Uptime: 15 hours, 28 mins
            `/:-:++oooo+:                Packages: 1611 (pacman)
           `/++++/+++++++:               Shell: zsh 5.9
          `/++++++++++++++:              Display (MNG007DA5-1): 2560x1600 @ 165 Hz in 16″ [Built-]
         `/+++ooooooooooooo/`            DE: Mate 1.28.2
        ./ooosssso++osssssso+`           WM: Marco (X11)
       .oossssso-````/ossssss+`          WM Theme: Yaru
      -osssssso.      :ssssssso.         Theme: Yaru-MATE-light [GTK2/3/4]
     :osssssss/        osssso+++.        Icons: Yaru-MATE-light [GTK2/3/4]
    /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-        Font: Iosevka Term (10pt, Bold) [GTK2/3/4]
  `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-      Cursor: Keqing-Genshin (32px)
 `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:     Terminal: /dev/pts/0
`++:.                           `-/+/    CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7940HX (32) @ 5.31 GHz
.`                                 `/    GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Max-Q / Mobile [Discrete]
                                         GPU 2: AMD Radeon 610M [Integrated]
                                         Memory: 4.14 GiB / 62.02 GiB (7%)
                                         Swap: 0 B / 64.00 GiB (0%)
                                         Disk (/): 181.02 GiB / 936.29 GiB (19%) - ext4
                                         Disk (/home): 190.29 GiB / 915.55 GiB (21%) - ext4
                                         Local IP (wlp4s0): 192.168.26.104/24
                                         Battery: 100% [AC Connected]

Add these lines to Kernel cmdlines:

amd_iommu=off idle=nomwait amdgpu.gpu_recovery=1 rcu_nocbs=0-31 processor.max_cstate=5 pci=nomsi

It's a great laptop, very very fast.Unbelievable fast.(Thanks to the Ryzen 9 7940HX)
At first I got some kernel panics , with the capslock light blinking. Finally I found that it's the problem of nvidia closed source driver(it caused memory leak). Now moved to nvidia-open 560 beta and the problem is finally gone.
It used to have a random reboot once per day, but after set the cmdlines

rcu_nocbs=0-31 processor.max_cstate=5 pci=nomsi

  the problem sudddenly disappeared.(Not sure about which one fixed the problem)
It's sold with Win11 Home, but I simply backuped this system to a qcow2 disk(and used it as a virtual machine with qemu later) and installed archlinux with lvm on luks.
I've got a 1TB WD PC SN560 SDDPNQE-1T00-1102 NVMe disk preinstalled in this laptop and I installed another 1TB Kingston NVMe as the /home partition. Both of them are incredibly fast(ASUS told me that they upgraded the PCIe from 3.0 to 4.0, but I don't know how to test it).
It's recommend to enable the AMD Precision Boost Overdrive in the system bios(The low voltage before may also be the cause of the random reboots)
Ethernet, Bluetooth,wireless,screen brightness control,webcam and sound card also worked well.(The wireless card is a bit slow....Maybe I'll change it in the near future.Does anyone have some advices? Maybe I'll try to find a Wifi7 card supported by archlinux)
For full control of this laptop, asusctl, supergfxctl and rog-control-center are needed.The keyboard aura only supports static mode by asusctl.(Never tried to found the reason, as I only need this mode)
Both the igpu and dgpu works great with Xorg, small LLms runs fluently on the dgpu, although the VRAM of the dgpu is a bit small(only 8gb, enough for small llms like llama-3.1-8b)
I upgraded the DDR5 RAM from the preinstalled 16gb to 64gb(the largest ram size 7940hx supported)...That enabled it to hold 2 to 3 vms.
The RAM is a bit unstable at high temperature, and the AMD r9 cpus generate a lot of heat...So make sure your system power profile is set to Balanced or Performance.Only use the Quiet profile if your laptop is idle.
Suspend to RAM seems broken, so I uses suspend to disk insteal.It worked well.
Having used Arch linux for 4 years and tried multiple laptops with Arch, and this one provided me with best experience(Although a bit annoying when the problems aren't fixed) Recommend for everyone(if you don't need official supports)

P.S. The amd iommu has to be disabled to support suspend, so if you need qemu gpu passthrough, it's a bit inconvenient. And you won't get any support from ASUS of the problems you met with archlinux, they simply know nothing about linux(And they even called this laptop a 'Windows laptop'...but you won't need it,right? Every solution is available in the ArchWiki :-)

Last edited by fish4terrisa-MSDSM (2024-08-15 03:47:21)

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#2404 2024-08-16 01:06:53

constellation
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Re: Laptops which run Arch

                  -`                     swift@archlinux
                 .o+`                    ---------------
                `ooo/                    Host: Swift SF314-52 (V1.08)
               `+oooo:                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64
              `+oooooo:                  Kernel: Linux 6.10.4-zen2-1-zen
              -+oooooo+:                 Uptime: 8 hours, 46 mins
            `/:-:++oooo+:                Packages: 966 (pacman), 20 (flatpak)
           `/++++/+++++++:               Memory: 4.59 GiB / 7.63 GiB (60%)
          `/++++++++++++++:              Swap: 3.08 GiB / 3.82 GiB (81%)
         `/+++ooooooooooooo/`            Disk (/): 30.78 GiB / 232.67 GiB (13%) - ext4
        ./ooosssso++osssssso+`
       .oossssso-````/ossssss+`
      -osssssso.      :ssssssso.
     :osssssss/        osssso+++.
    /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-
  `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-
 `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:
`++:.                           `-/+/
.`                                 `/

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#2405 2024-08-17 01:34:51

Sync Shard
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Re: Laptops which run Arch

ASUS TUF Gaming A17 FA706IHRB. w/ GTX 1650 and R5 4600H.
It runs, just not super well, most likely from an outdated BIOS I cannot update because Asus left my laptop's bios dead in the water on version 307. Some issues with hibernation and sleeping, halt will NOT work right, every now and then get a crash from rebooting or shutting down, and I have the G14 kernel to fix an amdgpu driver bug and a boatload of parameters, but, it runs. It runs well I might add, after you get into the system fully. Everything else works fine I should also mention. Use asusctl to control RGB and power-profiles-daemon to switch power modes.


"What is the cost of lies?"

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#2406 2024-09-01 10:04:58

magillos
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Registered: 2010-07-03
Posts: 40

Re: Laptops which run Arch

OS: Arch Linux x86_64
               `+oooo:                               Host: ASUS Vivobook S 15 M5506UA_M5506UA (1.0)
              `+oooooo:                           Kernel: Linux 6.10.7-arch1-1
              -+oooooo+:                         Uptime: 1 min
            `/:-:++oooo+:                         Packages: 1047 (pacman)
           `/++++/+++++++:                    Shell: bash 5.2.32
          `/++++++++++++++:                Display (SDC416E): 2880x1620 @ 120 Hz (as 1920x1080) in 16″ [Built-in]
         `/+++ooooooooooooo/`          DE: KDE Plasma 6.1.4
        ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: KWin (Wayland)
       .oossssso-````/ossssss+`             WM Theme: Breeze
      -osssssso.      :ssssssso.             Theme: Breeze (Dark) [Qt], Breeze-Dark [GTK2], Breeze [GTK3]
     :osssssss/        osssso+++.          Icons: breeze-dark [Qt], breeze-dark [GTK2/3/4]
    /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-         Font: Noto Sans (10pt) [Qt], Noto Sans (10pt) [GTK2/3/4]
  `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-      Cursor: breeze (24px)
`+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:            Terminal: konsole 24.8.0
`++:.                           `-/+/                  CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS w/ Radeon 780M Graphics (16) @ 3.80 GHz
.`                                 `/                      GPU: AMD Phoenix3 [Integrated]
                                                            Memory: 2.38 GiB / 14.89 GiB (16%)
                                                            Swap: 0 B / 24.00 GiB (0%)
                                                            Disk (/): 41.66 GiB / 295.97 GiB (14%) - ext4
                                                            Disk (/mnt/dysk): 220.70 GiB / 1.50 TiB (14%) - ext4
                                                            Local IP (wlp1s0): 192.168.1.175/24
                                                            Battery: 59% [Discharging]
                                                            Locale: en_GB.UTF-8

The experience is not great. I replaced with it machine with Ryzen 5500U, hoping the battery life would be at least as good. It's not and far from it. This Asus idles at 9W and is not able to go any lower. Browsing web or doing anything really makes it consume 15W. Watching videos with hardware acceleration on sends it past 20W and GPU usage goes insane. My old laptop idles at 3W and I can squeeze 8h with light usage from 3 years old 54Wh battery. 6.10.7 was supposed to help with it but it didn't. Battery life at 4h with 75Wh package is horrendous. ASUS disabled or borked CPPC, so PPD can't be used. No option in BIOS or through UMAF to turn it on. Keyboard backlight can't be turn off and I doubt ASUS will ever address that (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=298591). STAY AWAY FROM IT unless you plan to use it mostly on AC. It's fast and I really like the OLED screen. I will be returning this.

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#2407 2024-09-02 13:17:14

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

                   -`                    andy@inspiron5645 
                  .o+`                   ----------------- 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Host: Inspiron 16 5645 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 6.10.7-arch1-1 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 21 mins 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 896 (pacman) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: bash 5.2.32 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1920x1200 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: Plasma 6.1.4 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: kwin 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Breeze-Dark [GTK2], Breeze [GTK3] 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: breeze-dark [GTK2/3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Terminal: konsole 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       Terminal Font: IosevkaTerm Nerd Font Mono 13 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 8840U w/ Radeon 780M Graphics (16) @ 5.132GHz 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: AMD ATI 03:00.0 Phoenix3 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 2384MiB / 15292MiB 
 .`                                 `/

The experience is pretty good. Only one very minor issue - no audio after reboot, have to select a different audio profile manually by click on the speaker icon, audio then works (and works well - speakers/sound quality is pretty good). A budget laptop that runs Arch almost perfectly (just the very minor audio issue). Even the fingerprint reader works for logging in and unlocking!

Last edited by andyturfer (2024-09-02 13:20:44)

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#2408 2024-09-03 04:00:14

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

I got to test another device, a Lenovo P14s Gen.2. I didn't get the touchscreen to work, but then again it has a 4K display, which is not normal for a P14s, so maybe it simply isn't a touch screen. The device didn't hibernate, either, but I'm not sure if that's on me, I only had the thing for a couple of hours. Everything else works without a hassle, including the fingerprint reader.

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#2409 2024-09-03 15:50:47

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

andyturfer wrote:
                   -`                    andy@inspiron5645 
                  .o+`                   ----------------- 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Host: Inspiron 16 5645 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 6.10.7-arch1-1 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 21 mins 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 896 (pacman) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: bash 5.2.32 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1920x1200 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: Plasma 6.1.4 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: kwin 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Breeze-Dark [GTK2], Breeze [GTK3] 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: breeze-dark [GTK2/3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Terminal: konsole 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       Terminal Font: IosevkaTerm Nerd Font Mono 13 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 8840U w/ Radeon 780M Graphics (16) @ 5.132GHz 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: AMD ATI 03:00.0 Phoenix3 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 2384MiB / 15292MiB 
 .`                                 `/

The experience is pretty good. Only one very minor issue - no audio after reboot, have to select a different audio profile manually by click on the speaker icon, audio then works (and works well - speakers/sound quality is pretty good). A budget laptop that runs Arch almost perfectly (just the very minor audio issue). Even the fingerprint reader works for logging in and unlocking!


Does this Dell have CPPC enabled?

lscpu |grep cppc

How is power usage on idle and does it go very high with videos (even if hardware accelerated)? How is battery life on this device? 8845HS on my Asus is simply atrocious but I can't use PPD due to the lack of CPPC. Thanks Asus. I started having the same audio issues on my Dell 5515. I suspect Pipewire, as it's been fine until recently.

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#2410 2024-09-04 00:47:33

andyturfer
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Posts: 87

Re: Laptops which run Arch

magillos wrote:

Does this Dell have CPPC enabled?

Yes, it does:

$ lscpu |grep cppc
Flags:                                fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good amd_lbr_v2 nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid aperfmperf rapl pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt tce topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb bpext perfctr_llc mwaitx cpb cat_l3 cdp_l3 hw_pstate ssbd mba perfmon_v2 ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced vmmcall fsgsbase bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid cqm rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves cqm_llc cqm_occup_llc cqm_mbm_total cqm_mbm_local user_shstk avx512_bf16 clzero irperf xsaveerptr rdpru wbnoinvd cppc arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold v_vmsave_vmload vgif x2avic v_spec_ctrl vnmi avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid overflow_recov succor smca fsrm flush_l1d
magillos wrote:

How is power usage on idle and does it go very high with videos (even if hardware accelerated)?

When idle and with Firefox open, power usage is around 5W. With nothing open (except for the terminal running powerstat), it's usually around 3W (or just under 3W).

$ sudo powerstat
Running for 300.0 seconds (30 samples at 10.0 second intervals).
Power measurements will start in 180 seconds time.

  Time    User  Nice   Sys  Idle    IO  Run Ctxt/s  IRQ/s Fork Exec Exit  Watts
00:32:17   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    135    183    5    0    3   2.63 
00:32:27   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    168    228    5    2    3   2.67 
00:32:37   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    150    192    0    0    0   2.67 
00:32:47   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    123    168    0    0    1   2.61 
00:32:57   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    136    188    0    0    0   2.57 
00:33:07   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    125    178    0    0    0   2.55 
00:33:17   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    126    171    1    0    0   2.54 
00:33:27   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    152    216    2    0    6   2.55 
00:33:37   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    174    198    0    0    1   2.55 
00:33:47   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    142    200    1    1    3   2.58 
00:33:57   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    159    238    0    0   16   2.58 
00:34:07   0.1   0.0   0.1  99.8   0.0    2    182    227    2    1    0   2.57 
00:34:17   0.5   0.0   0.4  99.1   0.0    1   1084    993   61    2   48   3.28 
00:34:27   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.8   0.0    1    286    297    3    0    8   3.74 
00:34:37   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    283    254    0    0    0   4.08 
00:34:47   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    126    179    0    0    5   4.07 
00:34:57   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    152    190    0    0    0   4.06 
00:35:07   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    136    184    0    0    0   4.05 
00:35:17   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    119    165    1    0    0   3.64 
00:35:27   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    129    174    0    0    0   3.13 
00:35:37   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    145    184    0    0    0   2.93 
00:35:47   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    140    183    0    0    1   2.87 
00:35:57   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    150    201    0    0    0   2.83 
00:36:07   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    128    176    0    0    0   2.78 
00:36:17   0.1   0.0   0.1  99.8   0.0    1    243    276   10    2    4   2.69 
00:36:27   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    153    199    1    0    7   2.63 
00:36:37   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    141    179    0    0    0   2.58 
00:36:47   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    143    188    0    0    1   2.67 
00:36:57   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    147    193    0    0    0   2.64 
00:37:07   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0    1    131    178    0    0    0   2.58 
-------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ---- ---- ------ 
 Average   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0  1.0  186.9  226.0  3.1  0.3  3.6   2.94 
 GeoMean   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.9   0.0  1.0  161.9  208.3  0.0  0.0  0.0   2.90 
  StdDev   0.1   0.0   0.1   0.2   0.0  0.2  171.7  145.7 11.0  0.6  8.9   0.53 
-------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ---- ---- ------ 
 Minimum   0.0   0.0   0.1  99.1   0.0  1.0  119.1  165.3  0.0  0.0  0.0   2.54 
 Maximum   0.5   0.0   0.4  99.9   0.0  2.0 1084.0  992.7 61.0  2.0 48.0   4.08 
-------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ---- ---- ------ 
Summary:
System:   2.94 Watts on average with standard deviation 0.53

When watching a full HD YouTube video at 60FPS (like this one:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzXELHF3BvM), power usage hovers around 8.2W. A full HD YouTube video at 30FPS (like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ePaVk7TKGM) usually sits at around 6W (which is about the same when playing a Full HD h264 encoded video in VLC).

NOTE: It may not be that accurate, but I'm observing power usage with a small script I created:

while : 
do 
        current_now="$(cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/current_now)"
        voltage_now="$(cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/voltage_now)"
        watts=$(echo "scale=2;$current_now*$voltage_now*0.000000000001" | bc)
        printf "`date +%T` %0.2fW\n" $watts
        sleep 3
done

I wanted to try out one of AMD's power efficient chips with a 780m iGPU, which is why I bought a laptop with the R7 8040u (and without a dGPU). Really glad I did! Has been great so far, and even though it's only a 54Whr battery, it seems to last an entire working day (light/medium usage). I dunno, hard to say exactly what the battery life is as I haven't run any battery tests and I don't use it constantly throughout the day (I usually walk away for an hour or so here and there). At a guess, I'd say I can get a solid 8 hours out of it (browsing, some YouTube, some Flutter development with an Android Virtual Device open, some video calls etc...).

Right now I'm less than half charged, and it's estimating 5.7 hours (although I don't really have much running at the moment - just a Konsole window and Firefox):

$ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1
  native-path:          BAT1
  vendor:               BYD
  model:                DELL WV3K844Q
  serial:               13795
  power supply:         yes
  updated:              Wed 04 Sep 2024 01:26:53 BST (25 seconds ago)
  has history:          yes
  has statistics:       yes
  battery
    present:             yes
    rechargeable:        yes
    state:               discharging
    warning-level:       none
    energy:              24.765 Wh
    energy-empty:        0 Wh
    energy-full:         54 Wh
    energy-full-design:  54 Wh
    energy-rate:         4.32 W
    voltage:             15.087 V
    charge-cycles:       5
    time to empty:       5.7 hours
    percentage:          45%
    temperature:         29.1 degrees C
    capacity:            100%
    icon-name:          'battery-good-symbolic'
  History (charge):
    1725409583  45.000  discharging
  History (rate):
    1725409613  4.320   discharging
    1725409583  4.935   discharging
    1725409553  4.605   discharging

ALSO NOTE: All of the above has been done while in "Power Save" mode. I haven't tried "Balanced" or "Performance" modes yet.

This laptop has a USB-C with PD, and I have a large capacity power brick that could probably add another 8 hours of run time (haven't had a chance to test this yet). I might see if it's possible to upgrade to a 64Whr battery at some point in the future.

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#2411 2024-09-04 15:21:08

magillos
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Registered: 2010-07-03
Posts: 40

Re: Laptops which run Arch

Thanks for all the details!

That's really good performance you are reporting and on par with my Zen 2 Dell laptop if not slightly better. I'm now even more disappointment with Asus and how bad that laptop with 8845hs is performing. Maybe Ryzens need CPPC enabled for proper power saving in general and not only for PPD to work. I'm not sure. I tried using acpi-cpufreq but powesave mode makes laptop slow and power usage stays high with it anyway.
I think that script of yours should be fairly accurate and close to what powerstat is showing. I actually made Plasma widget that uses those files: https://github.com/magillos/Plasma-6-power-usage-widget.

I will be thinking hard about that Dell you have. I only wish they offered 120Hz screen with it and shame they removed second SSD slot in new Inspirons, but hardly any laptop has it now.


Thanks again!

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#2412 2024-09-04 20:10:13

andyturfer
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Posts: 87

Re: Laptops which run Arch

magillos wrote:

...I only wish they offered 120Hz screen with it...

Me too - I was reluctant to go back to 60Hz. However, Firefox with Wayland has (almost) pixel perfect scrolling, so the 60Hz panel doesn't bother me at all. I had to tweak a few Firefox settings because by default it scrolls too fast, but it's pretty much perfect now.

Forgot to mention - I also have a Legion 5 gen 5 (AMD Ryzen 7 4800H with an Nvidia GTX 1660TI). That didn't have an option to enable CPPC in the BIOS either, but I managed to turn it on using:

https://github.com/DavidS95/Smokeless_UMAF

Naturally, you need to be careful when using such tools - not sure if it invalidates warranty etc.. I've been thinking about running Smokeless_UMAF on my Dell to see if I can unlock the BIOS and increase the amount of RAM used for the iGPU. It's stuck on 512MB, and there's no option to change this in the BIOS. If it works, I'll slap 32GB of RAM into this laptop and will see how it does at light gaming with an external 165Hz monitor smile

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#2413 2024-09-04 21:59:56

magillos
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Posts: 40

Re: Laptops which run Arch

60Hz is fine. 120Hz is just nice and satisfying in comparison.

I tried UMAF and CPPC setting is not there. Some other settings, that could be it in disguise couldn't be activated. It could be the same problem that some other Asus laptops have, and CPPC works in Windows only. There is a lengthy ticket on that in kernel bugzilla with rather sad conclusion that it's up to Asus to fix their stuff. It won't happen as they don't care.

Just a warning; you may not be able to get into BIOS settings after you use UMAF on your Dell. It happened with my Inspiron when I changed the same setting you mentioned (it worked). New entries in EUFI have to be cleared with efibootmgr to bring BIOS back. Took me days to figure it out...
CPU in my Dell is too old for that, but there were some changes in 6.10 kernel to allow more memory allogation for GPU, but maybe that only works with ROCm: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.1 … Small-APUs

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#2414 2024-09-07 19:14:49

PeerK
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Registered: 2020-06-24
Posts: 32

Re: Laptops which run Arch

❯ fastfetch
                  -`                     me@home5
                 .o+`                    ------------
                `ooo/                    OS: Arch Linux x86_64
               `+oooo:                   Host: 83DK (Yoga 7 2-in-1 14AHP9)
              `+oooooo:                  Kernel: Linux 6.10.8-arch1-1
              -+oooooo+:                 Uptime: 34 mins
            `/:-:++oooo+:                Packages: 1575 (pacman)
           `/++++/+++++++:               Shell: zsh 5.9
          `/++++++++++++++:              Display (SDC4187): 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz (as 1834x1146) in 14″ [Built-in]
         `/+++ooooooooooooo/`            DE: KDE Plasma 6.1.4
        ./ooosssso++osssssso+`           WM: KWin (Wayland)
       .oossssso-````/ossssss+`          WM Theme: Breeze
      -osssssso.      :ssssssso.         Theme: Breeze (Dark) [Qt], Breeze-Dark [GTK2], Breeze [GTK3]
     :osssssss/        osssso+++.        Icons: candy-icons [Qt], candy-icons [GTK2/3/4]
    /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-        Font: NotoSans NF (11pt) [Qt], NotoSans NF (11pt) [GTK2/3/4]
  `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-      Cursor: WhiteSur (24px)
 `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:     Terminal: konsole 24.8.0
`++:.                           `-/+/    Terminal Font: Hack Nerd Font (12pt)
.`                                 `/    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 8840HS w/ Radeon 780M Graphics (16) @ 3.30 GHz
                                         GPU: AMD Phoenix3 [Integrated]
                                         Memory: 3.82 GiB / 13.41 GiB (29%)
                                         Swap: 0 B / 16.00 GiB (0%)
                                         Disk (/): 26.49 GiB / 195.80 GiB (14%) - ext4
                                         Disk (/home): 2.20 GiB / 97.87 GiB (2%) - ext4
                                         Disk (/rep): 664.89 GiB / 1.49 TiB (44%) - ext4
                                         Local IP (wlp2s0): 192.168.212.112/24
                                         Battery (L22M4PA1): 100% [AC Connected]
                                         Locale: de_DE.UTF-8

Works fine, except to the fingerprint-sensor - as always - from Shenzhen Goodix Tech Ltd. and some strange WiFi-issues that came imho with the last two or three kernels (AX210/AX1675, iwlwifi).

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#2415 2024-09-10 23:14:00

Zoom8160
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Registered: 2023-09-10
Posts: 7

Re: Laptops which run Arch

I've been using an HP Pavilion x360 14 G1 (Pentium 4415U processor) with Arch Linux for, like, two years maybe? Anyways, so far my experience has been great, and the only issues I've had are the ones anyone would have on a Linux system smile.

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#2416 2024-09-19 23:08:04

4rch.conf
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Re: Laptops which run Arch

.o+`                   -----------
                `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64
                `+oooo:                  Host: ROG Zephyrus G14 GA401IV_GA401IV 1.0
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 6.10.10-arch1-1
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 1 hour, 4 mins
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 1010 (pacman), 33 (flatpak)
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: bash 5.2.32
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1920x1080
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: Plasma 6.1.5
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: kwin
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Breeze-Dark [GTK2], Breeze [GTK3]
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: cyberpunk-technotronic-icon-theme [GTK2/3]
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Terminal: flatpak-session
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS with Radeon Graphics (16) @ 3.000GHz
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     GPU: AMD ATI Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Max-Q
`++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 4052MiB / 15405MiB


that one arch furry

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#2417 2024-09-22 16:33:59

Axo-Tak
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Registered: 2015-02-23
Posts: 7

Re: Laptops which run Arch

                                         accelshark@Thinky 
                   -`                    ----------------- 
                  .o+`                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                 `ooo/                   Host: ThinkPad W541 1.0 
                `+oooo:                  Kernel: 6.10.10-arch1-1 
               `+oooooo:                 Uptime: 26 mins 
               -+oooooo+:                Packages: 1068 (pacman) 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Shell: bash 5.2.32 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Resolution: 2880x1620 
           `/++++++++++++++:             DE: Xfce 4.18 (x11) 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           WM: Xfwm4 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM Theme: Default-hdpi 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Adwaita-dark [GTK2/3] 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: elementary [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Cursor: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     Terminal Font: Agave Nerd Font Mono 16 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    CPU: Intel i7-4712MQ (8) @ 3.3GHz 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   GPU: NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 
 .`                                 `/   GPU: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor 
                                         Memory: 2.92 GiB / 31.27 GiB (9%) 
                                         Network: Wifi6 
                                         Bluetooth: Intel Corp. Bluetooth wireless interface 
                                         BIOS: coreboot 0.0 (07/21/2024) 

Using a ThinkPad W541 with Libreboot and a CPU with a lower TDP target nowadays. The i7-4810MQ CPU it came with had bugged integrated graphics, so I swapped the CPU for another one.

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#2418 2024-10-05 14:21:15

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Registered: 2024-07-27
Posts: 45

Re: Laptops which run Arch

                   -`                    moll@f 
                  .o+`                   ------ 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Host: ZenBook UX434IQ_UM433IQ 1.0 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 6.11.1-arch1-1 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 22 secs 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 748 (pacman) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: bash 5.2.37 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1920x1080 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: Plasma 6.1.5 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: KWin 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Adwaita [GTK3] 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: Adwaita [GTK3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Terminal: konsole 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 4700U with Radeon Graphics (8) @ 2.000GHz 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     GPU: AMD ATI Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX350 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 929MiB / 7357MiB 
 .`                                 `/

Original BIOS is very limited, though I am stuck to it.
One can setup LUKS and/or TPM2, but I didn't.
Numpad driver from GitHub messes the startup. Do not reboot until you set it up.
My theme is breeze-dark, this is just neofetch going nuts because of FF.
I use X11 with compositor. Everything runs smooth and nice.
Power thresholds, keyboard light, camera etc. - everything works by default.
Battery drains faster than on W10, but the difference isn't urgently big.
Powertop tries to convince me that everything is ok, and I believe him.

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#2419 2024-10-07 05:51:54

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Registered: 2024-10-06
Posts: 3

Re: Laptops which run Arch

Samsung Chromebook 4. Tried some other distros but was having hardware issues. Arch works.
I like the rolling release feature of Arch. Running Fedora on desktop and Debian on the HP laptop.

                   -`                    leopard@Loepard 
                  .o+`                   --------------- 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Host: Bluebird rev6 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 6.11.2-arch1-1 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 9 hours, 19 mins 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 964 (pacman) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: bash 5.2.37 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1366x768 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: Plasma 6.1.5 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: KWin 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Breeze-Dark [GTK2], Breeze [GTK3] 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: breeze-dark [GTK2/3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Terminal: konsole 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       CPU: Intel Celeron N4000 (2) @ 2.600GHz 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     GPU: Intel GeminiLake [UHD Graphics 600] 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    Memory: 2457MiB / 3779MiB 
 `++:.                           `-/+/
 .`                                 `/                           
                                                                 

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