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#1 Yesterday 00:34:06

Gregory_M
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Registered: 2024-11-30
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Considering Arch Linux

Hi, I'm not new to Linux, but am considering Arch.

(Disambiguation: Here, I'm using DM to refer to Display Manager and
WM to refer to Window Manager / Compositor [e.g. OpenBox, labwc, sway])

Here are some of the things that I am seeking:

  1. systemd-boot

  2. Clean and configurable e.g. DMs, WMs, themes, lightweight desktop

  3. Understandable (at a basic level) boot process from boot to DM/WM

  4. Ability to install latest versions of clang, gcc, rust etc.

  5. Up-to-date and available documentation (or links to it)

  6. WiFi support a plus

  7. Simple package management (does Arch use package repositories?)

  8. Not strictly tied to or dependent upon a particular heavyweight shell, e.g. "bash"

  9. A community that agrees with much of this list smile

Regarding #3: What starts what? E.g. what starts the DM?, ...what starts X or the Wayland Compositor?
Can we have a menu to use OpenBox (X11) one session then use sway (or labwc) Wayland for another
session? The ability to control and understand these processes is helpful. I say basic level, because I
don't need in depth information about each part of the boot, I simply like to know how the various
pieces are connected. E.g. What starts up the Display Manager, etc.?

Regarding #4: For example, if the system uses a particular version of gcc, I would like to be able to install
a newer version of gcc. But installation alongside the system default is fine, not seeking to update the
system version if the system requires a specific version. Perhaps Arch has a better approach to this, such
that this concern (#4) is N/A.

Regarding #5: The documentation for my current distribution on the distribution's website is incomplete and out-of-date.
I'm technical but I prefer not to spend time scrounging around for basic information. Even links to information is fine.

Regarding #6: I downloaded and installed custom driver for LinkSys (6300 V1, not V2).
Performed routine system update, and WiFi stopped working.
I expect to be able to get it working again but I prefer not to spend time chasing side issues like this.

Regarding #8: Not critical, but I use zsh for interactive shell, and I think that a lightweight system shell
(e.g. non-interactive, boot process, etc.) is good.

I produce a web server software product, so an environment for the development tools is key.

Excited to have found Arch because it may be the right distribution for me.
Thanks Kindly!

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#2 Yesterday 01:16:23

Allan
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Re: Considering Arch Linux

All are possible if not the default.

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#3 Yesterday 01:53:44

dakota
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Registered: 2016-05-20
Posts: 337

Re: Considering Arch Linux

Welcome,

Gregory_M wrote:

3. Understandable (at a basic level) boot process from boot to DM/WM

Arch Boot Process

Answers for all your questions are  available in the Wiki, but individual pages can contain hundreds of links. If you are hitting something totally new, it can takes days to read through all the material. That's both good and bad, obviously. wink

Cheers,

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#4 Yesterday 02:02:54

Gregory_M
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Registered: 2024-11-30
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Re: Considering Arch Linux

Thanks! The key is up-to-date and available.

I like customizability/understandability to save time and focus on my work and not my distribution. At the same time though, I don't like bloated desktop environments that pamper but also hide everything, so I use OpenBox and also am interested in labwc and sway. Are those popular here?

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#5 Yesterday 02:24:07

ewaller
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Re: Considering Arch Linux

Gregory_M wrote:

Thanks! The key is up-to-date and available.

I like customizability/understandability to save time and focus on my work and not my distribution. At the same time though, I don't like bloated desktop environments that pamper but also hide everything, so I use OpenBox and also am interested in labwc and sway. Are those popular here?

First, congratulations on getting a response from Allan on with your first post;  that is an honor.

The only other Distro with more flexibility than Arch is Gentoo.  Neither are for those who are unwilling to study and learn,  I think you will do just fine.


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#6 Yesterday 02:55:13

Gregory_M
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Re: Considering Arch Linux

Perfect.

...congratulations on getting a response from Allan...

That fact wasn't lost on me, I assure you, I was still absorbing a few additional details information before answering.
I recently migrated from Windows, and when looking into mingw for clang and gcc, I was
informed to use pacman (Msys2), so it's even used outside of Arch which speaks for pacman.

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#7 Yesterday 02:57:19

Gregory_M
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Re: Considering Arch Linux

Thank you kindly @Allan, @ewaller, and @dakota! I plan to install Arch.

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