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#76 2025-01-07 21:16:30

kclisp
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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

mesa-test-git 24.3.0_devel.195300.b01d76027d3-1 seems fine.

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#77 2025-01-07 21:39:50

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics


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#78 2025-01-07 21:52:18

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

mesa-test-git 24.3.0_devel.195417.1c156f7fa9a-1 is broken.

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#79 2025-01-07 22:40:32

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics


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#80 2025-01-07 23:33:33

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

mesa-test-git 24.3.0_devel.195358.1e0c502a77c-1 seems fine.

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#81 2025-01-07 23:53:03

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

29 revisions left

[5b8f27d3d7503c501e7b7b12f37ff7feafc37b56] freedreno/ci: Uprev kernel to 6.11

I'm going to sleep soon, so this is last one for now.


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#82 2025-01-08 00:01:50

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

mesa-test-git 24.3.0_devel.195387.5b8f27d3d75-1 is broken.

Sounds good. At this rate, we should finish bisecting tomorrow.

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#83 2025-01-08 09:58:05

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics


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#84 2025-01-08 10:06:57

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

Upps, I missed the show. Still using

mesa-test-git-25.0.0_devel.199748.72351afe24f

without problems, but as explained before, the number won't tell you all ...

So I lean back until anyone gives me hints how to help.

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#85 2025-01-08 10:25:12

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

kclisp was able to break that version, can you try putting a heavy load on the graphics card to verify ?

This is how kclisp did it

I believe I've found a quick way to reproduce the issue. I use i3; I start two terminals in one workspace, and hold Super + Shift + Space on one of them, which rapidly alternates it between a floating window and a tiling window, producing a lot of graphical window resizing. This can produce a freeze on broken builds in a few seconds.


Quick switching betwee graphics-heavy applications (especially if they're on different virtual workspaces) is also worth a try.


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#86 2025-01-08 11:45:39

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

I don't want to spoil the party ...

Lone_Wolf wrote:

kclisp was able to break that version, can you try putting a heavy load on the graphics card to verify ?
.

Would firing up up to 8 instances of glmark2 count for "heavy load"? They are running in the background while I am writing this. Up to now, as during the last sessions yesterday and the day before, nothing unexpected here with

pacman -Qs mesa
local/glu 9.0.3-2.1
    Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/lib32-glu 9.0.3-2.1
    Mesa OpenGL utility library (32 bits)
local/lib32-mesa 1:24.2.7-1.1
    Open-source OpenGL drivers - 32-bit
local/mesa-demos 9.0.0-5.1
    Mesa demos
local/mesa-test-git 25.0.0_devel.199748.72351afe24f-1
    an open-source implementation of the OpenGL specification, stripped down git
    version
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-5.1
    Essential Mesa utilities

Writing the rest of this message with this online gpu stress test running in the background really (!!!) slow things down nearly to be unusable, but no freeze.

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#87 2025-01-08 12:04:36

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

Oh dear.
In normal operation, it never took me longer than 10 hours for the system to freeze.
If the 25.0.0. test version is still online, I can also test it if necessary. But this cannot start before late afternoon (utc+1).
Maybe other users can participate. Just to be on the safe side.

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#88 2025-01-08 12:14:16

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

orbit-oc wrote:

In normal operation, it never took me longer than 10 hours for the system to freeze.

This was my observation too. So up to now, I felt quit happy with this version. 24.3.0 from the repo failed within a few hours while listening to an audio stream.


orbit-oc wrote:

Maybe other users can participate. Just to be on the safe side

I would be very happen to see this happen. My system is no fresh install - in fact I don't remember when I set it up and it migrates from pc to pc over the years. So some more test results would rule out the possibility of chasing ghosts.

The link is still online:
very recent trunk commit 72351afe24f

Last edited by bernd_b (2025-01-08 15:26:40)

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#89 2025-01-08 12:56:42

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

> Would firing up up to 8 instances of glmark2 count for "heavy load"?

This hasn't worked for me, and neither has the aforementioned in-browser GPU stress test, or running multiple instances of vkmark. I've not yet tried the i3 method, but attempting something that sounds similar within GNOME has not reproduced the issue. I can spend more time experimenting later today.

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#90 2025-01-08 12:58:34

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

In case it's helpful in identifying the issue, I've shared the complete specs of my system and associated logs at https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/ … te_2727135

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#91 2025-01-08 13:41:31

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

The recent posts strongly suggest there is more then 1 bug present.

kclisp : you are sofar the only one who has found a reproducable way to produce a crash.
Continue the bisecting tests, that way we can atleast find the cause of the bug you can reproduce .

All others : keep trying to break very recent trunk commit 72351afe24f in a reproducible way.


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#92 2025-01-08 15:39:44

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

I'm now using mesa-test-git 25.0.0_devel.199748.72351afe24f-1 with AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (Picasso/Raven 2)...

$ inxi -G
Graphics:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Picasso/Raven 2 [Radeon Vega
    Series / Radeon Mobile Series] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.15 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: modesetting dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,radeonsi,swrast
    platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.0.0-devel
    renderer: AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (radeonsi raven ACO DRM 3.54
    6.6.69-1-lts)
  API: Vulkan v: 1.4.303 drivers: N/A surfaces: xcb,xlib

Test
1)
The side 'Stress My GPU' (gpu only) on https://mprep.info/gpu/ doesn't stress the vega 8 gpu enouph (monitored by nvtop - https://github.com/Syllo/nvtop)...
2)
Quickly switching workspaces with 'ctrl+alt+cursor right/left' (Xfce) shows no effect...

Last edited by orbit-oc (2025-01-08 16:13:46)

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#93 2025-01-08 15:50:05

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

mesa-test-git 24.3.0_devel.195372.40d9616bd3b-1 seems fine.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were multiple bugs. For reference, I'm using AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx (Raven Ridge).

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#94 2025-01-08 16:22:16

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

@bernd_b

just to check, did you restart your system?

I'm not sure how much GPU load by itself affects the frequency of freezes - maybe certain operations are more prone? The reproducer I use only uses around 30% of the GPU.

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#95 2025-01-08 16:39:31

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics


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#96 2025-01-08 16:44:42

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

mesa-test-git 24.3.0_devel.195379.653bcd85e02-1 is broken.

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#97 2025-01-08 16:56:48

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics


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#98 2025-01-08 16:59:34

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

mesa-test-git 24.3.0_devel.195375.0112fd7d40e-1 seems fine.

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#99 2025-01-08 17:13:02

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics


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#100 2025-01-08 17:16:05

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

mesa-test-git 24.3.0_devel.195377.c99b55092ff-1 seems fine.

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