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#1 2025-02-16 10:30:16

skawzy
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System fonts

Does anyone know how we can use Windows font or very very similar font on Arch Linux?

Is it possible for Arch Linux to render Windows fonts both locally on the system and when browsing the internet? For example, the 'Poppins' font appears differently on Windows compared to Arch Linux, especially when visiting websites.

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#2 2025-02-16 10:50:53

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Re: System fonts

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages?K=ttf-ms

the 'Poppins' font appears differently on Windows compared to Arch Linux, especially when visiting websites.

Don't paraphrase, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855
Also Poppins is a google font, it has nothing to do with window.
Chances are you're not using it at all, then?

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#3 2025-02-16 10:55:06

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Re: System fonts

The ttf-liberation package offers metrically identical replacements for Arial, Times New Roman & Courier New but they work better with Freetype's hinting than the official MS versions, which are very old now.


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#4 2025-02-16 13:01:28

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Re: System fonts

seth wrote:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages?K=ttf-ms

the 'Poppins' font appears differently on Windows compared to Arch Linux, especially when visiting websites.

Don't paraphrase, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855
Also Poppins is a google font, it has nothing to do with window.
Chances are you're not using it at all, then?

Poppins is just and example. And yes, it looks different. Arch rendering fonts different then Windows.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The ttf-liberation package offers metrically identical replacements for Arial, Times New Roman & Courier New but they work better with Freetype's hinting than the official MS versions, which are very old now.

So it is possible to have the same fonts on programs and app on like we have on Windows ?

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#5 2025-02-16 16:31:47

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Re: System fonts

And yes, it looks different. Arch rendering fonts different then Windows.

Have you read the thread I linked?
Maybe start by linking some screenshots of what you actually see, then post the output of "fc-match Poppins"

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#6 2025-02-17 07:39:35

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Re: System fonts

skawzy wrote:

So it is possible to have the same fonts on programs and app on like we have on Windows ?

Yes, it's possible but they will still look different. Windows renders on the spidery side whereas Linux prefers a slight blur. Which is "best" depends entirely on personal preference.


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#7 2025-02-17 08:16:50

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#8 2025-02-17 17:46:11

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Re: System fonts

In my experience the hinting only changes the rendering very slightly. So slightly that it might in fact be imaginary. Windows has a GUI to tweak font rendering and that works in a similar fashion, with very little difference between the offered extremes.


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#9 2025-02-17 21:08:34

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Re: System fonts

I recently ran into Qt preferring xrdb over fontconfig what made me figure that I had a stale subpixel hinting setting my xrdb what lead to borderline unbearable results on a 1366x768 panel (for HiDPI you can opt to switch off hinting and antialiasing and rely on the sheer amount of pixels, though you get still marginally better results because subpixel rendering will raise the resolution by a magnitude)

There's certainly a dependency on the specific font and BCI ./. autohinting, but the only context where configuring the hintings had "very slightly" ("zilch") impact is/was gnomestuff:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3787
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/-/ … ote_851694

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