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Aivar

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Registered: 2025-02-07

Posts: 3

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

linux 6.13.6.arch1-1
mesa 1:25.0.1-1
works without complaints and seems stable.

cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/1/amdgpu_gpu_recover doesn't freeze the system, although it adds errors:

amdgpu: psp gfx command UNLOAD_TA(0x2) failed and response status is (0x117)
[drm:amdgpu_ib_ring_tests [amdgpu]] *ERROR* IB test failed on comp_1.1.0 (-110).

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OJaksch

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From: Germany

Registered: 2016-02-23

Posts: 40

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

@OJaksch
llvm 20.1.0 has been released. The llvm and llvm-libs packages will not be long in coming.
As soon as they are released in the arch repositories, you will no longer be able to use the mesa-test-git packages.
https://llvm.org/

Oi, thanks for that hint!

lpr1

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Registered: 2017-10-08

Posts: 115

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

@OJaksch
llvm 20.1.0 has been released. The llvm and llvm-libs packages will not be long in coming.
As soon as they are released in the arch repositories, you will no longer be able to use the mesa-test-git packages.
https://llvm.org/

@lpr
thanks. mesa 25.0.1 from /testing and try it out? Or wait until it is pushed to /Extra.

I\m waiting, I'm not bothering with this nonsense anymore, I don't have nerves for it

pacmancrashedagain

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Registered: 2024-12-14

Posts: 31

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

Mesa 25 is on the normal repos now, so everything should be normal without any special versions now.

orbit-oc

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Registered: 2024-12-15

Posts: 85

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

linux-lts-6.12.19-1-x86_64
mesa-1:25.0.1-2-x86_64 | vulkan-radeon-1:25.0.1-2-x86_64
llvm-libs-19.1.7-1-x86_64
linux-firmware 20250311.b69d4b74-2
amd-ucode 20250311.b69d4b74-2

Since yesterday mesa 25.0.1-2 is also in the testing repos of Debian, so one can hope that mesa 25.0.x will be included in Debian 13 trixie. Debian 12 uses mesa 22.3.6/24.2.8.
This could also get the cow off the ice for the other distributions.

Since my enquiry [#672] was not answered here, I assume, like @pacmancrashedagain, that the problems discussed here have been solved.

My criticism of the handling of this pervasive bug remains and I have drawn conclusions from it, but they did not begin with this.  I am a little worried - Linux is the best existing operating system for me.

Without @Lone_Wolf I would have been lost. Thanks also to @pacmancrashedagain for starting this thread.

Berni341

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Registered: 2024-12-09

Posts: 6

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

I think this topic can be marked as "solved". After ~half a year of using old versions of mesa and llvm-libs the computer seems stable and free of errors. Thanks to all contributors.

Last edited by Berni341 (2025-03-17 12:34:07)

orbit-oc

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Registered: 2024-12-15

Posts: 85

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

...Before that happens, I would have liked to know whether mesa has revised the fix again as announced or will revise it after a fix has also been introduced in the kernel (#649).

Nicky726

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From: Czech Republic

Registered: 2008-02-15

Posts: 149

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

Since the upgrade to Linux 6.13.5, I have not seen any issues. About 14 days stable uptime with 24.3.4-1 mesa, and about 7 days stable uptime with 25.0.1-2 mesa and Linux 6.13.7. Seems solved, knock, knock.

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pacmancrashedagain

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Registered: 2024-12-14

Posts: 31

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

I'm just checking if everyone has been stable lately, i've had a couple of lockups since Mesa 25.0.3 and i haven't found anything in the logs, although there's been a new version of the qt6-webengine which looks like it has some issues and i'm using qutebrowser so it might be that.

tiwenty

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Registered: 2024-12-26

Posts: 1

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

I had the problem since the start of this topic, and have no problem since the fixes have been merged. Currently on 25.0.3.

beroal

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Registered: 2009-06-07

Posts: 381

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

Stable.

linux 6.13.8.arch1-1
linux-headers 6.13.8.arch1-1
linux-firmware 20250311.b69d4b74-3
glibc 2.41+r9+ga900dbaf70f0-1
mesa 1:25.0.2-2

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ZacharyFoxx

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Registered: 2021-09-07

Posts: 3

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

Apparently, the problem is back.

I'm not using Arch Linux, but a distro derived from it, Manjaro.

On 04/13/2025 mesa was updated to version 1:25.0.3-1 and today my laptop crashed in the same way as before. On mesa 25.0.2 everything was fine, I even spent whole days without any problems, today after just over 3 hours a crash,

kclisp

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Registered: 2025-01-04

Posts: 38

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

I can't reproduce a crash with my reproducer with mesa 1:25.0.3-1 and linux 6.14.2.arch1-1.

heebo

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Registered: 2015-06-16

Posts: 9

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

I still have also this problem with Manjaro (testing).
The issue only occurs after the monitors have been turned off by power management.
In other words, when the monitors wake up again, there's a risk that these freezes happen while watching videos.
Still, it seems to be pretty random.

V1del

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Registered: 2012-10-16

Posts: 24,279

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

Manjaro is not Arch and not supported here, ask Manjaro devs.

FWIW since this is a bunch of interaction on the kernel level as well that is going to be relevant, make sure you are on an up to date kernel.

ZacharyFoxx

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Registered: 2021-09-07

Posts: 3

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

Hello,

Yes, I know that Arch is not Manjaro, but since distributions derived from other distributions use many of the core packages (Linux Mint/Ubuntu/Debian for example), this was one of the few places where I found an in-depth discussion of the case, including finding here the temporary solution of keeping mesa and other packages at version 24.2.7.

The intention here was just to leave another report that the problem may still be present, but not as common.

Commenting now as a Linux user in general, it is worrying that a problem that affects Kernel 6.12, which is LTS, and AMD cards that have the opensource driver, has passed me by silently. I did not find anything openly discussed, alerts on sites like Phoronix, I found it by searching through forums, and again, the most talked about thing I found was here. I don't know if this was because it probably affected more distros with rolling releases or those who use unstable versions of the distributions, but it is still a concern. At least I couldn't find any material on a website or any guidance from any distro about this problem.

Anyway, I would like to thank everyone who has participated in this topic so far, as the information provided here has been very helpful.

Thank you.

Mechanicus

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Registered: 2025-01-13

Posts: 121

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

@ZacharyFoxx and @heebo would you mind describing your hardware configuration?

Last edited by Mechanicus (2025-04-15 17:03:18)

orbit-oc

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Registered: 2024-12-15

Posts: 85

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

I don't know if this was because it probably affected more distros with rolling releases or those who use unstable versions of the distributions, but it is still a concern. At least I couldn't find any material on a website or any guidance from any distro about this problem.

Manjaro had held on to mesa 24.2.7/24.2.8 for a long time and was therefore only affected by the bug for a short time before the fix was at least included in the kernel. By the way, Manjaro (Philip Müller) packages mesa themselves, so that it does not completely match the arch package. The reason for this was the removal of hardware acceleration for AMD graphics cards.

My system (arch) has no more problems since the kernel got a fix (since linux 6.13.5 and linux-lts 6.12.17). mesa itself had left us out in the rain for months.

However, I would still like to know whether the mesa fix has been revised later, as it was announced.
Does anyone know anything about this? In the event of a change, the stability would have to be checked again...

Lone_Wolf

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Registered: 2005-10-04

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Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

However, I would still like to know whether the mesa fix has been revised later, as it was announced.
Does anyone know anything about this? In the event of a change, the stability would have to be checked again...

MR 33248 with the fix only changed 1 file , src/gallium/drivers/radeonsi/si_pipe.c 

Keep an eye on the git history of commits changing si_pipe.c to verify if there have been related changes.

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heebo

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Registered: 2015-06-16

Posts: 9

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

@ZacharyFoxx and @heebo would you mind describing your hardware configuration?

Of course.

System:
  Host: heebo-desktop Kernel: 6.13.9-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.3.4 Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: X300M-STX serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: P2.10 date: 11/21/2024
CPU:
  Info: 6-core model: AMD Ryzen 5 4600G with Radeon Graphics bits: 64
    type: MT MCP cache: L2: 3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2381 min/max: 400/4308 cores: 1: 2381 2: 2381 3: 2381
    4: 2381 5: 2381 6: 2381 7: 2381 8: 2381 9: 2381 10: 2381 11: 2381 12: 2381
Graphics:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Renoir [Radeon Vega Series /
    Radeon Mobile Series] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
    compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: modesetting
    dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1: 1920x1080~60Hz 2: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,radeonsi,swrast
    platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.0.3-arch1.1
    renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (radeonsi renoir ACO DRM 3.61
    6.13.9-1-MANJARO)
  API: Vulkan v: 1.4.309 drivers: radv surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland
  Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
    de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: amdgpu_top,radeontop
    wl: wayland-info x11: xdpyinfo,xprop
Audio:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Renoir Radeon High Definition
    Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h/19h/1ah HD Audio
    driver: snd_hda_intel
  API: ALSA v: k6.13.9-1-MANJARO status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.4.1 status: active
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    driver: r8169
  IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 9c:6b:00:3e:4c:8b
  Device-2: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168NGW [Stone Peak] driver: iwlwifi
  IF: wlp3s0 state: down mac: fa:e2:a0:8d:6d:9b
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Wireless-AC 3168 Bluetooth driver: btusb type: USB
  Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 state: up address: F4:26:79:FB:71:8C bt-v: 4.2
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 704.25 GiB used: 184.52 GiB (26.2%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: KIOXIA model: EXCERIA G2 SSD size: 465.76 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Crucial model: CT128MX100SSD1 size: 119.24 GiB
  ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Crucial model: CT128MX100SSD1 size: 119.24 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 448.43 GiB used: 78.64 GiB (17.5%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 299.4 MiB used: 31.3 MiB (10.4%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8.8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 43.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 37.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
  Memory: total: 16 GiB note: est. available: 13.51 GiB used: 6.1 GiB (45.2%)
  Processes: 360 Uptime: 2h 20m Shell: Zsh inxi: 3.3.38

orbit-oc

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Registered: 2024-12-15

Posts: 85

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

Keep an eye on the git history of commits changing si_pipe.c to verify if there have been related changes.

thanks a lot!

ZacharyFoxx

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Registered: 2021-09-07

Posts: 3

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

@ZacharyFoxx and @heebo would you mind describing your hardware configuration?

Here are:

System:
  Host: nitro Kernel: 6.12.21-4-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 Distro: Manjaro Linux
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GA107M [GeForce RTX 3050 Mobile] driver: nvidia
    v: 570.133.07
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Rembrandt [Radeon 680M]
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu,nvidia
    unloaded: modesetting,nouveau dri: radeonsi
    gpu: amdgpu,nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: <missing: xdpyinfo/xrandr>
    resolution: 1: 1920x1080 2: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.0.3-arch1.1
    renderer: AMD Radeon 660M (radeonsi rembrandt LLVM 19.1.7 DRM 3.61
    6.12.21-4-MANJARO)
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo de: xfce4-display-settings
    gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi x11: xprop

V1del

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Registered: 2012-10-16

Posts: 24,279

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

The issue is a combination between kernel and mesa, you ideally need both a more recent kernel and a recent mesa. Test a 6.14 kernel. -- or even a newer LTS as well, you're two patch versions out..

Last edited by V1del (2025-04-17 16:51:29)

Mechanicus

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Registered: 2025-01-13

Posts: 121

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

Thanks @ZacharyFoxx and @heebo for sharing! Your configurations were not affected neither by the change in the kernel nor by the change in mesa 25. If you can compile the custom kernel, I can provide the fix to try. Or I can provide the kernel build, but since I'm using ArchLinux, I'm not sure it will work flawless on Manjaro.

heebo

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Registered: 2015-06-16

Posts: 9

Re: Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics

The issue is a combination between kernel and mesa, you ideally need both a more recent kernel and a recent mesa. Test a 6.14 kernel. -- or even a newer LTS as well, you're two patch versions out..

Yes, I just find out that there is 6.14 kernel available and installed it. There is also 6.15rc, but left that out for now.
I have no idea how to compile kernel myself, so better leave that for now.