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#26 2025-06-13 21:10:19
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
1. try to disable c-states in the UEFI
2. test a completely different software stack (eg. *slightly* older ubuntu live system) and see whether you get the GPU to reset there. The other thread is pretty similar, so this might actually be a software problem (likely kernel or mesa)
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#27 2025-06-14 19:35:54
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
1. try to disable c-states in the UEFI
2. test a completely different software stack (eg. *slightly* older ubuntu live system) and see whether you get the GPU to reset there. The other thread is pretty similar, so this might actually be a software problem (likely kernel or mesa)
I am not sure if I have C-State in my BIOS. These are the pages with power related settings, is any of this what you mean?
These are two images of the BIOS settings:
- https://0x0.st/86-2.jpg
- https://0x0.st/86-p.jpg
is popOS! 22.04 good? or shall I take ubuntu 22.04? or more recent?
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#28 2025-06-14 20:15:41
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
is popOS! 22.04 good? or shall I take ubuntu 22.04? or more recent?
It really doesn't matter, just make sure that HW acceleration is actually invoked.
Nothing there looks like c-states, ppc-adjustment might be interesting…
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#29 2025-06-15 15:19:14
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
is popOS! 22.04 good? or shall I take ubuntu 22.04? or more recent?
It really doesn't matter, just make sure that HW acceleration is actually invoked.
Nothing there looks like c-states, ppc-adjustment might be interesting…
I ran popOS! 22.04 LTS, and I got interesting results.
- if I ran a youtube video on firefox, it works without a problem. (with hardware acceleration enabled)
- when I ran a video using mpv --hwdec=auto, it crashes.
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#30 2025-06-19 13:41:06
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
Means FF on popOS! was likely simply not accelerated?
It also means there is *very* much likely a problem with the hardware. I suspect the moment the APU draws some power and starves the CPU.
Can you cause likewise freezes w/o the video HWA, eg. by running some more demanding GL/vulkan demo? (or game)?
Have you looked into the PPC adjustment setting?
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#31 2025-06-22 18:18:03
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
Means FF on popOS! was likely simply not accelerated?
It also means there is *very* much likely a problem with the hardware. I suspect the moment the APU draws some power and starves the CPU.Can you cause likewise freezes w/o the video HWA, eg. by running some more demanding GL/vulkan demo? (or game)?
Have you looked into the PPC adjustment setting?
I ran https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition and https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gputest, they both ran fine without any crashes.
I look into the PPC adjustment settings and see if I see any differences.
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#32 2025-06-26 15:38:49
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
There's https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=306510 - I don't quite yet know how to make sense out of it, but apparently the crash only happens when an external output is in use.
Can you confirm that?
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#33 2025-06-27 17:17:48
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
There's https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=306510 - I don't quite yet know how to make sense out of it, but apparently the crash only happens when an external output is in use.
Can you confirm that?
I have tried the different P_States but that didn't change anything.
I have a minipc and only an integrated gpu, so there is only 1 way to connect it to a monitor.
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#34 2025-06-27 19:11:26
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
Please check whether the monitor is 10bpc (edid-decode, xrandr --props will list that, too) - do you have another monitor?
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#35 2025-06-28 10:56:56
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
Please check whether the monitor is 10bpc (edid-decode, xrandr --props will list that, too) - do you have another monitor?
I am using a single monitor
❯ find /sys/class/drm/*/edid -exec edid-decode {} \; 2>/dev/null
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-1/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-2/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-3/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-4/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-5/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-6/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-7/edid' was empty.
edid-decode (hex):
00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 10 ac 96 a1 4c 43 49 30
0c 1f 01 03 80 3c 22 78 ea 50 95 a8 54 4e a5 26
0f 50 54 a5 4b 00 71 4f 81 80 a9 c0 a9 40 d1 c0
e1 00 01 01 01 01 08 e8 00 30 f2 70 5a 80 b0 58
8a 00 55 50 21 00 00 1e 00 00 00 ff 00 43 36 50
31 4d 34 33 0a 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 fc 00 44
45 4c 4c 20 53 32 37 32 31 51 53 0a 00 00 00 fd
00 28 3c 82 89 3c 00 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 d0
02 03 45 f1 54 61 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 10 11 12
14 15 16 1f 20 21 5d 5e 5f 23 09 07 07 83 01 00
00 6d 03 0c 00 10 00 38 44 20 00 60 03 02 01 67
d8 5d c4 01 78 80 01 e4 0f 01 00 00 68 1a 00 00
01 01 28 3c e6 56 5e 00 a0 a0 a0 29 50 30 20 35
00 55 50 21 00 00 1a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2e
----------------
Block 0, Base EDID:
EDID Structure Version & Revision: 1.3
Vendor & Product Identification:
Manufacturer: DEL
Model: 41366
Serial Number: 810107724 (0x3049434c)
Made in: week 12 of 2021
Basic Display Parameters & Features:
Digital display
Maximum image size: 60 cm x 34 cm
Gamma: 2.20
DPMS levels: Standby Suspend Off
RGB color display
First detailed timing is the preferred timing
Color Characteristics:
Red : 0.6572, 0.3291
Green: 0.3046, 0.6445
Blue : 0.1503, 0.0595
White: 0.3134, 0.3291
Established Timings I & II:
IBM : 720x400 70.081663 Hz 9:5 31.467 kHz 28.320000 MHz
DMT 0x04: 640x480 59.940476 Hz 4:3 31.469 kHz 25.175000 MHz
DMT 0x06: 640x480 75.000000 Hz 4:3 37.500 kHz 31.500000 MHz
DMT 0x09: 800x600 60.316541 Hz 4:3 37.879 kHz 40.000000 MHz
DMT 0x0b: 800x600 75.000000 Hz 4:3 46.875 kHz 49.500000 MHz
DMT 0x10: 1024x768 60.003840 Hz 4:3 48.363 kHz 65.000000 MHz
DMT 0x12: 1024x768 75.028582 Hz 4:3 60.023 kHz 78.750000 MHz
DMT 0x24: 1280x1024 75.024675 Hz 5:4 79.976 kHz 135.000000 MHz
Standard Timings:
DMT 0x15: 1152x864 75.000000 Hz 4:3 67.500 kHz 108.000000 MHz
DMT 0x23: 1280x1024 60.019740 Hz 5:4 63.981 kHz 108.000000 MHz
DMT 0x53: 1600x900 60.000000 Hz 16:9 60.000 kHz 108.000000 MHz (RB)
DMT 0x33: 1600x1200 60.000000 Hz 4:3 75.000 kHz 162.000000 MHz
DMT 0x52: 1920x1080 60.000000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 148.500000 MHz
GTF : 2048x1280 60.000000 Hz 16:10 79.500 kHz 221.328000 MHz
Detailed Timing Descriptors:
DTD 1: 3840x2160 60.000000 Hz 16:9 135.000 kHz 594.000000 MHz (597 mm x 336 mm)
Hfront 176 Hsync 88 Hback 296 Hpol P
Vfront 8 Vsync 10 Vback 72 Vpol P
Display Product Serial Number: 'C6P1M43'
Display Product Name: 'DELL S2721QS'
Display Range Limits:
Monitor ranges (GTF): 40-60 Hz V, 130-137 kHz H, max dotclock 600 MHz
Extension blocks: 1
Checksum: 0xd0
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Block 1, CTA-861 Extension Block:
Revision: 3
Underscans IT Video Formats by default
Basic audio support
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4
Supports YCbCr 4:2:2
Native detailed modes: 1
Video Data Block:
VIC 97: 3840x2160 60.000000 Hz 16:9 135.000 kHz 594.000000 MHz
VIC 1: 640x480 59.940476 Hz 4:3 31.469 kHz 25.175000 MHz
VIC 2: 720x480 59.940060 Hz 4:3 31.469 kHz 27.000000 MHz
VIC 3: 720x480 59.940060 Hz 16:9 31.469 kHz 27.000000 MHz
VIC 4: 1280x720 60.000000 Hz 16:9 45.000 kHz 74.250000 MHz
VIC 5: 1920x1080i 60.000000 Hz 16:9 33.750 kHz 74.250000 MHz
VIC 6: 1440x480i 59.940060 Hz 4:3 15.734 kHz 27.000000 MHz
VIC 7: 1440x480i 59.940060 Hz 16:9 15.734 kHz 27.000000 MHz
VIC 16: 1920x1080 60.000000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 148.500000 MHz
VIC 17: 720x576 50.000000 Hz 4:3 31.250 kHz 27.000000 MHz
VIC 18: 720x576 50.000000 Hz 16:9 31.250 kHz 27.000000 MHz
VIC 20: 1920x1080i 50.000000 Hz 16:9 28.125 kHz 74.250000 MHz
VIC 21: 1440x576i 50.000000 Hz 4:3 15.625 kHz 27.000000 MHz
VIC 22: 1440x576i 50.000000 Hz 16:9 15.625 kHz 27.000000 MHz
VIC 31: 1920x1080 50.000000 Hz 16:9 56.250 kHz 148.500000 MHz
VIC 32: 1920x1080 24.000000 Hz 16:9 27.000 kHz 74.250000 MHz
VIC 33: 1920x1080 25.000000 Hz 16:9 28.125 kHz 74.250000 MHz
VIC 93: 3840x2160 24.000000 Hz 16:9 54.000 kHz 297.000000 MHz
VIC 94: 3840x2160 25.000000 Hz 16:9 56.250 kHz 297.000000 MHz
VIC 95: 3840x2160 30.000000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 297.000000 MHz
Audio Data Block:
Linear PCM:
Max channels: 2
Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1 32
Supported sample sizes (bits): 24 20 16
Speaker Allocation Data Block:
FL/FR - Front Left/Right
Vendor-Specific Data Block (HDMI), OUI 00-0C-03:
Source physical address: 1.0.0.0
DC_36bit
DC_30bit
DC_Y444
Maximum TMDS clock: 340 MHz
Extended HDMI video details:
HDMI VICs:
HDMI VIC 3: 3840x2160 24.000000 Hz 16:9 54.000 kHz 297.000000 MHz
HDMI VIC 2: 3840x2160 25.000000 Hz 16:9 56.250 kHz 297.000000 MHz
HDMI VIC 1: 3840x2160 30.000000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 297.000000 MHz
Vendor-Specific Data Block (HDMI Forum), OUI C4-5D-D8:
Version: 1
Maximum TMDS Character Rate: 600 MHz
SCDC Present
Supports 10-bits/component Deep Color 4:2:0 Pixel Encoding
YCbCr 4:2:0 Capability Map Data Block:
VIC 97: 3840x2160 60.000000 Hz 16:9 135.000 kHz 594.000000 MHz
Vendor-Specific Data Block (AMD), OUI 00-00-1A:
Version: 1
Feature Caps: 0x01
Minimum Refresh Rate: 40 Hz
Maximum Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
Flags 1.x: 0xe6 (MCCS)
Detailed Timing Descriptors:
DTD 2: 2560x1440 59.950550 Hz 16:9 88.787 kHz 241.500000 MHz (597 mm x 336 mm)
Hfront 48 Hsync 32 Hback 80 Hpol P
Vfront 3 Vsync 5 Vback 33 Vpol N
Checksum: 0x2e Unused space in Extension Block: 40 bytes
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-HDMI-A-2/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-Writeback-1/edid' was empty.Offline
#36 2025-06-28 16:04:15
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
Supports 10-bits/component Deep Color 4:2:0 Pixel EncodingNo, the idea was whether you've another monitor - instead of a fancy 4k wide-gamut display, maybe some sad 1280x1042 office panel from 2008 or so… the other thread links this very much to that specific monitor and yours is 10bpc capable as well …
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#37 2025-06-28 19:45:51
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
Supports 10-bits/component Deep Color 4:2:0 Pixel EncodingNo, the idea was whether you've another monitor - instead of a fancy 4k wide-gamut display, maybe some sad 1280x1042 office panel from 2008 or so… the other thread links this very much to that specific monitor and yours is 10bpc capable as well …
I think I might have an old one lying somewhere, I will give it a try and see what I get.
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#38 2025-07-05 10:26:17
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
Supports 10-bits/component Deep Color 4:2:0 Pixel EncodingNo, the idea was whether you've another monitor - instead of a fancy 4k wide-gamut display, maybe some sad 1280x1042 office panel from 2008 or so… the other thread links this very much to that specific monitor and yours is 10bpc capable as well …
I tried a Samsung 2494HM screen, but I got the same issue.
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#39 2025-07-05 14:21:11
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
Just to be sure, can you post the edid of that monitor as well?
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#40 2025-07-06 13:11:19
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Re: GPU crash when playing video on firefox
Just to be sure, can you post the edid of that monitor as well?
I found an even older monitor, but it also crashed.
the edid of the oldest monitor I tried is below
❯ find /sys/class/drm/*/edid -exec edid-decode {} \; 2>/dev/null
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-1/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-2/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-3/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-4/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-5/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-6/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-DP-7/edid' was empty.
edid-decode (hex):
00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 4c 2d 6d 07 45 43 32 42
26 14 01 03 80 30 1b 78 2a 78 f1 a6 55 48 9b 26
12 50 54 bf ef 80 71 4f 81 00 81 40 81 80 95 00
95 0f a9 40 b3 00 02 3a 80 18 71 38 2d 40 58 2c
45 00 dd 0c 11 00 00 1e 01 1d 00 72 51 d0 1e 20
6e 28 55 00 dd 0c 11 00 00 1e 00 00 00 fd 00 38
4b 1e 51 11 00 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 fc
00 53 4d 42 58 32 32 33 31 0a 20 20 20 20 01 39
02 03 1c f1 48 90 04 1f 05 14 13 12 03 23 09 07
07 83 01 00 00 66 03 0c 00 10 00 80 01 1d 80 d0
72 1c 16 20 10 2c 25 80 dd 0c 11 00 00 9e 01 1d
80 18 71 1c 16 20 58 2c 25 00 dd 0c 11 00 00 9e
01 1d 00 bc 52 d0 1e 20 b8 28 55 40 dd 0c 11 00
00 1e 8c 0a d0 90 20 40 31 20 0c 40 55 00 dd 0c
11 00 00 18 8c 0a d0 8a 20 e0 2d 10 10 3e 96 00
dd 0c 11 00 00 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 46
----------------
Block 0, Base EDID:
EDID Structure Version & Revision: 1.3
Vendor & Product Identification:
Manufacturer: SAM
Model: 1901
Serial Number: 1110590277 (0x42324345)
Made in: week 38 of 2010
Basic Display Parameters & Features:
Digital display
Maximum image size: 48 cm x 27 cm
Gamma: 2.20
DPMS levels: Off
RGB color display
First detailed timing is the preferred timing
Color Characteristics:
Red : 0.6494, 0.3349
Green: 0.2832, 0.6054
Blue : 0.1513, 0.0732
White: 0.3125, 0.3291
Established Timings I & II:
IBM : 720x400 70.081663 Hz 9:5 31.467 kHz 28.320000 MHz
DMT 0x04: 640x480 59.940476 Hz 4:3 31.469 kHz 25.175000 MHz
Apple : 640x480 66.666667 Hz 4:3 35.000 kHz 30.240000 MHz
DMT 0x05: 640x480 72.808802 Hz 4:3 37.861 kHz 31.500000 MHz
DMT 0x06: 640x480 75.000000 Hz 4:3 37.500 kHz 31.500000 MHz
DMT 0x08: 800x600 56.250000 Hz 4:3 35.156 kHz 36.000000 MHz
DMT 0x09: 800x600 60.316541 Hz 4:3 37.879 kHz 40.000000 MHz
DMT 0x0a: 800x600 72.187572 Hz 4:3 48.077 kHz 50.000000 MHz
DMT 0x0b: 800x600 75.000000 Hz 4:3 46.875 kHz 49.500000 MHz
Apple : 832x624 74.551266 Hz 4:3 49.726 kHz 57.284000 MHz
DMT 0x10: 1024x768 60.003840 Hz 4:3 48.363 kHz 65.000000 MHz
DMT 0x11: 1024x768 70.069359 Hz 4:3 56.476 kHz 75.000000 MHz
DMT 0x12: 1024x768 75.028582 Hz 4:3 60.023 kHz 78.750000 MHz
DMT 0x24: 1280x1024 75.024675 Hz 5:4 79.976 kHz 135.000000 MHz
Apple : 1152x870 75.061550 Hz 192:145 68.681 kHz 100.000000 MHz
Standard Timings:
DMT 0x15: 1152x864 75.000000 Hz 4:3 67.500 kHz 108.000000 MHz
DMT 0x1c: 1280x800 59.810326 Hz 16:10 49.702 kHz 83.500000 MHz
DMT 0x20: 1280x960 60.000000 Hz 4:3 60.000 kHz 108.000000 MHz
DMT 0x23: 1280x1024 60.019740 Hz 5:4 63.981 kHz 108.000000 MHz
DMT 0x2f: 1440x900 59.887445 Hz 16:10 55.935 kHz 106.500000 MHz
DMT 0x30: 1440x900 74.984427 Hz 16:10 70.635 kHz 136.750000 MHz
DMT 0x33: 1600x1200 60.000000 Hz 4:3 75.000 kHz 162.000000 MHz
DMT 0x3a: 1680x1050 59.954250 Hz 16:10 65.290 kHz 146.250000 MHz
Detailed Timing Descriptors:
DTD 1: 1920x1080 60.000000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 148.500000 MHz (477 mm x 268 mm)
Hfront 88 Hsync 44 Hback 148 Hpol P
Vfront 4 Vsync 5 Vback 36 Vpol P
DTD 2: 1280x720 60.000000 Hz 16:9 45.000 kHz 74.250000 MHz (477 mm x 268 mm)
Hfront 110 Hsync 40 Hback 220 Hpol P
Vfront 5 Vsync 5 Vback 20 Vpol P
Display Range Limits:
Monitor ranges (GTF): 56-75 Hz V, 30-81 kHz H, max dotclock 170 MHz
Display Product Name: 'SMBX2231'
Extension blocks: 1
Checksum: 0x39
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Block 1, CTA-861 Extension Block:
Revision: 3
Underscans IT Video Formats by default
Basic audio support
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4
Supports YCbCr 4:2:2
Native detailed modes: 1
Video Data Block:
VIC 16: 1920x1080 60.000000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 148.500000 MHz (native)
VIC 4: 1280x720 60.000000 Hz 16:9 45.000 kHz 74.250000 MHz
VIC 31: 1920x1080 50.000000 Hz 16:9 56.250 kHz 148.500000 MHz
VIC 5: 1920x1080i 60.000000 Hz 16:9 33.750 kHz 74.250000 MHz
VIC 20: 1920x1080i 50.000000 Hz 16:9 28.125 kHz 74.250000 MHz
VIC 19: 1280x720 50.000000 Hz 16:9 37.500 kHz 74.250000 MHz
VIC 18: 720x576 50.000000 Hz 16:9 31.250 kHz 27.000000 MHz
VIC 3: 720x480 59.940060 Hz 16:9 31.469 kHz 27.000000 MHz
Audio Data Block:
Linear PCM:
Max channels: 2
Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1 32
Supported sample sizes (bits): 24 20 16
Speaker Allocation Data Block:
FL/FR - Front Left/Right
Vendor-Specific Data Block (HDMI), OUI 00-0C-03:
Source physical address: 1.0.0.0
Supports_AI
Detailed Timing Descriptors:
DTD 3: 1920x1080i 50.000000 Hz 16:9 28.125 kHz 74.250000 MHz (477 mm x 268 mm)
Hfront 528 Hsync 44 Hback 148 Hpol P
Vfront 2 Vsync 5 Vback 15 Vpol P Vfront +0.5 Odd Field
Vfront 2 Vsync 5 Vback 15 Vpol P Vback +0.5 Even Field
DTD 4: 1920x1080i 60.000000 Hz 16:9 33.750 kHz 74.250000 MHz (477 mm x 268 mm)
Hfront 88 Hsync 44 Hback 148 Hpol P
Vfront 2 Vsync 5 Vback 15 Vpol P Vfront +0.5 Odd Field
Vfront 2 Vsync 5 Vback 15 Vpol P Vback +0.5 Even Field
DTD 5: 1280x720 50.000000 Hz 16:9 37.500 kHz 74.250000 MHz (477 mm x 268 mm)
Hfront 440 Hsync 40 Hback 220 Hpol P
Vfront 5 Vsync 5 Vback 20 Vpol P
DTD 6: 720x576 50.000000 Hz 5:4 31.250 kHz 27.000000 MHz (477 mm x 268 mm)
Hfront 12 Hsync 64 Hback 68 Hpol N
Vfront 5 Vsync 5 Vback 39 Vpol N
DTD 7: 720x480 59.940060 Hz 3:2 31.469 kHz 27.000000 MHz (477 mm x 268 mm)
Hfront 16 Hsync 62 Hback 60 Hpol N
Vfront 9 Vsync 6 Vback 30 Vpol N
Checksum: 0x46 Unused space in Extension Block: 9 bytes
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-HDMI-A-2/edid' was empty.
EDID of '/sys/class/drm/card1-Writeback-1/edid' was empty.Offline