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bones

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From: Brisbane

Registered: 2006-03-24

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Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

Here's a little article I noticed that might get people screaming for blood

http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.c … -sudo.html

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Ramses de Norre

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From: Leuven - Belgium

Registered: 2007-03-27

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Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

They did.

chaosgeisterchen

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From: Kefermarkt, Upper Austria

Registered: 2006-11-20

Posts: 550

Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

In how far does this affect Linux?

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oli

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From: 127.0.0.1

Registered: 2006-02-07

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Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

It ins't sudo! It's something like MAC in FreeBSD/MacOS X or SELinux.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO885 … k/mac.html
http://www.sedarwin.org/
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/

So in fact it's more than a mere sudo, it's the technology behind such an "interface".

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iBertus

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From: Greenville, NC

Registered: 2004-11-04

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Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

This patent isn't even related to sudo. This requires an administrative process to be running at all times while sudo does not.

STiAT

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From: Vienna, Austria

Registered: 2004-12-23

Posts: 606

Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

Rather related to keyring software used by gnome / kde than to sudo. They run a process (keyring-manager) to archive this tasks.

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oli

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From: 127.0.0.1

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Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

Read the patent under claims and compare it to SELinux and so on or the explanation of UAC,

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/wind … 06021.aspx

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deficite

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From: Augusta, GA

Registered: 2005-06-02

Posts: 693

Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

Seriously. No more software patents. Please.

davin

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From: UK

Registered: 2007-05-01

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Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

how serious matter is this ?? i dont think microsoft can doa avything with sudo

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STiAT

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From: Vienna, Austria

Registered: 2004-12-23

Posts: 606

Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

Read the patent. It's a different structure and process described than sudo uses. So for sudo, there's actually no serious danger. I rather see danger for gnome-keyring and the kdesu implementation, since they need "services" or "servers" running in the background.
Anyway, i don't see any real problem within this, a new architecture will be found if it's really serious. I think the gnome developers will know about this patent and also know if it describes their architecture used.

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deficite

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From: Augusta, GA

Registered: 2005-06-02

Posts: 693

Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

I don't see any danger with kdesu and such simply because of the magical thing called "prior art".

iphitus

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From: Melbourne, Australia

Registered: 2004-10-09

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Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

gnome-keyring does not run with administrator privileges anyway.

James

chaosgeisterchen

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From: Kefermarkt, Upper Austria

Registered: 2006-11-20

Posts: 550

Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

The funny thing is that it is apparently a copied feature from the Linux desktop.

But Linux devs do not patent their inventions.

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celestary
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oli

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From: 127.0.0.1

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Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

Sudo hasn't anything to do with Linux, the idea is from the early 80s at BSD on VAX machines. The first sudo is from AT&T in 1983.

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chaosgeisterchen

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From: Kefermarkt, Upper Austria

Registered: 2006-11-20

Posts: 550

Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

Ah, thanks for the information. This way it's even more ridiculous to patent it in 2007.

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lloeki

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From: France

Registered: 2007-02-20

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Re: Did Microsoft just patent sudo?

It's ridiculous to patent software, anyway.

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