Why people don't like xfce (apparently)

Rehto · 2007-05-08 16:58:44

This is the most asinine thread I've ever read ... OK almost

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chrismortimore · 2007-05-09 06:23:26

Rehto wrote:

This is the most asinine thread I've ever read ... OK almost

It's amazing! And it's all because of me!!

ravster · 2007-05-09 22:06:37

Wow, I haven't heard the work 'asinine' in so long.
Awesome.

foxbunny · 2007-05-26 22:42:22

I've not posted in a long while, but here I am making something like comeback in this thread?! Silly, silly thread. Gave me a good laugh until the 2.5th page. Damn, nice work, chrismortimore.

Mandor · 2007-05-28 06:47:26

To contribute to the abuse:

I pronounce it as "ks^ f^ (t)s^ e", where "^" should represent a schwa vocal. That's the natural way of reading acronyms in my native language. I have no problems with WISIWIG - just pronounce it "vizivig".

About the names - it is really lame to evade some software because of its name - and I think it is more of a verbal excuse, than a real reason, if someone claims that the name sucks - I had a friend of mine, Gentoo user, that claimed that the portage frontend "Kuroo" ultimately sux because of its name (in our language it's related to the word "penis", and I think it means "ass" in Brazilian Portuguese, but I'm not quite sure). As a matter of fact he just hated anything KDE related (it was not because it is a frontend - other frontends were found useless, but not repelling).

After all names and design matter, especially for such end user software like DEs.

About the logos - I find the mouse quite unattractive - not because it's a mouse, but because it's not so well designed. The gnome foot is quite good, maybe the best graphical logo in DEs/WMs. KDE's gear needs some attention, but it's generally OK - much more annoying is the inevitable blue - no matter what you do, it's hard to get rid of blue plague.

thayer · 2007-05-30 22:00:09

I can't help but wonder how many GNOME users are commenting on the whole XFCE name thing too. I mean, GNOME is perhaps one of the stupidest pronunciations I've heard people use. Worse yet, the GNOME project is all about accessibility and their own name "Guh-Nome" goes against the policy of avoiding acronyms and purposely mispronouncing existing words. Foolishly, I used to believe GNOME was pronounced with a silent G, much like a yard gnome. When I learned that the G was pronounced 'Guh', I had a hard time correcting myself, but I did nonetheless. However, since then my experience has been very negative when dealing with non-Linux users. Most people think you just don't know that the G should be silent. Others think it's just a stupid name.

For years, I've said that GNOME should change its pronunciation to "G" Nome, or genome. Using the "building blocks" theme, the existing logo (a foot) would still work, and it would also coincide well with Ubuntu, which is one of the best GNOME-based (mainstream) distros available. Of course, it would've worked perfectly with Fedora 6 as well, but they have since switched to that ridiculous balloon theme.

Then again, KDE used to sound too "kiddie" to a lot of folks. The overuse of child-like (candy) icons and the "K" naming convention hasn't helped this image either.

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slackhack · 2007-05-30 23:13:42

thayer.w wrote:

Of course, it would've worked perfectly with Fedora 6 as well, but they have since switched to that ridiculous balloon theme.

Then again, KDE used to sound too "kiddie" to a lot of folks. The overuse of child-like (candy) icons and the "K" naming convention hasn't helped this image either.

but see, it has to be like windoze or people aren't happy.

kano · 2007-06-03 08:58:42

I've always pronounced it as 'x-face'
GNOME I've always pronounced like garden gnome, and will continue to do so. >.<

mitsoko · 2007-06-03 19:22:47

``Guh-Nome`` ... this is due to RMS and the FSF and almost everyone else's pronunciation of GNU `Guh-New`` ...
i personally stick with the English pron. of using silent Gs, i see no reason to turn an abbreviation(GNU) into a word, esp. when it has no vowels, which means that it's not an English word.

and i can't believe this thread is still alive :-o

thayer · 2007-06-03 22:59:22

Ah ha, but it's not just an abbreviation, it's an actual animal as well, which has gone on to become the GNU project mascot.

And sure, you can keep pronouncing GNOME with a silent "g", but don't dare attend a seminar or conference and utter those words... you'll be labeled a newb for sure

kano · 2007-06-03 23:00:45

I've never even tried to pronounce GNU... Guh-New sounds dumb o.O

Mardukas · 2007-11-20 19:00:02

May Hitler trink the blood of thy jews 4.4

Well that would be cool. Really.
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Lol, x-feces. Made my day.

depierce · 2007-12-05 15:30:37

<delurk>
All bow before the mighty X Feces!
</delurk>

Bison · 2007-12-05 18:01:25

That makes me want to use XFCE!

liquibyte · 2007-12-05 22:52:58

WYSIWYG = wussy whig

I always got a kick out of that, especially when professionals refer to it in technical articles.

Slikkie · 2007-12-07 10:44:46

Romashka wrote:

It's not a problem for me to pronounce Xfce as X-F-C-E. Same way I pronounce XHTML and other abbreviations. The only problem for me is WYSIWYG.

So for me

I use XFCE because it's the only environment that works on my 6year-old-computer without problems

No, names don't mather for me

lloeki · 2007-12-07 12:05:23

in french WYSIWYG gives: wee-zee-weeg (english sounding)
GNOME is gnome and GNU is gnu (with non-silent G, since they're not so, in french)
Xfce, well just spelling it, like "ix èf cé eu" (french sounding)

that said I like Xfce, except that I feel it really deserves to grow by itself, and stop relying on GNOME/KDE services.

iphitus · 2007-12-07 12:22:24

Reminds me of an experience a friend of mine had while there were some Aboriginal exchange students there. They were discussing what cars people had... and the exchange students were most offended by Pajaro and Mini -- within their language, they were offensive or related to certain parts of the body not normally spoken of.

shining · 2007-12-07 13:02:39

mucknert wrote:

What the hell... what is it with you people and names (not meaning each and everyone in this thread, of course)? Ditching TCL/TK because you don't like the name or how it is pronounced? What. The. Hell. Is wrong with you? Same for the guy who wrote that post about XFCE. Do you still wash the cooties off if you touch a girl?
Seriously now. The name should be the last consideration if you chose a piece of software. Imagine people would not use LaTeX because they are afraid of the giggling "You use LaTeX -- hee hee hee." It's equally stupid. Sheesh!
End of rant.

(one year later)
I agreed with that until I heard about awesome, that name seriously pisses me off

KimTjik · 2007-12-07 13:13:44

Names and languages result in a lot of funny stuff.

A classic here in Sweden was the release of Honda Jazz in 2002, or as it initially was named Honda Fitta. For you english speaking folks it does in Swedish translate to: Honda Cunt. Especially humorous was the planned, and already printed, commercial stuff, with titles like "Honda Fitta, a daily pleasure" or "Honda Fitta, small on the outside but spacious on the inside". Such slogans don't even test your imagination; no dirty mind needed with such slogans!

So Honda Jazz it become.

nordaust · 2007-12-08 19:31:15

First off, it would be nice to be able to keep the flame bait at a minimum...

Xfce, like any other open project, does not force itself on you to use it, so why does it matter (seriously) that some folks don't like xfce? It really doesn't matter, and if someone wants to use it or not use it, that's their own choice.

Cheers

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ibendiben · 2007-12-09 00:19:04

Funny indeed how different people read names differently. For me for example, I spel out gnu, gnome is just gnome, but Xfce becomes X-force... it's odd but unconsiously I seem to recognize that letter combination in there...

Gilneas · 2007-12-09 07:42:53

I have another one. I pronounce both mkv and McAfee as meh-kah-fee.

Peyton · 2007-12-30 20:00:46

http://wiki.xfce.org/faq

x-f-c-e

jacko · 2008-01-02 16:08:28

oh well, like 3 others in this thread. x-face is what first came to my mind and is what I use. saying X-F-C-E takes to long and is ridiculously tongue twisting. But again, whats in a name? Functionality is all that should ever matter.

who owns a computer because it has a cute name? or because it uses a cool named DE?

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