PC Hard Locks at random

Kenetixx · 2007-05-27 08:00:32

Hi all
Been a while since i was on here, anyway i just done a fresh install on Arch Duke all is well setting it all up but my pc hardlocks at random and i have to hard reset the PC, all new hardware has been running windows for gaming for a long time with out one lockup.
Specs are:
AM2 x2 4000
2 gig ddr 800
Gigabyte MOtherboard Nforce 550
Asus 7900 GS
couple of HDD

I was thinking maybe it has something to do with acpi?
How do i disable acpi at boot to see if it helps?

ANy ideas?

billy · 2007-05-27 09:21:51

My system also hardlocks every once in a while without any info in everything.log.

Kenetixx · 2007-05-27 09:22:41

With mine it now seems to be ok since i stopped using beryl?

brebs · 2007-05-27 11:13:57

Ndiswrapper, being a kernel module, can cause kernel lockups. I recommend the latest version: 1.45_rc3

Kenetixx · 2007-05-27 11:42:26

thanks but it was beryl doing it, run gnome with beryl for about 20 minutes and it locked, without beryl for around 2 hours and hasnt locked once.

Kenetixx · 2007-05-27 12:35:07

Nope just done it again for no reason? Just browsing the web with firefox, i am using Arch64??
nothing in Logs either

Kenetixx · 2007-05-27 14:11:25

Now this is starting to piss me off, random locks for no reason about every 15 - 20 minutes, nothing in logs just freezes up while web browsing.
maybe its the 64 bit version as i never had this with 32 bit version of arch?

Kenetixx · 2007-05-27 14:30:56

just got this
This time it locked but i could Alt+Ctrl +Backspace out

Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000010 RIP: 
 [<ffffffff8024f596>] sys_kill+0x176/0x1d0
PGD 6f700067 PUD 6f701067 PMD 0 
Oops: 0000 [1] PREEMPT SMP 
CPU 0 
Modules linked in: nvidia(P) ipv6 ntfs ext2 rtc_sysfs rtc_proc rtc_dev sg pcspkr rtc_cmos rtc_core rtc_lib serio_raw psmouse k8temp i2c_nforce2 i2c_core joydev tsdev evdev thermal processor fan button battery ac snd_cmipci gameport snd_opl3_lib snd_mpu401_uart snd_rawmidi snd_hwdep snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_mixer_oss snd soundcore forcedeth ext3 jbd mbcache usbhid hid ff_memless sr_mod cdrom sd_mod ehci_hcd ohci_hcd usbcore sata_nv ata_generic pata_amd libata
Pid: 5119, comm: gnome-screensav Tainted: P       2.6.21-ARCH #1
RIP: 0010:[<ffffffff8024f596>]  [<ffffffff8024f596>] sys_kill+0x176/0x1d0
RSP: 0018:ffff81006f6c5f48  EFLAGS: 00010296
RAX: 0000000000000010 RBX: 000000000057c8c0 RCX: 0000000000000000
RDX: 00007fff187013f0 RSI: 000000006f6c5f54 RDI: 000000000000000a
RBP: 000000000057c8c0 R08: 00007fff18701430 R09: 00007fff187013f0
R10: 0000000000000000 R11: 0000000000000206 R12: 0000000000000001
R13: 0000000000000010 R14: 0000000000000010 R15: 0000000000000001
FS:  00002aea95baf190(0000) GS:ffffffff8057a000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 000000008005003b
CR2: 0000000000000010 CR3: 000000006f592000 CR4: 00000000000006e0
Process gnome-screensav (pid: 5119, threadinfo ffff81006f6c4000, task ffff81007f3bee40)
Stack:  0000000000000001 ffffffff80268bbd 0000000000000001 000000000057c8c0
 0000000000000001 0000000000000001 0000000000000010 ffffffff8026111e
 0000000000000206 0000000000000000 00007fff187013f0 00007fff18701430
Call Trace:
 [<ffffffff80268bbd>] error_exit+0x0/0x84
 [<ffffffff8026111e>] system_call+0x7e/0x83


Code: 48 8b 04 25 10 00 00 00 8b 80 38 e0 ff ff a8 08 74 08 e8 93 
RIP  [<ffffffff8024f596>] sys_kill+0x176/0x1d0
 RSP <ffff81006f6c5f48>
CR2: 0000000000000010
Bad pte = 2aaaac5dad50, process = firefox-bin, vm_flags = 100073, vaddr = ab5178

Call Trace:
 [<ffffffff80208bee>] __handle_mm_fault+0x7ce/0xc30
 [<ffffffff8020aa57>] do_page_fault+0x3c7/0x7e0
 [<ffffffff80460fe9>] unix_ioctl+0xe9/0x110
 [<ffffffff80405b1c>] sock_ioctl+0x20c/0x240
 [<ffffffff80243cef>] do_ioctl+0x2f/0xa0
 [<ffffffff80268bbd>] error_exit+0x0/0x84

Kenetixx · 2007-05-28 06:34:44

No idea what it was but now im on 32bit Arch and all is well????
Im to impatient to wait for a fix

l33tunderground · 2007-05-28 12:29:38

I'm not incredible or anything at deciphering X/kernel error messages, but maybe try uninstalling gnome-screensaver... If uninstalling Beryl worked for a while, then that kind of points to openGL as a culprit, and if you have a GL screensaver loaded then it might be doing the same thing. That and it says that gnome-screen saver is 'Tainted'... although I don't know what that means I'm guessing that's not good

Kenetixx · 2007-05-28 12:53:03

Tryed uninstalling all GLX stuff and it still happened
Tainted is because the nvidia drivers are not open source

Gullible Jones · 2007-05-28 13:22:16

Do the locks occur when using the CLI, or only when X is running? Because if they occur when X is running it's probably X freezing up as it is apt to do - you can SSH in and kill it, and I'm not sure but I think that verynice allows you to kill it automatically.

japetto · 2007-05-28 14:00:20

I had an issue with lockups recently and I have been lock free for a while since switching from the proprietary ATI driver to the open-source one. Is anyone that's having the issue using ATI drivers?

Kenetixx · 2007-05-28 14:23:13

Seems to only do it in X, i think it is an nvidia driver problem myself.
But arch 32 bit is all ok. going to buy another hdd 2moro and reinstall 64bit and see how it goes with out nvidia drivers ?

whompus · 2007-05-28 16:14:00

@ japetto I was having lockups using the open source ati drivers but not had any problems since switching to the proprietary ATI driver. Think a setting in xorg.conf may have been the problem but don't know which one as I modified it quite a lot.

japetto · 2007-05-28 18:37:50

That's interesting, whompus. When I had the lockup issue I couldn't even ssh into my machine, which from what I know should be possible if it's just X locking up. Maybe it's something other than X that was the culprit. Unfortunately, no logs were written at those times.

slackhack · 2007-05-28 18:43:07

my system locks up with OpenGL apps and the open ati drivers. i can't ssh in, either, just like you described, both on 64 and 32. i'd guess that was the culprit.

billy · 2007-05-28 19:28:43

i have fglrx drivers on arch32. sometimes it locks up twice a day, sometimes not even once in two weeks . could this be connected with firefox freezing almost every day? i would try open-sourced drivers for ati but they don't support my card (yet).

Kenetixx · 2007-05-28 19:45:20

Thinking about it more now, mine seemed to lock when web surfing with any browser, while doing other things it never locked.
I left my PC running with firefox open while i watched a movie and it locked, left my PC running with out a broser open and it didnt lock?? Could be coincedence?

Kenetixx · 2007-05-31 11:52:21

Alright , seems to be something to do with Composite enabled with nvidia drivers under 64 bit arch. ANyone else having problems or heard of this before, its only 64bit not 32 .

Youdaman · 2007-06-04 00:27:27

I started experiencing the same hard lockups this morning -- so far I've had 4, and I'm concerned my harddisk is going to blow up if I keep just pulling the plug and resetting as it has to do a filesystem check and reboot again each time.

For me it happened while using Firefox also... I don't have beryl installed. I'm running the nvidia-71xx drivers on an old quadro2pro card. Things have been running fine until this morning -- I've only been using the box for a week prior, but had no problems. The only things I've done have been to install the ttf-bitstream-vera fonts and do some package housekeeping (uninstalling stuff I don't use -- like beryl, etc).

Anyhow, my theory (as crackpot as it might sound) is Firefox is causing the lock up when I'm loading multiple tabs.

I'm just about to try this (opening multiple tabs in Firefox) and if it locks again I'll reply here, otherwise I'll keep checking back to see if others have worked out the mystery.

Youdaman · 2007-06-04 00:33:49

Well I opened 20+ tabs and I'm still here

One thing I forgot to mention is that I deleted my ~/.mozilla directory after the last lockup (having exported/saved my bookmarks of course!) so perhaps if it *was* Firefox then that was the solution?

Needless to say if I crash again I'll be back -- otherwise, if you're crashing while using Firefox, do what I did. If that solves it then perhaps it's got to do with the latest releases of the browser not playing well with old files in ~/.mozilla

Gullible Jones · 2007-06-04 02:35:14

Wait a minute... I recently had an issue with bash locking up when I used powersaved on the laptop - I've currently disabled powersaved and planned to ask about it if it resurfaced after I was done getting the wireless working. Are the rest of you guys all using powersave? The latest one isn't a big update, just a modification to keep it from adding or removing the power group, but I'm starting to think it might somehow be bugged anyway.

Youdaman · 2007-06-04 05:18:41

I'm not using powersave (or at least I'm not aware of installing/running it)... I hardlocked again this afternoon. I've replaced my old Quadro2 with an old TNT2 that was laying around. We'll see if this makes a difference.

It seems in my case it's X, because I can still move the mouse cursor, I just can't alt-ctrl-backspace or alt-ctrl-fX to a terminal. Can't wait til I get a new video card and can use the latest drivers!

billy · 2007-06-04 07:57:05

Youdaman wrote:

I'm not using powersave (or at least I'm not aware of installing/running it)... I hardlocked again this afternoon. I've replaced my old Quadro2 with an old TNT2 that was laying around. We'll see if this makes a difference.
It seems in my case it's X, because I can still move the mouse cursor, I just can't alt-ctrl-backspace or alt-ctrl-fX to a terminal. Can't wait til I get a new video card and can use the latest drivers!

same here but i use fglrx, and i don't have powersave. the only thing i can do after a lockup is to move the mouse around. clicking and typing doesn't work. but with some lockups the windows change to white and gray squares and i can't even move the mouse. oh, and i don't use xgl.

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