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#1 2007-11-20 20:03:41

Majkhii
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Registered: 2007-07-29
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Cannot get ping, access to www.archlinux.org

Hi guys...I have very big problem...one week ago I lost connection to archlinux.org.

Traceroute archlinux.org say:

1  mihairu (192.168.152.4)  0.413 ms  0.299 ms  0.288 ms
 2  192.168.152.1 (192.168.152.1)  21.137 ms  6.176 ms  2.964 ms
 3  213.29.11.1 (213.29.11.1)  3.566 ms  3.155 ms  2.707 ms
 4  62.84.143.5 (62.84.143.5)  7.835 ms  16.050 ms  43.567 ms
 5  fra-tr1-p1-1-0-3.gtsce.net (195.39.208.81)  20.980 ms  21.853 ms  23.391 ms
 6  decix.mpd01.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com (80.81.192.63)  66.667 ms  52.989 ms  51.520 ms
 7  g9-0-0.core01.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.0.1)  26.322 ms  32.531 ms  23.944 ms
 8  * * *
 9  p13-0.core01.par01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.1.137)  115.934 ms  113.441 ms  117.035 ms
10  t2-3.mpd02.par01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.2.50)  137.813 ms  146.916 ms  114.648 ms
11  * t8-4.mpd01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.2.102)  114.726 ms  114.630 ms
12  t7-1.ccr02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.234)  116.755 ms  120.639 ms  118.891 ms
13  g1-0-0.core01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.157)  114.547 ms  170.192 ms  116.082 ms
14  p15-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.22)  115.082 ms  114.578 ms  114.183 ms
15  t3-1.mpd01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.50)  118.545 ms  116.837 ms  115.309 ms
16  t8-1.mpd01.dca02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.70)  122.411 ms  120.427 ms  212.395 ms
17  v3495.mpd01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.62)  331.412 ms  357.301 ms  244.338 ms
18  g9-0-0-3492.core01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.221)  219.599 ms  118.356 ms  118.202 ms
19  * * *
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *

Ping:

PING archlinux.org (66.211.213.17) 56(84) bytes of data.

anyone who knows, where could be a problem?

my outer IP:  62.209.230.5


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#2 2007-11-20 22:03:02

Lone_Wolf
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Re: Cannot get ping, access to www.archlinux.org

Last sunday i had a similar problem for several hours, but since then i've been able to access the site without problems.

The trace route i took on sunday looked very similar to yours, this is the current traceroute  :

traceroute www.archlinux.org
traceroute to archlinux.org (66.211.213.17), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  SpeedTouch.lan (10.0.0.138)  1.274 ms  0.592 ms  0.533 ms
 2  195.190.249.72 (195.190.249.72)  6.038 ms  5.794 ms  5.363 ms
 3  42.ge-2-1-0.xr4.3d12.xs4all.net (194.109.5.105)  10.602 ms  10.084 ms  10.452 ms
 4  0.so-6-0-0.xr1.tc2.xs4all.net (194.109.5.10)  10.685 ms  10.382 ms  10.586 ms
 5  po1.ccr01.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (195.69.144.124)  10.763 ms  10.122 ms  10.415 ms
 6  t10-0-0.core01.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.0.237)  10.989 ms  10.375 ms  10.677 ms
 7  p1-0.core02.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.1.110)  19.360 ms  18.609 ms  19.077 ms
 8  p9-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.253)  93.196 ms  93.317 ms  93.327 ms
 9  t3-3.mpd03.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.234)  285.302 ms  93.844 ms  94.304 ms
10  t3-3.ccr02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.246)  280.900 ms  195.153 ms  222.152 ms
11  t4-1.mpd01.dca02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.182)  281.895 ms  107.159 ms  207.615 ms
12  t1-4.mpd01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.162)  97.638 ms  97.076 ms  97.103 ms
13  g2-0-0-3491.core01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.33)  101.177 ms  100.756 ms  100.987 ms
14  p3-0.core01.pit02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.26)  106.384 ms  106.085 ms  106.379 ms
15  g0-2.na01.b016102-1.pit02.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.37.166)  103.762 ms  103.124 ms  102.937 ms
16  Velocity_dot_net.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.28.14)  107.668 ms  107.776 ms  107.442 ms
17  66-211-254-1.velocity.net (66.211.254.1)  115.247 ms  114.586 ms  116.485 ms
18  66-211-250-2.velocity.net (66.211.250.2)  117.538 ms  115.447 ms  115.497 ms
19  66-211-213-17.velocity.net (66.211.213.17)  114.927 ms  115.741 ms  113.974 ms

I have heard of similar problems accessing some US sites over the past months , and it appears the problem occurs when one or more of the routers along the route are under heavy load.
In this case it would be the routers in the 154.54.x.x part.

As enduser there seem to be only 2 options :
- wait until the route works again (waiting period can vary between a few minutes and several days)
- use a proxy in a different country so the site is accessed over another route (hopefully one without problems)

Edit : for some reason it's usually europeans who have this trouble

Last edited by Lone_Wolf (2007-11-20 22:04:35)


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#3 2007-11-20 22:39:45

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Re: Cannot get ping, access to www.archlinux.org

I've had the same problem for 2 days, I just got it back a few minutes ago. It's the second time this happens, I really wonder what might be causing this...


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#4 2007-11-20 23:11:04

Bebo
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Re: Cannot get ping, access to www.archlinux.org

I had the same problem this weekend, it "solved itself" yesterday (nov 19) afternoon. My traceroutes also indicated problems with (or maybe rather one hop beyond) a Cogent router, in my case g14-0-0.core01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.57). I tested tracerouteing to www.archlinux.org from different locations using their Looking Glass, and noticed that all Europe routers except for one of them (I think it was the one in Amsterdam) could get to www.archlinux.org.

Anyway, I just wanted to say "+1" and point to the Looking Glass page (for people to test in case this happens again) smile

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#5 2007-11-20 23:24:53

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Re: Cannot get ping, access to www.archlinux.org

The problem was with cogent.
The "solving itself" was cogent fixing their problem.


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#6 2007-11-20 23:31:24

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Re: Cannot get ping, access to www.archlinux.org

Thanks cactus, now I feel a bit better since I know where the problem was smile


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#7 2007-11-21 09:53:32

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Re: Cannot get ping, access to www.archlinux.org

cactus wrote:

The problem was with cogent.
The "solving itself" was cogent fixing their problem.

Yes, of course it was, if it sounded like I implied otherwise, I apologize.

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