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zeerak

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Registered: 2007-12-24

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Some lacking sound

Well to start off I might as well say that I've checked the documentation and tried what it says there to no avail. And when i get the output of the various commands it asks to check, it looks right.

lsmod|grep '^snd'

snd_seq_oss            32896  0
snd_seq_midi_event      7936  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                55680  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          7956  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_hda_intel         381992  7
snd_hwdep               8968  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm_oss            42144  0
snd_pcm                82184  4 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer              22792  4 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          9104  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss          17024  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd                    57928  19 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_intel,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss

ls -l /dev/snd/

crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  0 Dec 24 04:23 controlC0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  4 Dec 24 04:23 hwC0D0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  5 Dec 24 04:23 hwC0D1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 24 Dec 24 04:23 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 16 Dec 24 04:23 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 30 Dec 24 04:23 pcmC0D6c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 22 Dec 24 04:23 pcmC0D6p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  1 Dec 24 04:23 seq
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 33 Dec 24 04:23 timer

For some reason when i type amixer set Master 60% unmute in console it says it doesn't know that simple simple control Master. here's the output of simply typing amixer in console.

Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
  Capabilities: pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback [on]
  Front Right: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Front',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 64
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 52 [81%] [-12.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 52 [81%] [-12.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Front Mic',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 14 [45%] [-13.50dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 14 [45%] [-13.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Front Mic Boost',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 3
  Front Left: 2 [67%]
  Front Right: 2 [67%]
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 3
  Front Left: 2 [67%]
  Front Right: 2 [67%]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 31
  Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [-13.50dB] [on]
  Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [-13.50dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Caller ID',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'Mic' 'Front Mic'
  Item0: 'Mic'
Simple mixer control 'Off-hook',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]

I know a lot of it says it's off, but what I'm looking for is one command to rule them all.

The soundcard btw is an hda intel card from the ich8 family

Last edited by zeerak (2007-12-25 16:35:26)

brebs

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Re: Some lacking sound

See wiki, especially "modinfo".

zeerak

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Re: Some lacking sound

as i understood it sound drivers were compiled into the kernel automatically?

tried reading through it, tried what you suggested about modinfo. to no avail.

Last edited by zeerak (2007-12-25 18:38:16)

pelle.k

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Re: Some lacking sound

You could start off with telling us if you are, in fact, a member of the audio group? Or, what sound card this is. (lspci | grep Audio). Is this a laptop?

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zeerak

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Registered: 2007-12-24

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Re: Some lacking sound

yes, my user is a member of the audio group, but also when in as root it doesn't work. the sound card is intel HDA. Here's the lspci output though:

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)

and yes, this is a laptop. It's a lenovo 3000 n200 specifically, and it's running kde.

pelle.k

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Re: Some lacking sound

That's really wierd, i've got the same chipset. It seems it's you and miggols99 that are having these problems..
Headphone, PCM and front levels up?
are they unmuted (00 instead of MM in alsamixer).

Have you tried passing an option when loading the modules, like i suggested in that other thread?

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"Your beliefs can be like fences that surround you.
You must first see them or you will not even realize that you are not free, simply because you will not see beyond the fences.
They will represent the boundaries of your experience."
SETH / Jane Roberts

zeerak

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Re: Some lacking sound

yeah, when i read it in the other thread i tried it but without any luck.

and yeah, headphone, pcm and front levels to exactly where you want it to be.

Could it be a kernel issue? I mean it's most likely not a driver issue, could be a kde issue if miggols99 is running kde as well.

ralvez

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Re: Some lacking sound

Your problem sounds familiar. Looks like something I had to deal  with shortly ago.
Take a look at this thread: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=38892 I think you will find your answer there.

R

zeerak

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Re: Some lacking sound

cheers, I'll have a look, but I must say that, that sounded very jedilike.

anyway, i tried adding those lines both to rc.conf and modprobe.conf.

with modprobe.conf it says "ignoring invalid line starting with option"
and rc.conf went away too fast for me to read.

rc.conf without options line

LOCALE="en_US.utf8"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
TIMEZONE="Canada/Pacific"
KEYMAP="dk-latin1"
CONSOLEFONT=
CONSOLEMAP=
USECOLOR="yes"

MOD_AUTOLOAD="yes"
MOD_BLACKLIST=()

MODULES=(tg3 iwl4965 snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-hwdep snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-timer snd snd-hda-intel soundcore)
USELVM="no"

HOSTNAME="zeerak"
lo="lo 127.0.0.1"
eth0="dhcp"
wlan0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0 wlan0)
gateway="default gw 192.168.1.1"
ROUTES=(!gateway)

DAEMONS=(syslog-ng @network netfs crond)

rc.conf with options line:

LOCALE="en_US.utf8"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
TIMEZONE="Canada/Pacific"
KEYMAP="dk-latin1"
CONSOLEFONT=
CONSOLEMAP=
USECOLOR="yes"

MOD_AUTOLOAD="yes"
MOD_BLACKLIST=()

MODULES=(tg3 iwl4965 snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-hwdep snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-timer snd snd-hda-intel soundcore)
USELVM="no"

HOSTNAME="zeerak"
lo="lo 127.0.0.1"
eth0="dhcp"
wlan0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0 wlan0)
gateway="default gw 192.168.1.1"
ROUTES=(!gateway)

DAEMONS=(syslog-ng @network netfs crond)

options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo-101e

modprobe.conf without options line

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel

with options line:

lias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo101e

Last edited by zeerak (2007-12-26 16:09:31)

ralvez

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Re: Some lacking sound

It does not work in "rc.conf" it has to be in 'modprobe.conf'
If you use rc.conf your get an error, that's what you are seeing.

There are different options I used "toshiba" and it worked for me but if your read in detail the thread you will find there is a site reference there that discusses other options.

R.

zeerak

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Re: Some lacking sound

yeah i read in depth, knowing that the card is already supported in the alsa package and kernel there is no cause for the patch. I did read the various pages thereby coming up with model=lenovo101e. while I'm not entirely sure that is correct, i've tried rebooting with the other options as well.

but is it to be in a standalone line or is to be an extention of one of the already existing lines?

ralvez

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Re: Some lacking sound

In my case my /etc/modprobe.conf had:

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel

so underneath those two lines I added:
options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba

and that was all, sound works.

Hope this helps.

R.

Last edited by ralvez (2007-12-26 20:25:01)

zeerak

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Re: Some lacking sound

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel model=auto

this is mine right now. sound still doesn't work, i just wanted to try and see what would happen if i had it pick it up from the bios. just for the hell of it i'll try adding toshiba instead. see what happens. I'll be damned if it works but hey.

edit: unsurprisingly it didn't work

wait actually reading through the other threads, some people added the model=toshiba line though not having a toshiba computer and had it work. okay, slowly but surely, all logic from this is being removed.

Last edited by zeerak (2007-12-26 20:33:55)

ralvez

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Re: Some lacking sound

that was my point
It is not about logic, is about chipset compatibility. That's why I said use toshiba. My machine was an Acer but  Toshiba works.
Try also Acer, I know of people that got it to work with it.

R.

Last edited by ralvez (2007-12-26 20:44:30)

zeerak

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Re: Some lacking sound

well i tried all the various chipsets i could think of (and inspired from the alsa page you linked me to via the ubuntu thing.) and here is the pretty

options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
options snd-hda-intel model=acer
options snd-hda-intel model=auto
options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo
options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo-101e
options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo-ms7195-dig
options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo-nb0763
options snd-hda-intel model=medion

i know a bit of an overkill, i just wanted to see if any of those loaded the sound drivers and then remove them one by one to see which would allow the sound to stay. but alas, i am not so fortunate. No sound is played.

zeerak

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Re: Some lacking sound

this is getting on my nerves.