snd-hda-intel doesn't work on 2.6.24

Bapman · 2008-03-23 04:07:59

Yep that's my id

venox · 2008-03-23 21:28:57

I have a snd-hda-intel based sound card too. I didn't had any issues like yours, but I solved all my problems (like freezing the system with concurrent sounds or stuttering on some apps) by upgrading alsa-lib to 1.0.16 (strangely, alsa-lib on extra stills 1.0.15). I'm not sure, but maybe you guys could give it a shot too.

Blind · 2008-03-24 15:25:21

There is a bug report:
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9791

venox, thanks for the hint. Didn't help, though

Bapman · 2008-03-24 15:58:42

Ok that's a bug report for the MIC issue, we are a few having the problem of no sound at all. Maybe we should report the bug. I would do it but I am a newbie and I don't know what relevant information I should put in there (I mean I don't get any relevant error, it just doesn't work until I use pm-suspend).

Blind · 2008-03-24 16:08:33

You should just file a bug report, and then answer to whatever info the dev is requesting. Nevertheless, be as accurate as possible, and post all info that you think could be relevant.
tpowa seems to think the problems will go away with a new kernel with an upgraded alsa, so I assume nothing will be done until kernel 2.6.25 which should be out in a few days.
In the meantime, I will try and see if a upgrade of alsa to 1.0.16 works for me - compiling at the moment.

Blind

Bapman · 2008-03-24 17:08:45

Ok !

I will just wait for 2.6.25 and I would fill a bug report if it still doesn't work with 2.6.25 !
Thanks for the reply

Blind · 2008-03-24 17:49:07

n/p

Well, no-go for the alsa-driver/lib update. The problem is that Arch's stock kernel compilation flags get in the way (they make sense if you don't need the new alsa drivers). I don't have the time to go through a kernel compilation.

Cross your fingers that the new kernel will incorporate the new alsa drivers...

Cheers,
Blind

schivmeister · 2008-03-24 18:01:47

... and then you wait for 2.6.26

Bapman · 2008-03-24 19:07:48

I think I will switch back to Ubuntu if it is not solved soon ! Even if Arch is far better, it is quite annoying !

Last edited by Bapman (2008-03-24 19:08:04)

JaQoB · 2008-03-29 10:34:27

We want sound! We want sound! We want sound!

zyghom · 2008-03-29 10:49:14

my second laptop is same: Dell Inspiron 640m
there is Kubuntu 7.10 on it since ever
at the beginning there was same problem
then I downloaded and compiled alsa
so it worked out
then upgrade for kernel came and since then no problems

what I want to say is: this is not Arch issue
first
and second: mentioned above Dell 640m has NO MIC build in

chimpyw · 2008-03-29 13:03:05

I don't know if this will work for anyone else and I can't check to see if I can remember correctly but...

What I did was cat /proc/asound/card0/id or cat /proc/asound/cards. Either way I did cat on some files around /proc/asound until I found one that gave me one of the codes (ie. ALC262) from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelHdaDriverOptions as posted before to narrow it down to a list of options, then did the options snd-hda-intel for each possble value. The one that worked for me was 'basic' which is probaby one of those failsafe type ones, but I had sound working so I was happy with it

Don't know if this will work for everyone but I doesn't hurt to try I suppose.

Bapman · 2008-03-29 14:37:20

zyghom wrote:

I downloaded and compiled alsa
so it worked out
then upgrade for kernel came and since then no problems
what I want to say is: this is not Arch issue
first

I tried compiling alsa 1.0.16 before it was released in the repo, then I tried kernel 2.6.25 and still no sound ! Dell 640m sound chipset seems to work better with the new kernel and alsa than the one from Dell m1330.
Sound problems with Ubuntu on kernel 2.6.24 have been corrected (works for me with Hardy 8.04 live cd), so it might be related to Arch !

Concerning options for snd-hda-intel, I tried all for my sound chipset without success

Bapman · 2008-03-29 16:08:05

I wrote a bug report for stac9228 chipset (Dell M1330 and Vostro) :
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10009

T-Dawg · 2008-03-30 12:07:41

In the 6.24 kernel, snd_hda_intel has now included a subset of codecs that go long with that card. Find out which codec you need by booting into to your old kernel and taking note of the chip when running alsamixer. For me its conexant so my kernel needs to have:

CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CONEXANT=m

Bapman · 2008-03-30 16:16:35

No improve with kernel 2.6.24.4 .

T-Dawg, I don't understand why I should boot with my old kernel. With 2.6.24 kernel, alsamixer returns the good chip (Sigmatel), the sound doesn't work though (until I perform a pm-suspend ! After suspend, it works !).
In abs kernel config :

CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SIGMATEL=y

So I guess this is OK. Should I replace "y" by "m" and perform a makepkg (I have never compiled my own kernel ) ?

Last edited by Bapman (2008-03-30 16:32:02)

Blind · 2008-03-30 17:49:06

zyghom wrote:

my second laptop is same: Dell Inspiron 640m
there is Kubuntu 7.10 on it since ever
at the beginning there was same problem
then I downloaded and compiled alsa
so it worked out
then upgrade for kernel came and since then no problems
what I want to say is: this is not Arch issue
first
and second: mentioned above Dell 640m has NO MIC build in

Hehe, I know there is no mic in the 640m

I am also aware that the new alsa 1.0.16 has a fix for it. I was just too lazy to recompile the kernel with the appropriate flags, and then install the alsa drivers. I was hoping that the new alsa drivers would be merged in the next kernel release. If that is not the case, I will have to start thinking about compiling stuff...but I am just not motivated at the moment.

Bapman: AFAIK you have to enable sound, but not compile any modules. Then download the alsa-driver package from the alsa webpage, and then it should work. The generic Arch kernel kernel26 does not work because there the drivers are compiled. This leads to a conflict, something with snd_verbose_printk, or similar. So again: enable sound, but don't compile any drivers. Instead, install the ALSA drivers from their web page. The recompiling of the kernel was exactly the thing that I didn't feel like doing yet.

Cheers,
Blind

Last edited by Blind (2008-03-30 17:54:22)

Bapman · 2008-03-30 19:03:38

I am not sure I am understanding this !

So I have to download alsa drivers from alsa webpage. But I have to compile them (it is a source package). Am I wrong ?
Then do I need to recompile my kernel to disable Alsa ?

mini · 2008-03-31 12:20:35

I am having trouble getting my onboard microphone to work. I have a HP 6910p, and I am running Arch64. With the standard Alsa install, the speakers and headphone jack worked perfectly, but not the microphone, so I cannot use skype.

# lspci | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)

Edit:
I have downgraded kernel to 2.6.22 but it did not help- microphone was not working. I am back on 2.6.24-ARCH - not solved

Last edited by mini (2008-03-31 18:31:46)

Blind · 2008-03-31 17:30:14

Bapman wrote:

I am not sure I am understanding this !
So I have to download alsa drivers from alsa webpage. But I have to compile them (it is a source package). Am I wrong ?
Then do I need to recompile my kernel to disable Alsa ?

Ok.
1. compile the kernel with alsa sound ENABLED, but NO driver modules
2. download the alsa-driver package from the alsa webpage
3. compile the alsa-driver package and install

Then you should be good to go, AFAIK.

Regards,
Blind

Bapman · 2008-04-01 02:00:55

Dankeschön, Ich werde es treiben.

Blind · 2008-04-01 14:25:09

Too much information, bapman, too much information!

"I werde es treiben" ('I will do it?') has a slightly different meaning in German...

Nichts fuer ungut.

I will start to look into this as well on the weekend.

Cheers,
Blind

Bapman · 2008-04-04 23:02:33

Hey it works !
I didn't have to recompile my kernel (in fact... I couldn't !!! Yeah I really suck ). But I reinstalled alsa-drivers and it did the trick !
So download alsa-driver from alsa website, extract it and then :

1) ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-card-options=hda-codec-sigmatel

2) make

3) sudo make install-modules

4) reboot

Apparently it could work with other sound chips (like Realtek), just change --with-card-options in ./configure line !

venox · 2008-04-05 00:45:54

@Bapman
It would be better to PKGBUILD it, on the Arch way.

Anyway, great to hear that it's working again for you guys

Enredante · 2008-04-05 11:56:02

Bapman wrote:

Hey it works !
I didn't have to recompile my kernel (in fact... I couldn't !!! Yeah I really suck ). But I reinstalled alsa-drivers and it did the trick !
So download alsa-driver from alsa website, extract it and then :
1) ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-card-options=hda-codec-sigmatel

2) make

3) sudo make install-modules

4) reboot
Apparently it could work with other sound chips (like Realtek), just change --with-card-options in ./configure line !

IT WORKS!!!

Thank you very, very, very much, Bapman.
I have sound in my XPSm1330. It was not impossible.

Regards from Spain.

... And again: Thank you very much (and not only to Bapman, but to Archlinux community, of course)

Arch Linux

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