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kensai

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From: Puerto Rico

Registered: 2005-06-03

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Re: 2008.06 Release

Yeah, I noticed that after the fact - blame me for not staying on the ball.

You said it, I didn't.

/me hides

Actually I'm pretty sure that's Allan's fault.

Dusty

Finally, we can blame Allan, is his fault, I just know.

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Allan

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From: Brisbane, AU

Registered: 2007-06-09

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Re: 2008.06 Release

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Sjoden

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From: WA

Registered: 2007-08-16

Posts: 380

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Re: 2008.06 Release

Someone sure is eager to place the blame....

(looks at kensai)

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Ilya

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From: Russia, Saint-Petersburg

Registered: 2007-08-16

Posts: 98

Re: 2008.06 Release

Installer (FTP/ISO) works fine, as usual
Thanks, devs!

P.S. I don't like BASE by default, choice is always better.

Pudge

Arch Linux f@h Team Member

Registered: 2006-01-23

Posts: 300

Re: 2008.06 Release

There were only two things I noticed, both are trivial.

1.  The FTP install does not put .bash_profile and .bashrc files in /root.  Just a minor inconvience.  Don't know if the CD install method does the same or not.

2.  Like others, I am not a big fan of the complete base install.  However, it just requires a little time with pacman to remove what is not wanted, so no biggie.

Other than that, great .iso and .img files.

Pudge

Last edited by Pudge (2008-07-08 01:58:28)

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rson451

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From: Annapolis, MD USA

Registered: 2007-04-15

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Re: 2008.06 Release

for those of you who don't like the base by default thing, there is a bug report you can vote on to express your opinion.  i believe the link is in this thread somewhere.

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Ilya

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From: Russia, Saint-Petersburg

Registered: 2007-08-16

Posts: 98

Re: 2008.06 Release

for those of you who don't like the base by default thing, there is a bug report you can vote on to express your opinion.  i believe the link is in this thread somewhere.

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10752

ozar

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From: USA

Registered: 2005-02-18

Posts: 1,686

Re: 2008.06 Release

This release worked perfectly for me.

The first time I tried to install it things didn't go so well due to no internet connection (see this post):

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=51399

...but after installing a spare NIC in order to have a working connection, the FTP install went without a hitch, and no installation guide was needed.

Quick and easy, it was!

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ozar

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From: USA

Registered: 2005-02-18

Posts: 1,686

Re: 2008.06 Release

The FTP install does not put .bash_profile and .bashrc files in /root.  Just a minor inconvience.

Hi, Pudge!

I ran into that issue as well, so I just copied them from /etc/skel to /root.

Just curious, though... is that the proper way to do it, or should it have been done a different way?

Thanks.

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stefan1975

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Registered: 2007-04-16

Posts: 195

Re: 2008.06 Release

with Arch iso "releases" generally loosely linked to kernel updates, does the recent 2.6.26 kernel mean that quite soon after the 2008.06 iso we will see a 2008.08 iso or something, or a 2008.06-1? Or will 2.6.26 be skipped  iso-wise?

anyway it would be great to see it in the repos.

stefan

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dolby

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From: 1992

Registered: 2006-08-08

Posts: 1,581

Re: 2008.06 Release

with Arch iso "releases" generally loosely linked to kernel updates, does the recent 2.6.26 kernel mean that quite soon after the 2008.06 iso we will see a 2008.08 iso or something, or a 2008.06-1? Or will 2.6.26 be skipped  iso-wise?

anyway it would be great to see it in the repos.

stefan

Highly doubt there will be a new iso release.
Whats the new feature in 2.6.26 you are so anxious about?

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neotuli

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From: London, UK

Registered: 2004-07-06

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Re: 2008.06 Release

Actually, yes. There will be. While there was one very recently, I actually believe in sticking to the established schedule. You can expect a release soon after the kernel hits core.

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dolby

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From: 1992

Registered: 2006-08-08

Posts: 1,581

Re: 2008.06 Release

dont forget to fix http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10752 then

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phrakture

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From: behind you

Registered: 2003-10-29

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Re: 2008.06 Release

dont forget to fix http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10752 then

http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev … 07185.html

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dolby

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From: 1992

Registered: 2006-08-08

Posts: 1,581

Re: 2008.06 Release

Yes my reply was posted here before that email reached my gmail inbox

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jealma

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From: The Netherlands

Registered: 2008-01-03

Posts: 71

Re: 2008.06 Release

I've tried the new release, both the i686 img and i686 ISO, but I think it has a bug. My hardware clock is set to UTC. Every time after an install when I boot the newly installed system, my clock is off by a few hours. I then need to install the 'ntp'-package and use 'ntpdate pool.ntp.org' to set my system clock and then 'hwclock --systohc' to set my hardware clock. Could you please look into my problem? I think it is not related to my computer or other OS'es.

Last edited by jealma (2008-07-25 10:56:22)

Vintendo

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From: Netherlands

Registered: 2008-04-21

Posts: 375

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Re: 2008.06 Release

The time is correct in your bios(that was my problem)?

Last edited by Vintendo (2008-07-25 11:13:15)

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litemotiv

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Registered: 2008-08-01

Posts: 5,026

Re: 2008.06 Release

I've tried the new release, both the i686 img and i686 ISO, but I think it has a bug. My hardware clock is set to UTC. Every time after an install when I boot the newly installed system, my clock is off by a few hours. I then need to install the 'ntp'-package and use 'ntpdate pool.ntp.org' to set my system clock and then 'hwclock --systohc' to set my hardware clock. Could you please look into my problem? I think it is not related to my computer or other OS'es.

I just installed Arch for the first time and can confirm this, i actually considered putting it in the wiki as it's kind of confusing at first (didn't know if it was by design or whatnot).

Also, resetting UTC and syncing with openntpd produced some unconvenient Ext3 metadata errors on my new SSD ('attempt to access beyond end of device'), which couldn't be corrected without booting into single user and forcing a full check.

correction: the last part didn't have anything to do with the system time

Last edited by litemotiv (2008-08-02 11:35:24)

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dolby

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From: 1992

Registered: 2006-08-08

Posts: 1,581

Re: 2008.06 Release

Any news on the 2008.08 release?

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andreaorru

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From: Sardinia, Italy

Registered: 2008-07-03

Posts: 20

Re: 2008.06 Release

Any news on the 2008.08 release?

Snowman

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From: Montreal, Canada

Registered: 2004-08-20

Posts: 5,212

Re: 2008.06 Release

Any news on the 2008.08 release?

Pierre has started to work on it. I don't know how advanved it is.

neotuli

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From: London, UK

Registered: 2004-07-06

Posts: 1,204

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Re: 2008.06 Release

Actually what Pierre is working on is a special Froscon release. Gerhard (gerbra) is also working on this effort. The froscon release will be a special dual-architecture core cd, using the latest kernel/packages and the previous installer scripts. So if you happen to be going to Froscon this year, be sure to check it out!

As for a regular 2008.08 release, it's coming, no worries.

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Pierre

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From: Bonn

Registered: 2004-07-05

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Re: 2008.06 Release

As neotuile mentioned its a special release for the upcoming FrOSCon. I have provided a torrent because it might be usefull for somone; not everybody might be to travel to Bonn/germany to get such a CD. ;-)

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ibendiben

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Registered: 2007-10-10

Posts: 519

Re: 2008.06 Release

I was watching this Archlinux install on google videos, following a link on Archux, reading a text from a recent Debian convert
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … 0565640601
And then I remembered installing Arch a couple of times myself and I thought:
Wouldn't it be better to change the yes/no dialog questions (In the video those questions are asked at 08:07-08:50) about booting from:

-usb
-firewire
-pcmcia
-nsf-shares
-software raid
-software raid mdb partition arrays
-lvm2 volumes
-encrypted
-kernels with custom dsdt file

Into a checkbox layout? Since most users answer those with "no" anyway that would spare some ticking time wouldn't it?

Also I found, that after you choose "no" (or "yes" I guess) for the last question, the installer starts thinkering...
...for quite some time...
...leaving me a little bit worried about what's going on. (which maid me think once that I didn't answered the question yet after which I pressed [enter] again which was not good, because it influenced the latter question, about vi/nano).

So my second suggestion is to put a dialog "thinking..." screen right behind the questions, before the thinkering starts.

What do you think?

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cr7

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Registered: 2006-11-28

Posts: 103

Re: 2008.06 Release

As for a regular 2008.08 release, it's coming, no worries.

2008.09, now