Small freezes on desktop

quizzelsnatch · 2008-10-26 02:26:03

I finished setting up an archlinux install, recently migrating from borking my ubuntu install. I got everything set up perfectly fine, but often while using kde4 i get small 'hiccups' and the mouse will freeze, sometimes even audio will stutter, and then it will unfreeze and go back to normal. This happens a lot and is quite annoying, any suggestions? need more info?

edit: oh, and it doesn't matter if all i have running is kde4 or more programs. it does it either way.

Last edited by quizzelsnatch (2008-10-26 04:37:29)

skymt · 2008-10-27 00:08:31

Maybe your computer can't handle KDE 4, it's a bit of a hog. What are your system's specs?

It could also be a video problem. ATI, Nvidia, or Intel? And do you use the closed drivers?

flako · 2008-10-27 16:28:46

Hi! I'm new to archlinux and i seem to have the same problem, i was going to make a new post but I can post here. I'm using gnome and have an ATI Radeon X1950XT card, it worked fine in ubuntu, so I think it has to do with the drivers or something, as these freezups appear less often when I turn compiz-fusion off. I'll post my Xorg conf here too:

# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg
# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg

Section "ServerLayout"

# PS/2 Mouse not detected
# Serial Mouse not detected
    Identifier     "Xorg Configured"
    Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
#    FontPath     "/usr/share/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
#    FontPath     "/usr/share/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
    RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/defoma/CID"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor
    Load  "dbe"
    Load  "dri"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "glx"
    Load  "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
    Load  "type1"
    Load  "freetype"
    Load  "record"
    #   Load  "synaptics"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option        "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "keyboard"
    Option        "CoreKeyboard"
    Option        "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option        "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option        "XkbLayout" "se"
    Option        "XkbVariant" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Serial Mouse"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "Protocol" "Microsoft"
    Option        "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
    Option        "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
    Option        "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
    Option        "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "PS/2 Mouse"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "Protocol" "auto"
    Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option        "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option        "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
    Option        "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
    Option        "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "USB Mouse"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option        "SendCoreEvents" "true"
    Option        "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
    Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option        "Buttons" "5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#    VertRefresh  50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
    #  Default modes distilled from
    #      "VESA and Industry Standards and Guide for Computer Display Monitor
    #       Timing", version 1.0, revision 0.8, adopted September 17, 1998.
    #  $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/vesamodes,v 1.4 1999/11/18 16:52:17 tsi Exp $
    # 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    HorizSync    28.0 - 96.0
    VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0
    ModeLine     "640x350" 31.5 640 672 736 832 350 382 385 445 +hsync -vsync
    ModeLine     "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "720x400" 35.5 720 756 828 936 400 401 404 446 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "640x480" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine     "640x480" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine     "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine     "640x480" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine     "800x600" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "800x600" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "800x600" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "800x600" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "800x600" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync +vsync interlace
    ModeLine     "1024x768" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine     "1024x768" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine     "1024x768" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1024x768" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1152x864" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1280x960" 108.0 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1280x960" 148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 960 961 964 1011 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1280x1024" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1280x1024" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1600x1200" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1600x1200" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1600x1200" 189.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1600x1200" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1792x1344" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448 1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1792x1344" 261.0 1792 1888 2104 2456 1344 1345 1348 1417 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1856x1392" 218.3 1856 1952 2176 2528 1392 1393 1396 1439 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1856x1392" 288.0 1856 1984 2208 2560 1392 1393 1396 1500 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1920x1440" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1920x1440" 297.0 1920 2064 2288 2640 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1800x1440" 230.0 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1800x1440" 250.0 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "640x480" 43.2 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 509 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "768x576" 35.0 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "768x576" 42.9 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 601 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "768x576" 45.5 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 602 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "768x576" 51.8 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 605 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "768x576" 62.6 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 611 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "800x600" 68.2 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 636 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1024x768" 113.3 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 814 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1152x864" 81.6 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1152x864" 119.7 1152 1224 1352 1552 864 865 868 907 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1152x864" 143.5 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 915 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1280x960" 124.5 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1001 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1280x960" 129.9 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1280x960" 179.0 1280 1376 1520 1760 960 961 964 1017 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1280x1024" 191.0 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1085 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1400x1050" 122.6 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1400x1050" 149.3 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1094 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1400x1050" 155.8 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1400x1050" 179.3 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1103 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1400x1050" 214.4 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1112 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine     "1600x1200" 280.6 1600 1728 1904 2208 1200 1201 1204 1271 -hsync +vsync
    Option        "DPMS" "true"
#    HorizSync    28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
    Option        "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
    Option        "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
    Option        "DPMS" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "vesa"
    VendorName  "All"
    BoardName   "All"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
    Driver      "fglrx"
    BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device     "Card0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth     16
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     1
        Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     4
        Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     8
        Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     15
        Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     16
        Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     24
        Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1680x1050"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     32
        Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0"
    Device     "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
    Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
    DefaultDepth     24
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Mode         0666
EndSection

Overall i'm very happy with Archlinux though, pacman and ABS are really handy, and im loving the community already

lamnk · 2008-10-27 17:45:41

I too wanted to post an entry about this problem ! My system freezed randomly in about 1 second (couldn't move mouse, couldn't type) then back to normal. It happened not only with firefox, but with small programs as well.

But now after i turned compiz off, my laptop runs smoothly again (with or without the proprietary ATI driver).

quizzelsnatch · 2008-10-30 03:21:07

Aw, yes I probably should tell you all that.
I have a core 2 duo, 1.86ghz, 2gb ram, x1800xt (256mb), proprietary drivers for the video card and 2 monitors @ 1680x1050 with big desktop. With ubuntu I never had any problems with it stuttering, though with gentoo it also does the same thing. I really like gentoo and arch, but they seem to be unstable for me compared to debian, which is sad, because I like the whole minimalist thing (but I like having full use of my desktop more). Also, arch's implementation of KDE 4 is a little bit nicer.

EDIT: also, I think I had the same problem with only using one monitor before I turned on big desktop.

Last edited by quizzelsnatch (2008-10-30 03:22:17)

lomandel · 2008-10-30 04:15:17

Im new to arch too, just came over from ubuntu. This is happening to me as well.. I remember reading something about this a few days ago.. Ill try to remember where i saw it, and post here when i do

flako · 2008-10-31 01:24:36

I tried removing all compiz-fusion related packages, rebooting and then installing them from abs and compile them myself, however I still got the same problem, stuttering and "hack" in the music while the whole desktop just freezes for a second. Probably related to the fglrx driver then...

EDIT: Found a solution on the archlinux forums http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 55#p442655 this should be added to the wiki or something, I think I'll see to that tomorrow, now I need some sleep

Last edited by flako (2008-10-31 02:03:26)

kishd · 2008-10-31 04:16:40

This blog adds a little more info.

http://www.v13.gr/blog/?p=8

lamnk · 2008-10-31 21:55:02

Thanks, i will try this

Arch Linux

#1 2008-10-26 02:26:03

Small freezes on desktop

#2 2008-10-27 00:08:31

Re: Small freezes on desktop

#3 2008-10-27 16:28:46

Re: Small freezes on desktop

#4 2008-10-27 17:45:41

Re: Small freezes on desktop

#5 2008-10-30 03:21:07

Re: Small freezes on desktop

#6 2008-10-30 04:15:17

Re: Small freezes on desktop

#7 2008-10-31 01:24:36

Re: Small freezes on desktop

#8 2008-10-31 04:16:40

Re: Small freezes on desktop

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Re: Small freezes on desktop

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