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#1 2004-09-18 08:28:26

bruno
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Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

Hi,

I'm looking for something between ROX and XFM, it seems.
Something like a GTK version of XFM to use with XFCE4.

I don't like spatial, that's the only reason why I ditched ROX.
I've been using XFM lately, but it's not GTK.


Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Bruno

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#2 2004-09-18 08:35:26

oscar
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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

enligthenment 0.17 is a DE, and they have developed a filemanager in GTK2.
I've used it, and I found it pretty ok, although I could't figure out a way to configure it haha
can't remember it's name though, but it was either...

nevermind! here is a link:
http://evidence.sourceforge.net/

otherwise - nautilus is pretty nice smile


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#3 2004-09-18 09:01:30

bruno
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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

Nautilus depends too much on GNOME.

This is the best one I've found so far, would rock in GTK2:

http://wolfpack.twu.net/Endeavour2/

Bruno

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#4 2004-09-18 09:22:20

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

How about emelfm or emelfm2.  The first is in Extra.

or gentoo, which is in current.

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#5 2004-09-18 09:23:15

oscar
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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

GTK 1.X isn't that bad, but it's not that funny either.
I wouldn't be suprised if someone is actually porting that app to gtk2 right now smile


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#6 2004-09-18 09:26:27

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

Cotton wrote:

How about emelfm or emelfm2.  The first is in Extra.

or gentoo, which is in current.

please, read his post before posting!
he didn't want a spatial filebrowser tongue


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#7 2004-09-18 09:44:22

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

oscar_ wrote:
Cotton wrote:

How about emelfm or emelfm2.  The first is in Extra.

or gentoo, which is in current.

please, read his post before posting!
he didn't want a spatial filebrowser tongue

My misunderstanding - I thought spatial was where a new window opened every time you enter a new subdirectory?

The applications above don't do that.

Anyway, another more Endeavour-like app is xwc at:

http://xwc.sourceforge.net/

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#8 2004-09-18 10:00:04

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

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#9 2004-09-18 10:07:37

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

just use Nautilus and if you dont' like the spatial mode {I LIKEEEEEEE it}, then just get gtweakui [al package]
then re gtweakui-nautilus there you enable the
ALWAYS USE BROWSER VIEW

google next time

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#10 2004-09-18 10:20:45

bruno
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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

See how difficult it is? wink

Filer: page is so slow that not even Google's cache shows the complete page.

Nautilus: depends on GNOME, not just GTK but a lot of dependencies. Plus it doesn't work very nicely under other DEs like XFCE.

XWC: same as XFE. I like it and have been using it, but it's not GTK. Endeavour has the same kind of interface but it's GTK1.

EmelFM and Gentoo: I'm looking for non MidnightCommander-like file managers. One pane should be for the directory tree, the other for files.

Spatial is a completely different thing, means opening a new window everytime you click on a folder (which pollutes the screen) or going into that directory (forcing you to open a new window if you want to drag a file between directories). Browser or navigational mode is a two-pane mode, one pane for the tree, other for the files. Much more logical to my way of working.

I'd love to see a GTK2 version of Endeavour2. Or a two-pane (tree and files) version of ROX-Filer.


Bruno

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#11 2004-09-18 15:22:38

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

what about xfce's file manager?

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#12 2004-09-18 15:39:34

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

About XFFM (XFCE File Manager), looks a bit better for the next version 4.2 :

http://www.xfce.org/images/screenshots/xfce42.png

But I've tried it on a CVS build and didn't liked it as much as XFE.
And it's not quite a tree pane + file pane design, it's a "triangle tree" in every pane tongue

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#13 2004-09-18 15:48:18

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

Aterm  wink


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#14 2004-09-18 16:15:00

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

Mr Green wrote:

Aterm  wink

lol

alternative is a brilliant filemanager: konqueror

see here, what it can do:

http://daperi.freelinuxhost.com/flow/konquerorFM.jpg

EDIT: i know, you need something in gtk2, but if something like this would exist that uses gtk2 and has all features konqueror has, i would use it --- konqueror you need a little hdd-space for installation and have to wait once that kdeinit starts, but then, it's great :-)


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#15 2004-09-18 16:53:32

bruno
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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

dp wrote:

i know, you need something in gtk2, but if something like this would exist that uses gtk2 and has all features konqueror has, i would use it --- konqueror you need a little hdd-space for installation and have to wait once that kdeinit starts, but then, it's great :-)

Have a look at Endeavour2. It's GTK1, but since you're not working in KDE (or so it seems) it might be a lighter alternative. I have to google if it's possible to use AA fonts in GTK1 somehow.

Of course Konqueror has the advantage of being a web browser has well wink

EDIT: Hmmm... http://gdkxft.sourceforge.net/
EDIT2: Damn. Seems it's not very stable tongue

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#16 2004-09-18 17:48:26

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

bruno wrote:
dp wrote:

i know, you need something in gtk2, but if something like this would exist that uses gtk2 and has all features konqueror has, i would use it --- konqueror you need a little hdd-space for installation and have to wait once that kdeinit starts, but then, it's great :-)

Have a look at Endeavour2. It's GTK1, but since you're not working in KDE (or so it seems) it might be a lighter alternative.

i run kdeinit from x-startup, because i use some kde apps quite often (kmail, korganizer, amarok ...), so once a day i'm waiting to kdeinit to start anyway

endeavour2 is gtk1 (what makes it look strange on a 15" screen in UXGA - everything small) and it's front remembers too much on windows (and this makes me a little bit nervous - out of custom ;-) ; it's almost an instinct to save files every 2 min under windows or want to if the gui looks similar)

it is of course a lighter alternative (konqueror has momentum starting), and if it would be gtk2 it would be a really great tool

bruno wrote:

I have to google if it's possible to use AA fonts in GTK1 somehow.

Of course Konqueror has the advantage of being a web browser has well wink

EDIT: Hmmm... http://gdkxft.sourceforge.net/
EDIT2: Damn. Seems it's not very stable tongue

Bruno

gdkxft looks promising, but is in the beginning - and i don't give gtk1 a really great future - let's hope someone ports the rest of gtk1-apps to gtk2 ;-)


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#17 2004-09-18 17:54:59

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

did a little search for gtk2 fm's

http://freshmeat.net/projects/egofm/
looks very promising

some docs for ideas, if someone of you starts a new fm-project:
http://evolvedoo.sourceforge.net/abstract/
http://evolvedoo.sourceforge.net/oo-file-manager.html


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#18 2004-09-19 12:54:53

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

btw - thank you, everyone!

I fell in love with emelFM2 - it's a bit buggy, but we can probably work it out :]


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#19 2004-09-19 14:34:33

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

oscar_ wrote:

btw - thank you, everyone!

I fell in love with emelFM2 - it's a bit buggy, but we can probably work it out :]

change the theme then it will rock !!!!!!

tongue


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#20 2004-09-20 14:37:13

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

It seems that no one has beaten Micro$oft Explorer yet  lol

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#21 2004-09-20 14:41:55

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

Martillo1 wrote:

It seems that no one has beaten Micro$oft Explorer yet  lol

Except for Konqueror... but... wait.. it's not GTK...

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#22 2004-09-20 16:06:11

bruno
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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

Asked the same question at FreeBSDForums and Velocity was suggested:

http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/sho … adid=25164

Velocity is the new GTK2 version of GFileRunner:

http://gfilerunner.sourceforge.net/index.php?menu=1

Anyone tried it? Looks interesting.


Bruno

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#23 2004-09-20 16:45:54

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

Not sure velocity FM is even maintained anymore as the homepage no longer exists. Only thing velocity I can even find is the velocity template engine.

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#24 2004-09-20 17:02:40

bruno
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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

Yeah I know. Although if you read that FreeBSDForums post there is a FreeBSD port already... strange tongue

But GFileRunner is up and running, although it's GTK1. Have a look.

EDIT: It's not a "no longer exists" thing, but a "doesn't exist yet" one...


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#25 2004-09-20 17:23:12

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Re: Any non-spatial, non-MC, GTK file manager out there?

dp wrote:

did a little search for gtk2 fm's
http://freshmeat.net/projects/egofm/
looks very promising

I have been searching for a fm to replace konqueror. This egofm looks good. Do we have a package?


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