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smakked

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To KDE 4.1 Users

To all who use KDE 4.1?
Do you just put up with the graphical glitches when using desktop effects or is there a work around for them.
The little glitches like when you close a terminal it leaves an out line on the desktop of the window , and when you first log in the screen is garbles till you right click. I am using an Nvidia card and have tried it on 3 diff hard ware configs and all have the same issues, which is bad because i quiet like KDE but these little things annoy the fuck out of me.

ANy ideas?

Last edited by smakked (2008-11-18 12:53:40)

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zyghom

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

I'm using KDE 4.1 for long time with 8600M nvidia and I don't see such problems
you might tune your xorg.conf I suppose

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

X.org 1.5 on gentoo works fine, X.org 1.4 on Arch - glitches - http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 95#p450495

Solution: kdemod-legacy untill KDE 4.4 or maybe 4.3 will be released

deej

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Registered: 2008-02-08

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

I'm using an Nvidia card ( 8500GT ) together with Desktop Effects ( *not* compiz; from the 'Settings' window ) and aside from
the occasional garbled icon in the system-tray ( which is *** really annoying *** ), I've no complaints. I expect people will
want to know your card type and to see your xorg.conf before any particular help can be offered. Let's have the gory details
and we'll see if anything obvious jumps out.

P

[EDIT

Are you using the std KDE or KDEMOD ?

Last edited by deej (2008-11-18 13:23:28)

Redroar

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Registered: 2008-03-17

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS w/ standard KDE 4.1.3 from [Extra], and Xorg 1.4.2, works fine other than the systray problem deej mentioned. Also, I noticed that with wobbly windows it gets really worked up when you resize the window. Snaps and bounces around.

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Registered: 2005-05-15

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

To all who use KDE 4.1?
Do you just put up with the graphical glitches when using desktop effects or is there a work around for them.
The little glitches like when you close a terminal it leaves an out line on the desktop of the window , and when you first log in the screen is garbles till you right click. I am using an Nvidia card and have tried it on 3 diff hard ware configs and all have the same issues, which is bad because i quiet like KDE but these little things annoy the fuck out of me.

ANy ideas?

Yeah, I've seen this kind of stuff. I usually manage to tame it by playing with some of the advanced settings under System Settings / Desktop. When I get tired of it, I sometimes switch over to Compiz as window manager (still under KDE4.1), which gets rid of some of the annoying stuff but brings a few of its own.

My card is an Nvidia Quadro 570M in a Thinkpad T61p.

Nvidia seems to be coming out with fairly regular updates to their 64-bit drivers, so I'm hoping that, between these presumed driver improvements and the development of KDE4.x, things will be picture perfect one of these days.

And there's always OpenBox and XFCE4 (which works well with Compiz) when I've just had enough of KDE. That's an advantage of Linux. It's not a big deal to change desktop environments or window managers altogether.

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smakked

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

Here is my xorg at the moment
I have tried it on 7900gt, 8800gt and 8800gtx and they all have the same issues.
But at the moment i am running xrender and that has helped a little but still get weird stuff going on. Maybe someone can help out here

bash-3.2# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf                                                 
Section "ServerLayout"                                                           
        Identifier     "X.org Configured"                                        
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0                                             
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"                                    
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"                                
EndSection                                                                       

Section "Files"
        RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
        ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" 
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"            
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"          
EndSection                                             

Section "Module"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load  "dri"   
        Load  "record"
        Load  "glx"   
        Load  "dbe"   
        Load  "xtrap" 
        Load  "freetype"
EndSection              

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "kbd"      
EndSection                     

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse" 
        Option      "Protocol" "auto"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"  
EndSection                                    

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Monitor Model" 
EndSection                           

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "nvidia"
        VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
        BoardName   "G71 [GeForce 7900 GT/GTO]"
        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"                
        Option   "UseEdidDpi"   "FALSE"        
        Option   "DPI"   "96 x 96"             
        Option         "Coolbits" "1"          
        Option  "NoLogo" "True"                
        Option  "RenderAccel" "True"           
        Option  "TripleBuffer" "True"          
        Option  "BackingStore" "True"          
        Option  "PixmapCacheSize" "300000"     
        Option  "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True"
        Option      "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"      


EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"  
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        SubSection "Display" 
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     1   
        EndSubSection         
        SubSection "Display"  
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     4   
        EndSubSection         
        SubSection "Display"  
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     8   
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     15
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     16
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
        Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

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flamelab

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

Here is my xorg at the moment
I have tried it on 7900gt, 8800gt and 8800gtx and they all have the same issues.
But at the moment i am running xrender and that has helped a little but still get weird stuff going on. Maybe someone can help out here

bash-3.2# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf                                                 
Section "ServerLayout"                                                           
        Identifier     "X.org Configured"                                        
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0                                             
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"                                    
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"                                
EndSection                                                                       

Section "Files"
        RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
        ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" 
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"            
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"          
EndSection                                             

Section "Module"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load  "dri"   
        Load  "record"
        Load  "glx"   
        Load  "dbe"   
        Load  "xtrap" 
        Load  "freetype"
EndSection              

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "kbd"      
EndSection                     

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse" 
        Option      "Protocol" "auto"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"  
EndSection                                    

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Monitor Model" 
EndSection                           

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "nvidia"
        VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
        BoardName   "G71 [GeForce 7900 GT/GTO]"
        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"                
        Option   "UseEdidDpi"   "FALSE"        
        Option   "DPI"   "96 x 96"             
        Option         "Coolbits" "1"          
        Option  "NoLogo" "True"                
        Option  "RenderAccel" "True"           
        Option  "TripleBuffer" "True"          
        Option  "BackingStore" "True"          
        Option  "PixmapCacheSize" "300000"     
        Option  "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True"
        Option      "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"      


EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"  
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        SubSection "Display" 
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     1   
        EndSubSection         
        SubSection "Display"  
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     4   
        EndSubSection         
        SubSection "Display"  
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     8   
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     15
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     16
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
        Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Make a Xorg.conf according to this section of this guide: http://translate.google.com/translate?u … l=el&tl=en

the translation of google translate is crappy but you will understant , in general, what the author means.

smakked

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

Cheers flamelab i will and then report back to you

Last edited by smakked (2008-11-18 23:42:17)

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ralvez

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

The simplest solution to a bad (and I mean really bad) program is ... use something else. So, now I use openbox and it works fantastic!!
I do not think I'll go back to KDE anymore.

The current KDE is nothing but a disappointment.

R.

smakked

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

The simplest solution to a bad (and I mean really bad) program is ... use something else. So, now I use openbox and it works fantastic!!
I do not think I'll go back to KDE anymore.

The current KDE is nothing but a disappointment.

R.

True , but i like to use them all otherwise i get board of them
I like the intergration of KDE and GNOME any other WM i use for a few days then get rid of it they never look finished and you have to configure all the shit to get them to do what they should have done when you first installed them. One day some one will make a perfect desktop to suit just me

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Chrysalis

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Re: To KDE 4.1 Users

Get nvidia 180+ from aur if you plan on tweaking xorg to save you the trouble of doing it again in a few days when it hits extra since it enables most of those things by default now. Check nvnews for more info.

Plasma/kwin works fine here on a 6800gt with most stuff turned on. The only problems i have left is the yakuake outline thing mentioned above, parts of the panel going poof with wine apps (mousing over fixes it) and sometimes high cpu once every few days (restarting plasma fixes it). Not perfect indeed but as someone said above... i have a feeling theyll get it right soon.

Also, you can use kde with any WM you want untill they fix it, openbox kde session works great and takes about 20sec to install and use instead of kwin. Also, I have been having a ton of fun trying to make a kde desktop out of pekwm and wmii... addicted atm with wmii + kde apps ;p (kwin needs some tiling love)