Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

superstoned · 2009-04-04 09:29:07

Mark, you said KDE base did build again - it's not up on the server, I see? (/me anxious to see a couple of weeks of work in SVN)

markc · 2009-04-04 12:01:29

@superstoned: you're right, I paid attention to kdesupport and kdelibs and they started building a week ago so I just assumed kdebase was too. I'm just running a manual makepkg now to see where it fails.

It looks like the new provides=() line in qt-copy works better as I just installed qt-copy-4.5.0-2009040405 without any errors.

Maki · 2009-04-04 13:00:45

Is there a web page for the qwm window manager, i'm thinking of putting qt apps only on an P3, with arora. psi & stuff ...

markc · 2009-04-04 13:16:57

@Maki: you mean for some howto guides? It's based on http://qlwm.get.to/ but there is no joy there. Maybe try googling on qlwm. I've actually been using JWM for the last few weeks and it's very good. I'm undecided whether to try and keep hacking on qwm or just use JWM as, for me, qwm has a few serious annoyances. Nothing that would not be too hard to fix but my fledgling Qt skills are struggling to get off the ground. As it turns out I just ran qwm through qtcreator just before I read your message so if you have any particular questions then I'll either answer here or put up a bit of a page somewhere.

FWIW I'm trying to do the same thing as you on that P3 but also as an attempt at a complete (or near enough) distro of Qt-only apps. The main thing holding me back is a window manager I can actually live with and a Javascript shell interpreter.

wrc1944 · 2009-04-04 15:38:25

@markc,
Sorry I didn't get back sooner. After removing apr-util, I could remove unixodbc, and then update kde-svn to the 20090403's and iodbc. Worked fine, except on a reboot I've lost all kde-svn icons (panel, menus, and desktop). On Gentoo kdesvn, there was a new kde icons package renaming scheme last week (think it was mainly oxygen, but maybe it was for all other icons too- not sure).
I had to uninstall the previous kde icons package before I could emerge the new renamed package. This was with KDE 4.2.68 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090327. Could my kde-svn Arch icon problem be related? Here's the output I got, which seemed normal.

 bash-3.2# pacman -Syu                                                                                        
:: Synchronizing package databases...                                                                        
 kde-svn kde-svn      4.6K   49.8K/s 00:00:00 [##################################################] 100%                                                                                       
 kde-extra is up to date                                                                                     
 testing is up to date                                                                                       
 core is up to date                                                                                          
 extra is up to date                                                                                         
 community is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: exiv2: local (0.18.1-1) is newer than kde-extra (0.18-2009031315)
warning: kdesvn: local (1.2.4-1) is newer than kde-extra (1.2.2+-2009031315)
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: iodbc conflicts with unixodbc. Remove unixodbc? [Y/n] Y

Remove (1): unixodbc-2.2.14-1 [1.83 MB]

Total Removed Size:   1.83 MB

Targets (34): gtk-1.2.10-8 [1.84 MB]  iodbc-3.52.6-1 [0.92 MB]
              virtuoso-opensource-5.0.10-2009031316 [58.17 MB]  kdesupport-4.3.0-2009040318 [23.56 MB]
              kdelibs-4.3.0-2009040319 [17.63 MB]  kdepimlibs-4.3.0-2009040319 [3.37 MB]
              kdebase-4.3.0-2009040411 [71.06 MB]  extragear-base-4.3.0-2009040320 [0.78 MB]
              extragear-graphics-4.3.0-2009040320 [34.81 MB]  libmtp-0.3.0-2009033110 [0.40 MB]
              extragear-multimedia-4.3.0-2009040321 [11.65 MB]  kdenetwork-4.3.0-2009040320 [11.01 MB]
              kdepim-4.3.0-2009040320 [20.85 MB]  libssh2-0.18-2009031315 [0.18 MB]
              extragear-network-4.3.0-2009040321 [4.44 MB]  extragear-pim-4.3.0-2009040321 [0.79 MB]
              hal-cups-utils-1-2009031315 [0.01 MB]  kdeaccessibility-4.3.0-2009040319 [6.69 MB]
              kdeadmin-4.3.0-2009040319 [2.08 MB]  kdeartwork-4.3.0-2009040319 [27.74 MB]
              kdeedu-4.3.0-2009040319 [58.76 MB]  kdegames-4.3.0-2009040320 [39.96 MB]
              kdegraphics-4.3.0-2009040320 [4.88 MB]  kdemultimedia-4.3.0-2009040320 [2.22 MB]
              kdeplasma-addons-4.3.0-2009040320 [5.77 MB]  kdesdk-4.3.0-2009040319 [8.50 MB]
              kdetoys-4.3.0-2009040320 [1.42 MB]  kdeutils-4.3.0-2009040319 [3.25 MB]
              kdevelop-4.3.0-2009040320 [2.43 MB]  kdevplatform-4.3.0-2009040319 [2.98 MB]
              kdewebdev-4.3.0-2009040320 [4.68 MB]  koffice-2.0.0-2009040320 [47.72 MB]
              playground-libs-4.3.0-2009040320 [1.01 MB]  playground-base-plasma-4.3.0-2009033021 [6.56 MB]

Total Download Size:    488.10 MB
Total Installed Size:   1146.32 MB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n]  Y

Everything installed normally (had to force with -f, as usual). This was with the Arch qt-4.5. Maybe I need to go back to qt-copy or qt-snapshot, or is the icon problem unrelated to the qt version? Here's my current qt installed packages:

 bash-3.2# pacman -Qs qt
local/dbus-qt3 0.62-3 [0.25 MB]
    QT3 bindings for DBUS
local/kvirc 4.0-2009031315 [29.70 MB] (kde-svn-all gui)
    Qt4 based IRC-Client
local/poppler-qt 0.10.5-1 [0.68 MB]
    Poppler Qt bindings
local/pyqt 4.4.4-2 [15.69 MB]
    PyQt is a set of Python bindings for the Qt toolkit.
local/qca 2.0.1-2 [3.23 MB]
    Qt Cryptographic Architecture
local/qscintilla 2.3.2-2 [2.96 MB]
    QScintilla2 is a port to Qt4 of Neil Hodgson's Scintilla C++ editor class.
local/qt 4.5.0-4 [87.62 MB]
    A cross-platform application and UI framework
local/qt3 3.3.8-10 [33.79 MB]
    The QT gui toolkit.
local/tapioca-qt 0.14.1.2066-1 [0.56 MB]
    A set of convenience libraries to easily integrate VoIP in qt
local/telepathy-qt 0.14.1.2031-1 [0.71 MB]
    A set of convenience libraries to easily integrate VoIP in qt
bash-3.2#

One other thing- with your pre-compiled packages, is it recommended to periodically remove the .kde directory? I usually do that on Gentoo every week or two and reconfigure my custom look/feel etc. kde config settings to catch up on new features, etc.

markc · 2009-04-04 16:31:21

@wrc1944: sorry about this mess. Try the current qt-copy, it should install a lot cleaner. A lot (maybe all?) of the oxygen icons have been moved into kdesupport so it's possible we have some packages in some half way state. There is now a manually updated kdebase in the binary repo so the next build will, or should, be built on top of a current kdebase rather than something a couple of weeks old.... yes, here's hoping tomorrows build makes more sense and maybe even has icons again.

The latest qt-snapshot is just under half size compared to the last one, 56Mb, with just demos and examples disabled. It also is a newer code based on the 4.6 Git branch and now needs to be compiled "out of tree" in a build dir (that is how I know it's very recent code). Oops, I should try it out before I say it's any good.

eth-os-gui/juffed is quite a nice little Qt-only editor, fwiw. And while we're off-topic, http://v8.googlecode.com/svn/data/bench … 3/run.html is interesting, Opera 10 scores about 132 and arora is over 1200. More info here http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/04 … qt-script/ ... wow, I expected FF 3.0.8 to be as fast or faster than arora but FF only got 142, just a little faster than Opera10. Yep, arora just got 1150 that time. Anyone got access to Chrome on windows care to try that link out and report the result?

Heh, firefox-nightly only got 130... that means arora is nearly 10 times faster than "the others".

Last edited by markc (2009-04-04 17:56:42)

wrc1944 · 2009-04-04 18:12:49

@markc
Thanks for the quick reply. No need to apologize for the mess- I'm surely not complaining, and it's really not bad at all. Where else could we get precompiled kde-svn packages- it's very much appreciated, and I hope posting on the ocassional problem I might run into helps a bit in sorting stuff out.

I'll give qt-copy and/or qt-snapshot a try, and reinstall kde-svn-all later today or tomorrow, and report back. Other than the missing icons, it's running pretty well so far.

EDIT: OK- couldn't justify waiting to myself (as I don't have to compile thanks to your great packages ) so I did another kde-svn-all with your qt-copy, and icons are now back. I guess my only problem was trying to use the Arch qt-4.5. Everything seems normal so far, but I haven't had time to really try much.

BTW, at the google browser test, I get:
Arora- 432
FF-3.0.8 Grand Paradiso- 146
Konqueror (4.2.68 svn)- 134

I expected more out of konqueror.

Last edited by wrc1944 (2009-04-04 19:17:59)

markc · 2009-04-05 05:15:13

An associate with a dual intel 2.13ghtz cpu and 4gb ram running vista got 2115 with Chrome, 189 with FF and 70 with IE8 plus a popup saying it was freezing up.

I just now got, after a reboot on a amd 5200+ with 2gb ram, konqueror 118, arora 1240 and FF 3.0.8 got 140.

I have also been using, and liking, Opera 10 for the past few weeks so I tested it with qt-snapshot and qt-copy. It is unusable with qt-snapshot with so much garbage and corruption on the screen it's hard to see what's going on but all other Qt and KDE apps look fine under qt-snapshot. Reinstall qt-copy and Opera looks fine again, so those qt-copy patches are important to Opera. Not being an open source project means it can't be recompiled etc so it has reminded why I didn't want to rely on the likes of Opera (and skype) in the first place even though I like the interface once I gave it a shot.

extragear-multimedia compiled with amarok but mine comes up with a "Error message: Cannot load library /usr/lib/kde4/libamarok_collection-sqlcollection.so: (libmysqlclient.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)" so I'm not sure what that is about. At least amarok compiled for the first time in a month.

Update: ah, an ldd /usr/lib/kde4/libamarok_collection-sqlcollection.so reveals it can't load libmysqlclient.so.15 even though I have libmysqlclient installed. As it turns out, the latest libmysqlclient 5.1.33 has a libmysqlclient.so.16 so there is hope yet that amarok will work. Those of you NOT running [testing], and still have a libmysqlclient 5.1.32, may have a working amarok. But the next compile against mysql from testing will stuff that up. Doh, we're between a rock and a hard place.

At least I seem to have finally resolved some issues to get most of kde-svn to compile, and, being able to swap between extra/qt, qt-copy, qt-snapshot is at least possible with just some forced overwriting of some trivial files.

Last edited by markc (2009-04-05 05:31:29)

superstoned · 2009-04-05 12:21:03

Yihaaa, kdebase works again. Per-virtual-desktop-activities FTW

Now wait until Amarok is back. Darn, this is indeed a painful time ;-)

Thanks for all the efforts, Mark!

Maki · 2009-04-05 14:01:54

@markc, i will try it, it should blend better than xfce with arora, for a terminal emultor urxvt should work nice

wrc1944 · 2009-04-05 15:50:32

markc wrote:

I just now got, after a reboot on a amd 5200+ with 2gb ram, konqueror 118, arora 1240 and FF 3.0.8 got 140.

Hmmm. I'm wondering why my FF and konqueror scores are similar, but my Arora score is drastically less. I'm running an AMD X2 5050e, which has virtually the same cpu specs as the amd 5200+, with 8GB ram.

Do these scores have anything to do with your ISP internet bandwidth (I only have the "budget value" cable service package of only 200kb/sec up/down), or are the scores totally independent of whatever internet connection you have?

superstoned · 2009-04-05 17:28:49

I doubt bandwith plays any role. Anyway, Arora gets between 600 and 800, firefox around 100 and konqi 85... Points for Arora.

wrc1944 · 2009-04-07 00:13:19

Hmm. Seem to have a taglib version problem:

bash-3.2# pacman -Sf kde-svn-all
kde-svn-all package not found, searching for group...
:: group kde-svn-all (including ignored packages):
    extragear-base  extragear-graphics  extragear-multimedia  extragear-network  extragear-pim
    kdeaccessibility  kdeadmin  kdeartwork  kdebase  kdebindings  kdeedu  kdegames  kdegraphics
    kdelibs  kdemultimedia  kdenetwork  kdepim  kdepimlibs  kdeplasma-addons  kdereview  kdesdk
    kdesupport  kdetoys  kdeutils  kdevelop  kdevplatform  kdewebdev  koffice
    playground-base-plasma  playground-libs  qt-copy
:: Install whole content? [Y/n] Y
:: group kde-svn-all (including ignored packages):
    kdesvn  kgrubeditor  kvirc  lensfun  libmsn  libmtp
:: Install whole content? [Y/n] Y
warning: kdebindings-4.3.0-2009012017 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: kdereview-4.3.0-2009012017 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: qt-copy-4.5.0-2009040405 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: kdesvn-1.2.2+-2009031315 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: kgrubeditor-1.0-2009031315 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: kvirc-4.0-2009031315 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: lensfun-0.2.4-2009031315 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: libmsn-4.0-2009031315 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: libmtp-0.3.0-2009033110 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: gstreamer0.10-good-plugins: requires taglib>=1.5
bash-3.2#

Then I get:

 [wrc@myhost ~]$ pacman -Qs taglib
local/gstreamer0.10-good-plugins 0.10.14-1 [1.21 MB] (gstreamer0.10-plugins)
    GStreamer Multimedia Framework Good Plugins (gst-plugins-good)
local/kdesupport 4.3.0-2009040318 [50.66 MB] (kde-svn-all kde-svn)
    KDE 4 Support (automoc4 qimageblitz soprano strigi taglib decibel)
[wrc@myhost ~]$ su
Password:
bash-3.2# pacman -S kdesupport
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: gstreamer0.10-good-plugins: requires taglib>=1.5
bash-3.2#

EvilSide · 2009-04-07 07:54:18

On fresh install of archlinux i686:

bash-3.2# pacman -Sf kde-svn
kde-svn package not found, searching for group...
:: group kde-svn (including ignored packages):
    extragear-multimedia  kdeadmin  kdebase  kdegraphics  kdelibs  kdemultimedia  kdenetwork  kdepim  kdepimlibs  kdesdk  kdesupport  kdeutils  qt-copy  
:: Install whole content? [Y/n] y
:: group kde-svn (including ignored packages):
    virtuoso-opensource  
:: Install whole content? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
warning: provider package was selected (iproute2 provides iproute)
warning: provider package was selected (freeglut provides glut)
looking for inter-conflicts...
error: unresolvable package conflicts detected
error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)
:: iodbc: conflicts with unixodbc

EDIT: Ok, fixed with adding DEV repo

Last edited by EvilSide (2009-04-07 08:20:52)

wrc1944 · 2009-04-07 14:53:02

Still have a taglib problem. Surely I wouldn't wisht to remove all these kdebase packages? Get a similar dep problem if I try to remove gstreamer0.10-good-plugins- pacman wants to remove some gnome packages which a gnome user would need.

I'm wondering why the taglib in kdesupport now isn't adequate?

bash-3.2# pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 kde-svn is up to date
 kde-extra is up to date
 testing                   29.8K  167.9K/s 00:00:00 [#############################################] 100%
 core                      32.8K  175.8K/s 00:00:00 [#############################################] 100%
 extra                    379.3K  150.1K/s 00:00:03 [#############################################] 100%
 community                364.3K  155.1K/s 00:00:02 [#############################################] 100%
:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: exiv2: local (0.18.1-1) is newer than kde-extra (0.18-2009031315)
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: gstreamer0.10-good-plugins: requires taglib>=1.5

bash-3.2# pacman -S taglib
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: taglib conflicts with kdesupport. Remove kdesupport? [Y/n] Y
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: kdebase: requires kdesupport
:: kdebase: requires qimageblitz
:: kdelibs: requires kdesupport
:: kdenetwork: requires decibel
:: kdesvn: requires automoc4
:: koffice: requires kdesupport
bash-3.2#

EDIT: OK- went ahead and did pacman -Rd on gstreamer0.10-good-plugins

 bash-3.2# pacman -R gstreamer0.10-good-plugins
checking dependencies...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: cheese: requires gstreamer0.10-good-plugins>=0.10.14
:: gnome-media: requires gstreamer0.10-good-plugins
:: sound-juicer: requires gstreamer0.10-good-plugins
:: totem: requires gstreamer0.10-good-plugins
bash-3.2# pacman -Rd gstreamer0.10-good-plugins
(1/1) removing gstreamer0.10-good-plugins           [#############################################] 100%

and am able to now do pacman -Sf kde-svn-all, now in progress. .

EDIT: All packages installed successfully.

Last edited by wrc1944 (2009-04-07 15:40:09)

Maki · 2009-04-07 15:23:23

KDE 4.3 svn seems nice, thanks a lot for the packaging

markc · 2009-04-07 15:51:06

@wrc1944: I think this is because kdesupport provides "taglib" and not "taglib>=1.5" (pacman -Si kdesupport). This is probably due to my misunderstanding on exactly how provides=() works so I experiment a bit and don't always get it right. Suggestions always welcome.

@Maki: whew, glad to hear it's working for someone :-)

I tried messing around with extragear-multimedia again (for amarok) but I can't get qtscriptgenerator to build. I got so frustrated I didn't even do a build last night.

karoshi · 2009-04-07 22:50:21

markc wrote:

I tried messing around with extragear-multimedia again (for amarok) but I can't get qtscriptgenerator to build. I got so frustrated I didn't even do a build last night.

Hi, I built qtscriptgenerator and amarok2-svn successfully today with Packagebuilds from here: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/amarok/, using mysql from [testing] and your qt-copy. You will need apr-util.

Just for fun, i uploaded the packages to rapidshare: http://rapidshare.com/files/218678129/amarok.tar.gz
Archive contains: amarok2-svn-950568-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz, libmtp-0.3.6-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz, qtscriptgenerator-0.1.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz, taglib-extras-0.1.942788-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz.

markc · 2009-04-08 02:53:40

@karoshi: that's encouraging. My qtscriptgenerator is failing on trying to build the phonon parts and I've pretty well followed tpowas build. Would you be interested in maintaining those 32bit packages using the same system as me?

Cypher · 2009-04-08 03:21:14

installed kde-svn under VirtualBox, but i dont have icons, no plasmoid-icons, no systemsettings-icons, no menu-icons, have this installed:

kdebase
kdehraphics
kdelibs
kdepimlibs
kdesupport

what forget to install?

superstoned · 2009-04-08 04:45:53

Cypher wrote:

installed kde-svn under VirtualBox, but i dont have icons, no plasmoid-icons, no systemsettings-icons, no menu-icons, have this installed:
kdebase
kdehraphics
kdelibs
kdepimlibs
kdesupport
what forget to install?

I had this problem 2 days ago, an update fixed it - I guess you should try to update?

markc · 2009-04-08 06:07:28

@Cypher: you could also try installing the "kde-svn" group.

Last of the Wolves · 2009-04-08 09:12:50

@markc: For Phonon there is a patch in my svn-repo. For me that fixed the issue. But I can only state things for x86_64.

Greetings
Stephan

cumulus007 · 2009-04-09 15:45:14

Hi,

I'm having troubles with oxygen.so. When launching any KDE application, I get a symbol error.

Last edited by cumulus007 (2009-04-09 15:45:24)

markc · 2009-04-09 16:26:24

@Last of the Wolves: hmm, have you got the exact patch file name?

@cumulus007: there should be a new build up in a couple of hours from now, let us know if you still have this problem.

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