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#1 2009-04-02 23:46:11
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tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
I feel like this is a new thing, but I looked as lsmod and found many hid* modules that I don't need. I haven't noticed them there before so I'm trying to figure out what is going on. Or perhaps how to avoid loading extra modules?
lsmod output:
Module Size Used by
xt_tcpudp 3408 4
ipt_REJECT 3472 3
nf_conntrack_ipv4 15464 2
nf_defrag_ipv4 2064 1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
xt_state 2288 2
nf_conntrack 68480 2 nf_conntrack_ipv4,xt_state
iptable_filter 3024 1
ip_tables 18688 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 20408 4 xt_tcpudp,ipt_REJECT,xt_state,ip_tables
fuse 64080 2
hid_pl 3824 0
hid_cypress 3120 0
hid_zpff 3536 0
hid_gyration 3376 0
hid_sony 3408 0
hid_ntrig 2256 0
hid_samsung 2800 0
hid_microsoft 4372 0
hid_tmff 4528 0
hid_monterey 2736 0
hid_ezkey 2416 0
hid_apple 7600 0
hid_a4tech 3344 0
hid_logitech 11152 0
ff_memless 5784 4 hid_pl,hid_zpff,hid_tmff,hid_logitech
hid_cherry 2640 0
hid_sunplus 2608 0
hid_petalynx 3344 0
hid_belkin 2832 0
hid_chicony 2896 0
usbhid 40288 4 hid_pl,hid_zpff,hid_tmff,hid_logitech
hid 49504 20 hid_pl,hid_cypress,hid_zpff,hid_gyration,hid_sony,hid_ntrig,hid_samsung,hid_microsoft,hid_tmff,hid_monterey,hid_ezkey,hid_apple,hid_a4tech,hid_logitech,hid_cherry,hid_sunplus,hid_petalynx,hid_belkin,hid_chicony,usbhid
amd74xx 7064 0
fan 5240 0
ide_pci_generic 4660 0
ide_core 111236 2 amd74xx,ide_pci_generic
cpufreq_powersave 1712 0
powernow_k8 14516 0
pata_amd 14260 0
freq_table 4144 1 powernow_k8
usb_storage 111392 0
cpufreq_userspace 3732 0
cpufreq_conservative 7736 2
snd_hda_codec_nvhdmi 3504 1
snd_hda_codec_conexant 25232 1
ohci_hcd 25612 0
ata_generic 5908 0
snd_hda_intel 29064 2
snd_hda_codec 61872 3 snd_hda_codec_nvhdmi,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_intel
arc4 1968 2
ecb 3088 2
snd_hwdep 8536 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm_oss 43392 0
snd_pcm 81016 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 22752 1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 9792 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss 17200 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd 65480 12 snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore 7584 1 snd
ath5k 116852 0
mac80211 177032 1 ath5k
led_class 4344 1 ath5k
sg 29632 0
ehci_hcd 39260 0
serio_raw 6132 0
cfg80211 42144 2 ath5k,mac80211
shpchp 36204 0
pci_hotplug 30880 1 shpchp
wmi 7424 0
pata_acpi 5168 0
sr_mod 16804 0
cdrom 37928 1 sr_mod
battery 12504 0
video 20196 5
output 3152 1 video
button 7312 0
thermal 18928 0
processor 44712 2 powernow_k8,thermal
ac 4984 0
forcedeth 59808 0
usbcore 161232 6 hid_sony,usbhid,usb_storage,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd
evdev 11616 15
psmouse 45900 0
nvidia 8116024 48
i2c_core 24096 1 nvidia
rtc_cmos 11992 0
rtc_core 20068 1 rtc_cmos
rtc_lib 2864 1 rtc_coreI can post other info if needed.
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#2 2009-04-03 00:04:39
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Re: tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
if you are sure you dont need them, you can simply blacklist them in the MODULES array in rc.conf
There's no such thing as a stupid question, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots !
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#3 2009-04-03 00:14:35
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Re: tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
any idea why it would suddenly start loading all these extra modules?
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#4 2009-04-03 00:18:45
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Re: tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
I don't know when you last updated, but the latest hal/xorg doesn't require explicitly loading modules. They are detected and loaded automatically. This could mean that some that you don't need also get loaded.
There's no such thing as a stupid question, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots !
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#5 2009-04-03 12:06:27
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Re: tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
heh, funny that all those modules have "required by" counts of 0. so they must be loaded explicitly somewhere.
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#6 2009-04-03 16:30:34
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Re: tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
heh, funny that all those modules have "required by" counts of 0. so they must be loaded explicitly somewhere.
my thought exactly! perhaps it's in my xorg.conf?
#Section "ServerFlags"
#Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
#EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "SynapticsTouchpad" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
#ModulePath "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection
Section "Module"
#Load "xtrap"
Load "glx"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
#Load "freetype"
Load "synaptics"
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
#Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
#Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "true" # enable horizontal scroll zone
#Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "true" # vertical scroll anywhere with two fingers
# Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "true" # horizontal scroll anywhere with two fingers
Identifier "SynapticsTouchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "AlwaysCore" "true" # send events to CorePointer
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "SHMConfig" "true" # configurable at runtime? security risk
Option "LeftEdge" "1700" # x coord left
Option "RightEdge" "5300" # x coord right
Option "TopEdge" "1700" # y coord top
Option "BottomEdge" "4200" # y coord bottom
Option "FingerLow" "25" # pressure below this level triggers release
Option "FingerHigh" "30" # pressure above this level triggers touch
Option "MaxTapTime" "180" # max time in ms for detecting tap
Option "VertEdgeScroll" "true" # enable vertical scroll zone
Option "CornerCoasting" "true" # enable continuous scroll with finger in corner
Option "CoastingSpeed" "0.30" # corner coasting speed
Option "VertScrollDelta" "100" # edge-to-edge scroll distance of the vertical scroll
Option "HorizScrollDelta" "100" # edge-to-edge scroll distance of the horizontal scroll
Option "MinSpeed" "0.25" # speed factor for low pointer movement
Option "MaxSpeed" "0.60" # maximum speed factor for fast pointer movement
Option "AccelFactor" "0.0030" # acceleration factor for normal pointer movements
Option "TapButton1" "1"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "SAMSUNG"
HorizSync 30.0 - 61.0
VertRefresh 60.0 - 75.0
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor1"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "SAMSUNG"
HorizSync 30.0 - 61.0
VertRefresh 60.0 - 75.0
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
Option "NvAGP" "1"
BoardName "GeForce 8200M G"
Option "NoLogo" "True"
EndSection
#Section "Device"
#Identifier "Card1"
#Driver "nvidia"
#VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
#Option "NvAGP" "1"
#BoardName "GeForce 8200M G"
#Option "NoLogo" "True"
#BusID "PCI:2:0:0"
#Screen 1
#EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "TwinView" "0"
Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "DFP-0"
Option "metamodes" "CRT: nvidia-auto-select +1280+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor1"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "TwinView" "0"
Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
Option "metamodes" "CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
#Section "Screen"
#Identifier "Screen1"
#Device "Card1"
#Monitor "Monitor1"
#DefaultDepth 24
#Option "TwinView" "0"
#Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
#Option "metamodes" "CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
#SubSection "Display"
#Depth 24
#EndSubSection
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#7 2009-04-03 18:21:54
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Re: tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
this is new stuff in the kernel (HID -> human interface devices), simply get rid of these in the kernel config
HID Devices ->
---------------------->Special HID Drivers
you can kill all of the special (check if there is something you may need though), however you need to leave stuff in the main branch of HID (you can customize it if you know what you do)
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#8 2009-04-03 20:50:37
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Re: tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
this is new stuff in the kernel
assuming we are talking about the *29 kernel, then that makes sense. thanks!
is it a problem with my initscripts? should i simply expect extra modules to be loaded?
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#9 2009-04-04 00:40:32
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Re: tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
yes, this is 2.6.29
I believe that extra HID drivers appeared somewhere in 2.6.28.x (or earlier). Arch kernel has these enabled.
No this has nothing to do with initscripts. You can either blacklist these or remove from kernel. I removed all special HID drivers from custom kernel as I don't have any of listed devices.
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#10 2009-04-04 09:17:21
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Re: tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
But the question is : _why_ are they loaded.
No need to customize/recompile kernel. the hid things are built as modules for a reason. they just shouldn't get loaded.
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#11 2009-04-04 14:46:59
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Re: tons of extra modules being loaded recently Xorg? hid modules
But the question is : _why_ are they loaded.
No need to customize/recompile kernel. the hid things are built as modules for a reason. they just shouldn't get loaded.
Default Arch kernel loads a lot of useless stuff from specific user having whatever hardware point of view. This may seem to be excessive for some but it assures universality of Arch kernel. HID devices are loaded as are modules for USB, Firewire, SD, MMC and so on. You do not pay attention to these because either you got used to them or you are using these (and if you don't need them then you blacklist devices, this also indicates that by default these are loaded).
If module is not loaded when system starts device will not be recognized.
Kill all USB related stuff and then insert USB pen. Nothing will happen. You would have to load modules first, to make kernel recognize USB device. Same idea is related to any other device.
Because I build custom kernel, so I am simply removing these from kernel config, but you can blacklist these.
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