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#101 2009-04-04 20:16:45

Venator85
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Using nvidia beta 185.13, upgraded xorg from testing and fixed! cool

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#102 2009-04-04 20:44:10

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Same here -- one of 4 cores at 100%. I have nVidia card. Will try xorg from testing and report back....


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#103 2009-04-04 20:59:45

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Yup -- xorg 1.6.0 from testing fixed the problem.


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#104 2009-04-04 21:08:20

yom
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

I can see everyone who's having the 100% Xorg process is updating Xorg from testing.
Since I can't find the way to update xorg from testing, can someone explain how to do this please ? hmm

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#105 2009-04-04 21:19:25

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

yom wrote:

I can see everyone who's having the 100% Xorg process is updating Xorg from testing.
Since I can't find the way to update xorg from testing, can someone explain how to do this please ? hmm

Enable the testing repo in /etc/pacman.conf:

[testing]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

Then:

pacman -Sy && pacman -Su xorg-server

I think. smile

Remove or comment out the testing repo after updating xorg unless you want to upgrade your whole system to testing, don't forget to pacman -Sy after.

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#106 2009-04-04 21:28:01

Alxe
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Fackamato wrote:
pacman -Sy && pacman -Su xorg-server

Or just.

# pacman -Sy xorg-server

Arch64

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#107 2009-04-04 21:33:25

yom
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

thanks smile

it worked, and the 100% cpu usage is solved.

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#108 2009-04-04 21:42:22

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

gnome & gnome-extra works fine!!!

nautilus performance and speed is amazing!!


Excuse my poor english

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#109 2009-04-04 22:21:17

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

I upgraded to the xorg in testing and I'm still having 100% CPU.  Also, when I start gnome, I get continuous "Starting File Manager" taskbar entries.

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#110 2009-04-04 22:22:12

Fackamato
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

CursedMonkey wrote:

I upgraded to the xorg in testing and I'm still having 100% CPU.  Also, when I start gnome, I get continuous "Starting File Manager" taskbar entries.

Add a new user to the system, log in as that user after a reboot. Still see 100% cpu usage?

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#111 2009-04-04 22:39:10

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Well, I have a big problem. My Gnome 2.24 was working fine, then today I upgraded it with a pacman -Syu and the Desktop Environment just stopped working correctly, Metacity doens't work (I don't see any window borders), wallpapers and desktop icons disapeared (Nautilus broken?) and keyboard layout completely changed. Conclusion, now I can't use the computer. :x

I tried to remove the gnome config folders too: .config, .gconf, .gconf.d, .gnome2 and .gnome2_private. Nothing happened, continued the same.

Any suggestions?

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#112 2009-04-04 23:46:48

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

blacklake wrote:

Well, I have a big problem. My Gnome 2.24 was working fine, then today I upgraded it with a pacman -Syu and the Desktop Environment just stopped working correctly, Metacity doens't work (I don't see any window borders), wallpapers and desktop icons disapeared (Nautilus broken?) and keyboard layout completely changed. Conclusion, now I can't use the computer. :x

I tried to remove the gnome config folders too: .config, .gconf, .gconf.d, .gnome2 and .gnome2_private. Nothing happened, continued the same.

Any suggestions?

The system totally broke for me after enabling Testing repo... I was also having 100% load CPU after the gnome upgrade.

- Upgraded xorg-server from Testing repo = mouse + keyboard freeze.
- Upgraded nvidia driver from Testing repo as well, together with kernel firmware and kernel = same freezes.
- Tried to downgrade the Testing packages with partial failure. Xorg-Server cannot be downgraded with -U argument. Kernel can be downgraded though.
So now I'm stuck with no working X and will not upgrade Arch on my laptop. :-O
-

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#113 2009-04-04 23:48:14

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

I can confirm that updating to the testing version of Xorg does not fix the problem. Or rather, according to pacman my version of Xorg is up to date despite having the testing repo enabled. The version that i have installed in my system is version 1.5.3-4.

Other than the CPU issue, I've run into a couple of other glitches so far. 1)  Starting gnome-system-monitor logs me out of the system, thankfully htop still works. 2) Root Terminal refuses to start up when I try and launch it from the panel. I see the message "starting root terminal" in the taskbar, but then the terminal doesn't come up.

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#114 2009-04-04 23:50:15

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

This 100% CPU bug is a bug in xorg-server, which has been fixed in the server-1.6 branch, and thus is included in xorg-server-1.6.0. About the mouse&keyboard freeze: xorg-server 1.6 has input hotplugging enabled and will only configure devices that it receives from hal. If you don't have hal running, xorg-server will just wait until you do have it running. The 1.5.x version reverted to the old configuration method if it couldn't connect to hal.

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#115 2009-04-04 23:56:43

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

blacklake wrote:

Well, I have a big problem. My Gnome 2.24 was working fine, then today I upgraded it with a pacman -Syu and the Desktop Environment just stopped working correctly, Metacity doens't work (I don't see any window borders), wallpapers and desktop icons disapeared (Nautilus broken?) and keyboard layout completely changed. Conclusion, now I can't use the computer. :x

I tried to remove the gnome config folders too: .config, .gconf, .gconf.d, .gnome2 and .gnome2_private. Nothing happened, continued the same.

Any suggestions?

It was a huge upgrade . Check your mirror If It's synced and 'pacman -Syyu' again .


English is not my native language .

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#116 2009-04-05 00:08:11

new2arch
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

JGC wrote:

This 100% CPU bug is a bug in xorg-server, which has been fixed in the server-1.6 branch, and thus is included in xorg-server-1.6.0. About the mouse&keyboard freeze: xorg-server 1.6 has input hotplugging enabled and will only configure devices that it receives from hal. If you don't have hal running, xorg-server will just wait until you do have it running. The 1.5.x version reverted to the old configuration method if it couldn't connect to hal.

I have HAL running but problem remains... I don't know how I can live without xorg.conf. I'm using a non-US keyboard.

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#117 2009-04-05 00:22:12

Slack
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

mplayer doesn't work after gnome's update sad

$ mplayer
mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.65: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

EDIT: an update for mplayer is available that fix the problem smile

Last edited by Slack (2009-04-05 00:31:10)


Excuse my poor english

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#118 2009-04-05 00:22:49

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

For some reason I cannot force pacman to update to the latest version of Xorg-server. I've double checked the repos that I'm using and Xorg-server 1.6 is available  in testing. However when I run Pacman -S xorg-server it still tries to reinstall version 1.5.3-4 no matter how many times I run pacman -Sy beforehand with the testing repo enabled. Also, pacman -U xorg-server fails with an error message of "error: 'xorg-server': cannot open package file". Is there any way to force the update?

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#119 2009-04-05 00:29:54

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Slack wrote:

mplayer doesn't work after gnome's update sad

$ mplayer
mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.65: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Yeah... with the latest snapshot (2009-04-04) of x264 we have libx264.so.67, but the one in [extra] is x264-snapshot-20090108-2245/libx264.so.65 , so it should work, no?

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#120 2009-04-05 00:32:43

Slack
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Fackamato wrote:
Slack wrote:

mplayer doesn't work after gnome's update sad

$ mplayer
mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.65: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Yeah... with the latest snapshot (2009-04-04) of x264 we have libx264.so.67, but the one in [extra] is x264-snapshot-20090108-2245/libx264.so.65 , so it should work, no?

an update for mplayer is available that fix the problem smile
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/mplayer/


Excuse my poor english

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#121 2009-04-05 01:59:38

CaptainShanks
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

valunthar wrote:

For some reason I cannot force pacman to update to the latest version of Xorg-server. I've double checked the repos that I'm using and Xorg-server 1.6 is available  in testing. However when I run Pacman -S xorg-server it still tries to reinstall version 1.5.3-4 no matter how many times I run pacman -Sy beforehand with the testing repo enabled. Also, pacman -U xorg-server fails with an error message of "error: 'xorg-server': cannot open package file". Is there any way to force the update?

Is the Testing repository listed before the others in /etc/pacman.conf? Pacman will only use the versions of packages it finds in Core, Extra, and Community if not.

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#122 2009-04-05 02:06:36

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

ah there we go, that fixed the issue. The Testing repo was at the bottom of the list before. However I did run into another issue while attempting to upgrade.

error: could not prepare transaction
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
xorg-server: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so exists in filesystem
xorg-server: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

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#123 2009-04-05 02:22:41

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

valunthar wrote:

ah there we go, that fixed the issue. The Testing repo was at the bottom of the list before. However I did run into another issue while attempting to upgrade.

error: could not prepare transaction
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
xorg-server: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so exists in filesystem
xorg-server: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

I got the same issue. Run

pacman -Qo /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
pacman -Qo /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so

just to make sure they aren't owned by any packages. If not (they weren't for me) just remove them and proceed with the upgrade.

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#124 2009-04-05 03:07:54

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

For the error upgrading xorg-server, read:

http://www.archlinux.org/news/436/

Last edited by mrunion (2009-04-05 03:08:05)


Matt

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#125 2009-04-05 04:23:16

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

The xorg-server upgrade only does half the trick. The cpu usage on 2 cores drops to 50~60% each with almost nothing running, which is still not acceptable. And this time I cannot even identify the culprit with process managers!

Edit:
Tried both Nvidia 185.13 and 180.29. No difference.

Last edited by allbluedream (2009-04-05 04:44:49)

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