Gnome 2.26 Discussion

allbluedream · 2009-04-05 04:32:30

Seems that I'll have to leave Arch for a few days and wait for a solution. Just to avoid burning my laptop.

Fackamato · 2009-04-05 04:49:37

allbluedream wrote:

The xorg-server upgrade only does half the trick. The cpu usage on 2 cores drops to 50~60% each with almost nothing running, which is still not acceptable. And this time I cannot even identify the culprit with process managers!
Edit:
Tried both Nvidia 185.13 and 180.29. No difference.

No high cpu usage here with new xorg. Did you try with a new user? (totally clean config)

allbluedream · 2009-04-05 05:32:08

Fackamato wrote:

No high cpu usage here with new xorg. Did you try with a new user? (totally clean config)

Thanks. A new user helps. Any suggestions on how to clean up my old account? Currently I'm preparing to tar everything, clean the home directory, and getting my configs back bit by bit...

Fackamato · 2009-04-05 05:42:33

Try renaming ~/.gnome2 to ~/.gnome2-bak or something. Maybe you need to do the same with .gvfs, and .nautilus as well.

cnshzj007 · 2009-04-05 06:54:22

Fackamato wrote:

Try renaming ~/.gnome2 to ~/.gnome2-bak or something. Maybe you need to do the same with .gvfs, and .nautilus as well.

I have tried your method, but nothing resoloved.

Fackamato · 2009-04-05 06:57:27

cnshzj007 wrote:

Fackamato wrote:
Try renaming ~/.gnome2 to ~/.gnome2-bak or something. Maybe you need to do the same with .gvfs, and .nautilus as well.
I have tried your method, but nothing resoloved.

Then it's something else in your configuration that does it. Did you try to reboot?

abhidg · 2009-04-05 07:07:37

@JGC: I did not notice this with the old GNOME 2.24 and xorg-server 1.5.3-4. The
problem of ~100% CPU usage for Xorg only happened after upgrading to GNOME 2.26.
Do you know anything in GNOME that could be causing the problem? BTW, when I'm
running XMonad, the CPU usage is lower... in GNOME the ondemand governor sets
my CPU freq to max because of the high CPU load.

I'm going to upgrade to the xorg-server in [testing] though that's likely going to break
compiz and related stuff which is working properly with X 1.5.

liticovjesac · 2009-04-05 07:27:29

On my eeepc xorg server is broken after updateing to 1.6. Cant do anything. Am I missing something that should be done after xorg upgrade?
I had to upgrade xf86-input-evdev with xorg server 1.6 /dependencies/

alessandro_ufms · 2009-04-05 08:37:02

Thanks for broken my system. I installed xorg 1.6 and keyboard and mouse dont work anymore. I have hal running in the system.

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Allan · 2009-04-05 08:42:52

alessandro_ufms wrote:

Thanks for broken my system.

Any time... I assume from the lack of question that you are fixing this yourself.

wonder · 2009-04-05 09:05:12

alessandro_ufms wrote:

Thanks for broken my system. I installed xorg 1.6 and keyboard and mouse dont work anymore. I have hal running in the system.

it would be nice if you post xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log

alessandro_ufms · 2009-04-05 09:17:38

I solved the problem with keyboard and mouse editing the xorg.conf file. I has to able input hotplugging (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … otplugging) on xorg commenting the following section:

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection

Now, I have to configure the synaptics touchpad for everything is OK again: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Syn … enabled.29

quickfished · 2009-04-05 09:30:25

abhidg wrote:

@JGC: I did not notice this with the old GNOME 2.24 and xorg-server 1.5.3-4. The
problem of ~100% CPU usage for Xorg only happened after upgrading to GNOME 2.26.
Do you know anything in GNOME that could be causing the problem? BTW, when I'm
running XMonad, the CPU usage is lower... in GNOME the ondemand governor sets
my CPU freq to max because of the high CPU load.
I'm going to upgrade to the xorg-server in [testing] though that's likely going to break
compiz and related stuff which is working properly with X 1.5.

Things went well on my desktop. Updating xorg-server, nvidia, nvidia-utils and the kernel from [testing] didn't seem to break anything.
Another story on my laptop though, with an Intel GPU. I guess I'll have to quit dicking around with Compiz on that machine for a while

Proktor · 2009-04-05 09:43:20

Any chance to fix problem with high CPU usage without upgrade xorg? I stuck with xorg 1.4.2 because my Intel graphics card works much faster on it than on newer versions, so I really don't want to upgrade if I don't have to...

allbluedream · 2009-04-05 10:16:02

I might have found the culprit for the high cpu load even after the xorg upgrade.

Does anyone of you guys experiencing this problem happen to have nautilus show desktop disabled? I reenabled it and the cpu usage is back to normal.

Can anyone verify this? It may safe people a lot of working cleaning up the home diretory.

pid · 2009-04-05 10:51:12

Proktor wrote:

Any chance to fix problem with high CPU usage without upgrade xorg?

Downgrade to gnome-session-2.24.3.

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defcon · 2009-04-05 11:32:01

Somebody knows where is System -> Audio ?
Since Gnome2.26 it is gone...

JGC · 2009-04-05 12:06:43

the audio preferences are integrated in the mixer applet.
As for the 100% CPU usage bug:
This is a bug in Xorg. There's a bug opened in flyspray which contains more information. I think I'll backport the patch to xorg-server 1.5.3 for this issue, as I don't think xorg-server-1.6 is ready for extra yet (there's too many regressions with the intel driver IMHO). For people using the 1.4.2 server, they will have to rebuild the package with the patch applied.

The reason why this didn't happen with older versions of GNOME, is because the new gnome-session uses the XSync extension to calculate idle time. This idle timer is used by gnome-screensaver to find out if you're idle or not. The timer calculation in the XSync extension is broken and triggers a wakeup storm in older versions of X.

Pierre · 2009-04-05 12:40:40

So its not possible to use the old intel driver with the new xorg-server?

gborzi · 2009-04-05 12:48:05

On my system, downgrading gnome-session to 2.24.3 solves the 100% CPU problem but seems to break the screensaver. I suspected a problem with the screensaver after reading JCG post above, so I put the timeout to 1 minute and left my laptop idle for 5 minutes. The screensaver didn't start. I'll try Xorg 1.6 soon, I have an Intel 945GM so that I can help in debugging.

blacklake · 2009-04-05 12:49:11

Nezmer wrote:

blacklake wrote:
Well, I have a big problem. My Gnome 2.24 was working fine, then today I upgraded it with a pacman -Syu and the Desktop Environment just stopped working correctly, Metacity doens't work (I don't see any window borders), wallpapers and desktop icons disapeared (Nautilus broken?) and keyboard layout completely changed. Conclusion, now I can't use the computer. :x
I tried to remove the gnome config folders too: .config, .gconf, .gconf.d, .gnome2 and .gnome2_private. Nothing happened, continued the same.
Any suggestions?
It was a huge upgrade . Check your mirror If It's synced and 'pacman -Syyu' again .

My mirror is synced and my system is fully updated. Gnome is still broken.

Please, any idea? I need my system functional.

PS.: I don't know if this helps, but I have a NVidia 8400M G card.

Last edited by blacklake (2009-04-05 12:49:55)

CursedMonkey · 2009-04-05 12:53:03

allbluedream wrote:

I might have found the culprit for the high cpu load even after the xorg upgrade.
Does anyone of you guys experiencing this problem happen to have nautilus show desktop disabled? I reenabled it and the cpu usage is back to normal.
Can anyone verify this? It may safe people a lot of working cleaning up the home diretory.

Thanks. This fixed it for me. Although I wish there was a way to do it without having to use show desktop.

defcon · 2009-04-05 13:08:24

JGC wrote:

the audio preferences are integrated in the mixer applet.

Thanks

Slack · 2009-04-05 13:38:47

Proktor wrote:

Any chance to fix problem with high CPU usage without upgrade xorg? I stuck with xorg 1.4.2 because my Intel graphics card works much faster on it than on newer versions, so I really don't want to upgrade if I don't have to...

I have xf86-video-lintel 2.6.99 and xorg-server 1.6 both from testing and the video card performance is much better than "downgraded method". Try it.

bwalk · 2009-04-05 14:28:53

Ok, so I upgraded. Of course I had the 100% bug, but xorg-server from testing resolved this. My mouse and keyboard settings (sensitivity and keypress speed) went away and I had to restore them, my mouse feels different, but I am rather sensitive on this.

Other than that, the upgrade seemed painless, a _much_ better upgrade than 2.22 -> 2.24.

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