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#1 2009-04-06 15:47:50

Primoz
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[Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

I just can't get this to work. I read the ntfs-3g wiki entry did what I thought I should do, but still.
I've added My Passport to fstab like this:

/dev/sf1 /media/disk ntfs-3g users,noauto,uid=1000,gid=100,fmask=0113,dmask=0002 0 0

So what exactly am I doing wrong? Should I add ntfs-3g to daemon list? Because it says nothing about it in wiki.
When I try to access My Passport Dolphin say: can't enter /media/disk.

Last edited by Primoz (2009-04-12 00:37:08)


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#2 2009-04-06 16:25:05

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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

Sorry solved with this:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> 
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
   <device>
       <match key="volume.fstype" string="ntfs">
           <match key="@block.storage_device:storage.hotpluggable" bool="true">
               <merge key="volume.fstype" type="string">ntfs-3g</merge>
               <merge key="volume.policy.mount_filesystem" type="string">ntfs-3g</merge>
               <append key="volume.mount.valid_options" type="strlist">locale=</append>
           </match>
       </match>
   </device>
</deviceinfo>

But I'll have to check is this plus the fstab or just this.
Will report fir future reference.


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#3 2009-04-06 16:52:39

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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

remove it in fstab, reboot, and just try to connect it. if you have HAL running *I THINK* it should work..

edit: oops. didn't see your message.

Last edited by test1000 (2009-04-06 16:54:33)


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#4 2009-04-07 11:14:20

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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

Primoz-->

Where did you end up putting the policy you posted.  I created 3 different ones according to the HAL wiki and I did the NTFS linking and I reinstalled ntfs-3g, and only until I did the last thing did it work. 

I know one of the posts said that hal, dbus, and kdm had to be restarted in order to see the policy take effect (it mentions that the running kde will still give error messages on the device even if the policies are correct).

Anyway, it works.  I don't usually mount my internal drive... so I needed this to work with the automounter.  Running Chakra Arch off of a usb drive as a live user.  Saves power... quite a bit at that if my drive is not spinning.

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#5 2009-04-09 19:54:23

Primoz
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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

bwh1969 wrote:

Primoz-->

Where did you end up putting the policy you posted.  I created 3 different ones according to the HAL wiki and I did the NTFS linking and I reinstalled ntfs-3g, and only until I did the last thing did it work. 

I know one of the posts said that hal, dbus, and kdm had to be restarted in order to see the policy take effect (it mentions that the running kde will still give error messages on the device even if the policies are correct).

Anyway, it works.  I don't usually mount my internal drive... so I needed this to work with the automounter.  Running Chakra Arch off of a usb drive as a live user.  Saves power... quite a bit at that if my drive is not spinning.

Sorry that I didn't put that info in my post, as I need it again, somehow I can't mount my NTFS again...

Anyway you write this into:
File: /etc/hal/fdi/policy/20-ntfs-config-write-policy.fdi

From now on I'm keeping this in home too, for any case if something goes wrong...


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#6 2009-04-09 21:18:11

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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

OK I'm starting to loose patience now.
I did one all things that you need to get NTFS working, but now it seems that they don't do any more.
I did almost everything and I still can't mount My Passport correctly.
And it's getting on my nerves. Couldn't  something be done to prevent this from happening.
It could still be done in Arch way, I just want a script, driver kernel hack whatever so that I would be just able to plug in My Passpaort in my USB and use it.
Is that too much to ask?


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#7 2009-04-09 21:54:19

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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

Is it much to ask for you to keep your patience until someone that has the knowledge in this area is able to help you? If you think this is an Arch only issue then just open a bug report.


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#8 2009-04-09 22:05:09

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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

I use My Passport all the time and I dont have any issues. You don't say whether you get any errors or not. What happens when you connect it to your computer? Unless we know some information, its gonna be difficult to help you.


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#9 2009-04-09 22:11:20

Primoz
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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

Yeah sorry I got error: file:///media/disk not found.
EDIT: Just remembered; So that I make this perfectly clear for future troubleshooting:
I got error: file:///media/disk not found if I added My Passport to fstab.
And with out it (fstab, that is) I got can't access /media/disk.

Also I have to excuse myself for being impatient. I fixed the problem with symlink which was only thing that I didn't do.
So I'll know for next time to just try every options, even if they're deemed the last resort.
Again sorry for impatience and all.

just to be clear:

I did the fdi link and sym-link from ntfs driver to ntfs-3g driver.

Last edited by Primoz (2009-04-09 22:47:41)


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#10 2009-04-10 15:06:04

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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

Well, this is funny.I am using such a little passport thing, I just plug it in and it works,no config to do.(using KDE4)

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#11 2009-04-11 18:11:32

Primoz
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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

Well lucky you mianka...

I on the other hand still have problems.
But at last I know now what they are and why they are happening.
It seems that if plug in my USB pendrive after I plugged in My Passport it mounts itself on /media/disk, even though it usually mounted to /media/DISK_IMG.
Is there anyway how to solve this? So that my FAT32 pendrive is mounting as something and my NTFS My Passport mounts as disk?
I'll do a reinstall of Arch to upgrade from i686 to x64, and most of my data is on My Passport so I would really like to use it normally not that everything brokes when I mount my FAT32 pendrive.
I think that problem is that when /media/disk mounts FAT32 it "forgets" ntfs-3g settings.
Maybe I should add them to fstab?
Pendrive as /media/pendrive and
My Passport as /media/disk.
But I think they both use sdf1 as partition marker, but that could be avoided, right?


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#12 2009-04-12 00:35:58

Primoz
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Re: [Solved]Can't read/write on My Passport (NTFS)

OK I really hope that this is last time I put solved on this post.
I found an useful wiki page that did exactly what I wished:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Usi … o_a_device


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