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det

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Registered: 2009-07-11

Posts: 39

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Works fine here:

[det@myhost /]$ pacman -Q nvidia xorg-server
nvidia 185.18.31-1
xorg-server 1.6.3-2

Xorg.conf:

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Evdev Keyboard" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Evdev Mouse" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    ModulePath      "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "glx"
    Load           "record"
#    Load           "dri2"
    Load           "dbe"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
#    Option         "AutoAddDevices" "False"
#    Option         "AllowEmptyInput" "False"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Evdev Keyboard"
    Driver         "evdev"
    Option         "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Evdev Mouse"
    Driver         "evdev"
    Option         "Name" "Logitech USB Gaming Mouse"
    Option         "evBits" "+1-2"
    Option         "keyBits" "~272-287"
    Option         "relBits" "~0-2 ~6 ~8"
    Option         "Pass" "3"
    Option         "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "LG M1994D-PZ"
#    HorizSync       30.0 - 83.0
#    VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
    HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
#    Option         "DPMS"    #Display Power Management Signaling
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce 9800 GT"
    Option         "RenderAccel" "true"
    Option         "TripleBuffer" "True"
    Option         "NoLogo" "true"
    Option         "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
    Option         "AGPFastWrite" "true"
    Option         "EnablePageFlip" "true"
    BusID          "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

#Section "Device"
#     Identifier    "Device0"
#     Driver        "nv"
#EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "metamodes" "1680x1050 +0+0"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option         "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Last edited by det (2009-08-06 13:42:24)

kissandra79

Member

Registered: 2008-08-17

Posts: 23

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Dell XPS M1710 with nVidia G71, GeForce Go 7900 GS

nvidia-185.18.31-1-i686 and xorg-server-1.6.3-2-i686 = Epic Fail...have to login via SSH and "shutdown -h now", could not kill X server

nvidia-185.18.14-1-i686 and xorg-server-1.6.3-2-i686 = Fully functioning.

stock Arch 2.6.30.4-1 kernel, pretty darn current on pacman -Syu

Hello there.

Could you please send me a copy of your xorg.conf file. cos i am using the same dell xps m1710 computer with the same Geforce 7900 GS graphics card.

and i am installing nvidia-185.18.14-1-i686 driver.. so the xorg.conf.. must be almost identical to make it work on my arch box.

yannickp

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Registered: 2009-06-18

Posts: 14

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Could you please send me a copy of your xorg.conf file.

You can also use the command

nvidia-xconfig

to generate a basic Xorg.conf, see http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA

djg1971

Member

Registered: 2008-09-11

Posts: 185

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

...I was trying to ask about the current status of this problem in the package upgrade forum and the thread was redirected here...

So, as of 8-24-09, there is an update to xorg-utils via pacman -Syu .....

Does anyone know if it is safe to move on, or should we continue to use the downgraded xorg-server and nvidia packages?  I don't really want to use beta versions through AUR or anything else, and have already lost too much time due to this gotcha to experiment and lose again.

yannickp

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Registered: 2009-06-18

Posts: 14

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Does anyone know if it is safe to move on, or should we continue to use the downgraded xorg-server and nvidia packages?

I use the updated xorg-server packages, but I continue to use the downgraded nvidia. I'm waiting the next nvidia version before trying to update this package.

idx

Member

Registered: 2009-07-22

Posts: 34

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

I use the updated xorg-server packages, but I continue to use the downgraded nvidia. I'm waiting the next nvidia version before trying to update this package.

Same thing here. Though I would be interested to know what happens if anyone tries.

djg1971

Member

Registered: 2008-09-11

Posts: 185

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

so, has anyone tried upgrading these and found that they can in fact boot up and start X?:

xorg-server-1.6.3-4
nvidia-utils-185.18.36-1 
nvidia-185.18.36-1

xf86-input-evdev-2.2.5-1 (actually not sure this one has anything to do with this problem...)

yannickp

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Registered: 2009-06-18

Posts: 14

Website

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

so, has anyone tried upgrading these and found that they can in fact boot up and start X?:

Yes, it works

lollipopsichord

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Registered: 2009-05-27

Posts: 13

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

I'm having similar issues on my box. I can startx, and it will work for a few minutes, but as soon as something renderable comes up, these weird offcolored sprites start dancing around the screen, until X freezes altogether and I can't even change user levels and have to hard reboot. I'm running openbox as well. I'm not sure which packages are actually causing this, but it happened about 2 weeks ago after my weekly "pacman -Syu".... I've been using vesa in the meantime, but its really bumming me out that I can't play doom3 or system shock 2

$ uname -r
2.6.30-ARCH

$ /usr/sbin/lspci | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7300 GT] (rev a1)

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder63)  Tue Jul 28 16:20:20 PDT 2009

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    ModulePath      "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "xtrap"
    Load           "record"
#    Load  "dri"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "DontZap" "False"
    Option         "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName      "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Card0"
    Driver         "vesa"
    VendorName     "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName      "G70 [GeForce 7300 GT]"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Card0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       4
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       8
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       15
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       16
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

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lollipopsichord

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Registered: 2009-05-27

Posts: 13

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

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dennis123123

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Registered: 2009-07-02

Posts: 72

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Try the nvidia 190.xxxx beta driver - its rumored to fix many peoples problems with the latest Xorg.

lollipopsichord

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Registered: 2009-05-27

Posts: 13

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Try the nvidia 190.xxxx beta driver - its rumored to fix many peoples problems with the latest Xorg.

Nope, still no good. I just installed the nvidia-beta and nvidia-beta-utils from the AUR, which is the nvidia 192.32 beta driver, and still no luck. I'm starting to lose hope Will we all simply have to wait for the next xorg update or something? I've tried using the older xorg abs, and even that didn't solve the problem.

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lollipopsichord

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Registered: 2009-05-27

Posts: 13

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

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jspaces

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From: Canada

Registered: 2009-04-16

Posts: 21

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

The latest nvidia and xorg-server updates works on my Arch x86_64 with the latest kernel 2.6.30.

Video Card

nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] (rev a1)

Software Versions

nvidia 185.18.36-1
nvidia-utils 185.18.36-1
hal 0.5.13-2 
dbus 1.2.16-1
xorg-server 1.6.3.901-1
xf86-input-evdev 2.2.5-1
xf86-input-keyboard 1.3.2-2
xf86-input-mouse 1.4.0-2
bigreqsproto 1.1.0-1
compositeproto 0.4-2
damageproto 1.2.0-1 
dmxproto 2.2.99.1-1 
dri2proto 2.1-1
fixesproto 4.0-3 
fontcacheproto 0.1.2-2 
fontsproto 2.1.0-1
glproto 1.4.10-1
inputproto 1.5.1-2
kbproto 1.0.3-2
printproto 1.0.4-1
randrproto 1.3.0-1 
recordproto 1.13.2-2
renderproto 0.9.3-2
resourceproto 1.1.0-1
scrnsaverproto 1.2.0-1 
videoproto 2.3.0-1
xcb-proto 1.5-1
xcmiscproto 1.2.0-1
xextproto 7.0.5-1
xineramaproto 1.1.99.1-1 
xproto 7.0.15-1
xf86bigfontproto 1.2.0-1
xf86dgaproto 2.0.99.1-1
xf86driproto 2.1.0-1 
xf86miscproto 0.9.2-2 
xf86vidmodeproto 2.2.99.1-1

Check your installed versions with the ones listed above.

I am running hal in /etc/rc.conf.

DAEMONS=(... hal ...)

Hal and xf86-input-evdev allows xorg-server to hot plug the input devices thus I have a minimal nvidia-xconfig generated xorg.conf file. Although I edited the Monitor Section with the specifications of my LCD display.  Also, hal starts dbus automatically.

My /etc/X11/xorg.conf

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "type1"
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Acer"
    ModelName      "X203w"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 83.0
    VertRefresh     55.0 - 75.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Obtain your monitor specifications (I noticed they were missing in your listed xorg.conf) then input into the Monitor Section of the xorg.conf I am using and the hal daemon is running. If you just added it to rc.conf start it with: #/etc/rc.d/hal start
Hope this helps ...

There is another possibility that your video card has bad chip/memory. I have seen video cards display weirdness when they hit the bad chip/memory location(s). The vesa driver does not use all of the features of your card and may appear to display correctly. I normally check by swapping the video into another computer with nvidia drivers loaded and/or running another OS on the same computer with nvidia drivers to see if the still exists. If the problem persists then the hardware is the cause and replacement the only solution. Also you can reinstall the older versions of the listed software from the /var/cache/pacman/pkg location with pacman -U [pkgname], unless you deleted/cleaned the cache.

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lollipopsichord

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Registered: 2009-05-27

Posts: 13

Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

The latest nvidia and xorg-server updates works on my Arch x86_64 with the latest kernel 2.6.30.

Video Card

nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] (rev a1)

Software Versions

nvidia 185.18.36-1
nvidia-utils 185.18.36-1
hal 0.5.13-2 
dbus 1.2.16-1
xorg-server 1.6.3.901-1
xf86-input-evdev 2.2.5-1
xf86-input-keyboard 1.3.2-2
xf86-input-mouse 1.4.0-2
bigreqsproto 1.1.0-1
compositeproto 0.4-2
damageproto 1.2.0-1 
dmxproto 2.2.99.1-1 
dri2proto 2.1-1
fixesproto 4.0-3 
fontcacheproto 0.1.2-2 
fontsproto 2.1.0-1
glproto 1.4.10-1
inputproto 1.5.1-2
kbproto 1.0.3-2
printproto 1.0.4-1
randrproto 1.3.0-1 
recordproto 1.13.2-2
renderproto 0.9.3-2
resourceproto 1.1.0-1
scrnsaverproto 1.2.0-1 
videoproto 2.3.0-1
xcb-proto 1.5-1
xcmiscproto 1.2.0-1
xextproto 7.0.5-1
xineramaproto 1.1.99.1-1 
xproto 7.0.15-1
xf86bigfontproto 1.2.0-1
xf86dgaproto 2.0.99.1-1
xf86driproto 2.1.0-1 
xf86miscproto 0.9.2-2 
xf86vidmodeproto 2.2.99.1-1

Check your installed versions with the ones listed above.

I am running hal in /etc/rc.conf.

DAEMONS=(... hal ...)

Hal and xf86-input-evdev allows xorg-server to hot plug the input devices thus I have a minimal nvidia-xconfig generated xorg.conf file. Although I edited the Monitor Section with the specifications of my LCD display.  Also, hal starts dbus automatically.

My /etc/X11/xorg.conf

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "type1"
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Acer"
    ModelName      "X203w"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 83.0
    VertRefresh     55.0 - 75.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Obtain your monitor specifications (I noticed they were missing in your listed xorg.conf) then input into the Monitor Section of the xorg.conf I am using and the hal daemon is running. If you just added it to rc.conf start it with: #/etc/rc.d/hal start
Hope this helps ...

There is another possibility that your video card has bad chip/memory. I have seen video cards display weirdness when they hit the bad chip/memory location(s). The vesa driver does not use all of the features of your card and may appear to display correctly. I normally check by swapping the video into another computer with nvidia drivers loaded and/or running another OS on the same computer with nvidia drivers to see if the still exists. If the problem persists then the hardware is the cause and replacement the only solution. Also you can reinstall the older versions of the listed software from the /var/cache/pacman/pkg location with pacman -U [pkgname], unless you deleted/cleaned the cache.

Yeah...I tested it with another operating system, and the problem persists. I think its a hardware issue, I checked the card, and there are two blown capaciters and it was really really hot.

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