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:? I finished installing Arch on a IBM t-23. I believe it's a good install, text
     only. Everytime I try to pacman -Sy kde I get this error message:
     " xorg conflicts with xfree86". What does this mean? I don't even know
     if I have either one of these on my laptop.       
    Should I download xfree86 or xorg first? I don't know if it matters witch
    one is downloaded first, kde or the conf. system. Is xfree86 being
    phased out? How do i get kde installed? -- Thanks Larry
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hi!
xfree and xorg are basically the same... they provide your x-server. but the pkgbuild for kde, which you want to install by:
pacman -S kdedepends on xorg. so can either change that in a custom package, or simpler just do:
pacman -R xfree
pacman -S xorg kde::edit:: yes it should be pacman -R xfree86 ::edit::
at least it should work that way...
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you could try 
pacman -R xfree86
but you havent really done anything yet so id
reinstall only a BASE install , this time 
DO NOT select any other packages
once you have that then run 
pacman -Syu
get your base current then 
pacman -Sy xorg kde
once you got that put kdm in dameon section of /etc/rc.conf
reboot
should put you into kde login 
good luck
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rayjgu3 -  I only installed the base packages! When I finished the 
     basic install and was in root I upgraded pacman and then upgraded
     the system. -- pacman -Syu. I don't know where the kde message
     was coming from? So a quick question, I believe xfee86 is being 
     phased out, does it matter which one I use? Where do I go to find out
     if xorg or xfree86 is already on the system? I'll probably try xorg and
      see what happens.  thanks for the reply -- Larry
 thanks for the reply -- Larry
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Where do I go to find out
if xorg or xfree86 is already on the system?
pacman -Q xfree86
If you only installed the base packages as you say then upgraded you should not have xfree86 or xorg on your system.
with a base install you should:
pacman -Sy pacman
pacman -S xorg kde
then you would have to do your configuring of X and KDE. Your error tells me that you have more than a base system installed. It sounds like you installed xfree86. Therefore:
pacman -Rd xfree86
pacman -S xorg kde
I think there is a very old new article in the archive on the webpage that tells you exactly how to replace xfree86 with xorg.
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:?  Hi Sarah31 -- I did as you suggested, pacman -Q, both xfree86 and 
    xorg, nothing there. I then pacman -S xorg kde. I'm stumped as to
    how to run xorg? The Arch Linux Documentation only says to edit
    the .xinitrc file. I did that, but when startx I only get something called
    xterm, not kde. I know how to configure xfree86, and xorg, but how do 
    you get the program running? -- thanks for the reply -- Larry  
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i believe you just create an entry in .xinitrc like so:
exec startkde
make sure all other "exec"s are commented out (place a # in front of them)
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:)Hi Sarah 31 -- thanks for the reply  Everything is as you suggested. 
       Still not working! 
I'm switching over to desktop environments forum. -- Larry
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Forget xfree86, xorg is way better an xserver.
Either run xorgconfig after installing xorg 6.8.1, or more simply:
pacman -Sy hwd
hwd -s
hwd in most cases creates a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf.hwd file, which you can rename to xorg.conf, edit your .xinitrc and then "startx". Type also "hwd -h" to see the other available switches.
I don't like the idea running KDM as a daemon- simpler would be editing your /etc/inittab file and taking care KDM not running as a daemon all the time.
Change the line
id:3:initdefault:
to
id:5:initdefault:
and the last line to the real KDM placement with a -nodaemon switch:
x:5:respawn:/opt/kde/bin/kdm -nodaemon
It works just fine like that here.
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 Thanks everybody, everything is working fine! This message
 Thanks everybody, everything is working fine! This message 
      is being typed on the t-23. I still don't know why I got the 
      original message! After that message I pacman -Q to see if
      there was any x-whatever on the machine, there wasn't.
      All I did was as everybody instructed, and now everything 
      is working fine!!! --   Thanks again -- LARRY
 Thanks again -- LARRY
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