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#1 2009-09-07 15:49:01

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OSS stopped working after today's update

I updated oss today, and now it doesn't seem to work.

Here's what I get when I try to stop it

╔═[11:39]═[inxs @ arch]
╚═══===═══[~]>> stop oss
:: Stopping Open Sound System                                                                                                         [BUSY] 
No mixers in the system

and when i try to start it

╔═[11:42]═[inxs @ arch]
╚═══===═══[~]>> start oss
:: Starting Open Sound System                                                                                                         [BUSY] 
WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/framebuffer_blacklist.pacsave, it will be ignored in a future release.
WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/framebuffer_blacklist.pacsave, it will be ignored in a future release.
WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
FATAL: Module oss_allegro not found.
Loading module oss_allegro failed - ignored
WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/framebuffer_blacklist.pacsave, it will be ignored in a future release.
WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
                                                                                                                                      [DONE]

Can someone help ?

Thanks

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#2 2009-09-07 16:17:50

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

Well, as you probably already know, the *.pacsave files are from the update and are the newer files (which due to the *.pacsave extension are not being used). Are there any of those files in /etc/modprobe.d/ with the *.conf extension? Just wondering, because if there are they should be the same ones you were using before the update, in which case I'm not sure why it won't start. If not, rename the *.pacsave files to *.conf, and see if that helps. Also, it has me to wonder, what files are listed in /usr/lib/oss/etc/installed_drivers  ?  There should be something about "oss_allegro" and maybe "oss_usb" in there, I would think. Not sure if I can help, just throwing stuff out there..

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#3 2009-09-07 19:21:29

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

i do have a file /etc/modprobe.d/sound  -- which lists my sound card.

Just for the heck of it, I copied the same file to /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf -- but that didn't help either.

The pacsave files even if present, are not a hindrance..so I just let them be.


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#4 2009-09-07 19:51:38

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

No that won't do, the sound.conf is for alsa.  Do you have oss in /dev?

ls /dev/oss

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#5 2009-09-08 03:06:47

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

Gen2ly wrote:

No that won't do, the sound.conf is for alsa.  Do you have oss in /dev?

ls /dev/oss

ls /dev/oss doesnt give anything, which means it got boinked. I tried re-installing oss to no avail.


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#6 2009-09-08 03:09:51

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

please provide a list of what you updated

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#7 2009-09-09 17:23:26

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

Allan wrote:

please provide a list of what you updated

There were two updates : oss and hwdetect


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#8 2009-09-09 17:30:30

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

Inxsible wrote:
Allan wrote:

please provide a list of what you updated

There were two updates : oss and hwdetect

Have you tried to delate the dir that show when you installing OSS?


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#9 2009-09-09 18:06:21

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

Inxsible wrote:

FATAL: Module oss_allegro not found.
Loading module oss_allegro failed - ignored

This is the real problem.

paste the output of uname -r and locate oss_allegro.ko  (run updatedb first)


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#10 2009-09-09 23:45:50

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

That module should be in /usr/lib/oss/modules, but the latest OSSv4.2 doesn't seem to have it (maybe dropped, I've seen that some modules were not open sourced but I don't know if it is the case for this one).

I would try removing OSS and installing it again, maybe the problem will automagically solve itself tongue
By the way, which sound card(s) do you have, maybe you actually need that module and you need to check the reason why it is not included anymore.


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#11 2009-09-10 09:20:19

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

Seem like it's ALSA time for you buddy tongue


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#12 2009-09-10 11:53:51

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

"no mixers in the system" for me, too. At some point got it to give me a "no /dev/dsp" message, but that was a one time thing:(

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#13 2009-09-13 16:18:57

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

I still have the older pkg.tar.gzip in my var ..I could always go back to that. I had oss-4.1_1052b and it worked.

But I am trying to get to understand what happened here.

Here's the output that Ellendig requested.

╔═[12:13]═[inxs @ arch]
╚═══===═══[~]>> uname -r
2.6.30-ARCH

╔═[12:14]═[inxs @ arch]
╚═══===═══[~]>> locate oss_allegro.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.29-ARCH/kernel/oss/oss_allegro.ko

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#14 2009-10-06 21:38:36

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

Any updates on this one?

I started using the older version again for a while, but I tried updating to the new one again and I still get the same error. Would I just have to NOT update it ever?


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#15 2009-10-07 14:10:12

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

No ideas here except asking in the 4front forums. Searching there may not yield any recent results because there was a problem with the forum recently, just ask and you shall get an answer smile

Maybe removing the oss package and deleting all configs and reinstalling again may help, although that is quite unlikely.


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#16 2009-10-07 15:33:40

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

You could also try buildilng oss-mercurial (even though it's still listed as oss 4.1 on aur)


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#17 2009-10-07 16:58:44

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

Uninstall it and reinstall it... this has happened to me before... OSS needs to be relinked to the new kernel and for some reason it does not always do that on boot when a new kernel is installed (although sometimes it does). If that doesn't fix it... no clue. sad

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#18 2009-10-08 01:02:33

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

ugkbunb wrote:

Uninstall it and reinstall it... this has happened to me before... OSS needs to be relinked to the new kernel and for some reason it does not always do that on boot when a new kernel is installed (although sometimes it does). If that doesn't fix it... no clue. sad

will try that out. Although I will make sure that I dont lose the version 4.1, because if it doesn't work, I need to get back to it. smile

Should I just use the -f option in pacman. I don't want to have to remove all the applications that use sound before I can un-install oss :-(

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#19 2009-10-08 03:21:59

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

To force remove a package without removing its parents:

pacman -Rcsd your package

Believe this is in the wiki. Yes??

Edit nope... ok, I added it... hmm

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#20 2009-10-08 05:23:30

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

Gen2ly wrote:

To force remove a package without removing its parents:

pacman -Rcsd your package

Believe this is in the wiki. Yes??

Edit nope... ok, I added it... hmm

I dont think i should use the -c flag since i dont want to un-install all the apps that use oss. -c is cascade which means it will remove all packages that depend on the package being uninstalled. I think it should be

 sudo pacman -Rnsd oss

Thanks for the hint.


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#21 2009-10-08 06:17:55

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Re: OSS stopped working after today's update

Update : Uninstalled oss and then installed the 4.2 version. Still get the same error.

Eventually I went back to 4.1 and added oss to ignorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf. I just dont have the time right now to keep mucking with oss just so that it uses a newer version....especially since everything works in 4.1- as far as i know or as far as i am concerned.


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