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#1 2009-12-30 09:04:22

veranyon
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Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

If I don't mistake that age of problem ofadobe and ff performance is around 3 years. Or two years.
On windows OS all're ok, but on the Linux' OS if I install adobe flash and run ff so I'll have problems with work of that and other browsers. browser begins to brake.
I have not very power machine (Arch Linux x86_64 on AMD Phenom core-quad 9550 4 GB of ram (800 mhz)) and if I do it so I'm watching a slideshow.
For example, tab switching takes about a half of minute and cpu load about 50%.

I could neglect to do something and users from way back use that one and haven't any problems. If it's right so correct me.

And a second question. If there're right so what are shadings of problem and what to do.

Thanks and exuse me. I know that my english is the worst smile

Last edited by veranyon (2009-12-30 09:08:30)


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#2 2009-12-30 11:11:10

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

А у меня во флеш проблема с проигрыванием видеороликов из вКонтакта например. половина идет а половина черный экран только со звуком..

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#3 2009-12-30 12:07:01

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

linuxgod wrote:

А у меня во флеш проблема с проигрыванием видеороликов из вКонтакта например. половина идет а половина черный экран только со звуком..

Please try to talk english smile


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#4 2009-12-30 12:17:13

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

And Slashdot says Adobe Flash will be the #1 hacker target of 2010.  I wish I didn't need it.

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#5 2009-12-30 13:36:39

veranyon
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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

Roline wrote:
linuxgod wrote:

А у меня во флеш проблема с проигрыванием видеороликов из вКонтакта например. половина идет а половина черный экран только со звуком..

Please try to talk english smile

He was saying that have a simular problem also. In Russia is inet resource as vkontakte.ru smile as example. Engines of audio players, video ones and some forms are wrote on that adobe flash. If he turns on adobe flash that a half of that one are watched as black screen in the browser and theres's not sound and sometimes all're ok.
I think he uses gnash and not adobe flash.. (maybe)..


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#6 2009-12-30 15:34:02

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

Can you download the Flash video file? Usually it is not very difficult to download a Flash video file. After you download the file, then you can use a fast video player. (for example, "mplayer") Examples:

Do you use the Adobe Flash plugin? Sometimes you can find the video file on your computer. In Firefox "pause" the video. Look on your computer in "/tmp" for a file named "FlashXXXX". (or similar) That is the video file. You can play the file using "mplayer".

Do you use "gnash" or "swfdec"? You can "right click" on the video and download it. It is not very difficult.

Do you use YouTube? Change the URL from "www.youtube.com/watch..." to "www.youtubemp4.com/watch...". The video is easy to download.

Please use Google to learn about downloading Facebook video.

If you have a question about it, please ask!

I hate Flash. tongue Good luck! big_smile

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#7 2009-12-30 16:05:13

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

I am using Adobe Flash plug-in

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#8 2009-12-30 17:15:54

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

2 drcouzelis
Adobe flash isn't only video. There's example: http://imagevenue.com/ or http://rapidshare.com/ resources. Also some resources use adobe flash for filling some web forms.

And films I can download very just. Using adblock plus and when I press block button that I see swf links on some page.

Also my girl like inet games that use flash engines. It's her matter. She uses macbook but sometimes work on my machine. But I understand - If that problem isn't not only my headaches that it's not resolved for all.
On a string I use virtualbox and the end.

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#9 2009-12-30 17:26:09

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

I get so annoyed w/ flash that sometimes I will start the video, pause it, then do in terminal:

mplayer /tmp/Flash*

Might be stupid but works for me.


looks like someone beat me to it ^^^

Last edited by leadghost (2009-12-30 17:28:29)


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#10 2010-01-03 21:01:24

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

2 leadghost
That ones can have an active content and not movies only.
Flash games, forms etc..

Last edited by veranyon (2010-01-03 21:02:41)


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#11 2010-01-03 21:39:43

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

I rarely can read flash with Firefox, but with Chromium, it works flawlessly

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#12 2010-01-04 10:56:20

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

I don't dispute that flash under linux is an exceptional piece of crap, but it plays fine for me in Opera and Firerox. I understand that you have Arch64, are you sure that you use native 64bit flash and plugin, not a 32bit plugin through a wrapper?

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#13 2010-01-04 17:14:34

veranyon
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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

2 MadCat_X
Yes, I'm. There's a native one. Not 32'bit emulation.

yaourt -Ss adobe
extra/flashplugin 10.0.42.34-1 [installed]
     Adobe Flash Player
..
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as and firefox (x86_64)


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#14 2010-01-04 17:49:35

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

never mind

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#15 2010-01-07 19:36:07

veranyon
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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

sad

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#16 2010-01-09 14:15:59

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

Try the latest adobe flash plug-in for linux browsers  <b>tips-linux.net/en/content/flash-player</b>

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#17 2010-02-14 14:04:03

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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

use Chromium its fast as hell, and everything works ok

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#18 2010-02-16 01:06:26

veranyon
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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

danny85 wrote:

Try the latest adobe flash plug-in for linux browsers  <b>tips-linux.net/en/content/flash-player</b>

...
I think that Adobe doesn't want debug them code for quality because Linux OS are used around ~3% of people. I tested the all versions of adobe flash


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#19 2010-02-16 01:09:23

veranyon
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Re: Mozilla Firefox + Adobe Flash = it's ugly as sin

linuxgod wrote:

use Chromium its fast as hell, and everything works ok

adobe flash is isolated app, You can use browser by UFO humanoids, but adobe flash will be load cpu anyway.

Use vmware with win32 ff and adobe (or wine).

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