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#1 2009-12-25 21:07:07

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GRUB is cool

I have a 25 Mhz 486 SL laptop loaded with 4MB RAM that I'm going to use GRUB to dualboot between Windows 3.11 and Windows 95, hah ... thought I'd share smile

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#2 2009-12-25 21:30:37

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Re: GRUB is cool

Wot? No decent OS like damn small linux???


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#3 2009-12-25 21:51:50

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Re: GRUB is cool

GRUB is good, but GRUB2 is better. big_smile

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#4 2009-12-25 21:53:29

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Re: GRUB is cool

Acecero wrote:

GRUB is good, but GRUB2 is better. big_smile

Really? From what I have seen of GRUB2, I still much prefer the simplicity of legacy GRUB..

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#5 2009-12-25 21:55:27

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Acecero wrote:

GRUB is good, but GRUB2 is better. big_smile

when it comes out smile

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#6 2009-12-25 22:06:06

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@Misfit138: It's my preference. I like the new cutting edge features of GRUB2 and the native support for ext4, since I'm using that.

@tomd123: You don't have to wait. You can install it from the repos right now. I had no problems with it.

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#7 2009-12-25 23:09:35

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toad wrote:

Wot? No decent OS like damn small linux???

25 Mhz 486 w/ 4MB RAM
640x480@16 VGA
800MB HDD

DOS is ideal since it's small and stupid tongue  I wouldn't mind playing around with building my own distro for this lappy though smile

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#8 2010-01-02 21:19:48

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You know, on second thought ... I had over I bought a 2.5" IDE to CF adapter and a 2GB 133X CF card ... maybe I'll pump some swapspace into this baby and try to make a lighttpd server out of it or something smile  I could probably hackup the arch init scripts and make my own minimal kernel!

A long time ago, I was really amped about getting this machine cause it was my first laptop, so I babied it, haha.  I bought it when even 486s were phased out in a big way, but I didn't care.  So I soldered together a bunch of Radioshack Ni-MH batteries and mocked up a battery pack; I got about 45 minutes of battery life out of it smile  Later down the road, I ordered some real Ni-MH cells online and carved the chassis quite a bit to make these oversized suckers to fit, and it gets about an honest 7 hours with a hard drive!  With this newfound solid-state flash storage, it might even get another hour or so smile  Slow proc speed but high battery life ... quantity over quality, baby, yeah!

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#9 2010-01-03 18:15:34

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Re: GRUB is cool

synthead wrote:
toad wrote:

Wot? No decent OS like damn small linux???

25 Mhz 486 w/ 4MB RAM
640x480@16 VGA
800MB HDD

DOS is ideal since it's small and stupid tongue  I wouldn't mind playing around with building my own distro for this lappy though smile

If you want a graphical windowing system, then Win3 should be good for you. But otherwise I'd go with Linux, NetBSD or FreeDOS.


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#10 2010-01-03 18:20:39

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Re: GRUB is cool

synthead wrote:

You know, on second thought ... I had over I bought a 2.5" IDE to CF adapter and a 2GB 133X CF card ... maybe I'll pump some swapspace into this baby and try to make a lighttpd server out of it or something smile  I could probably hackup the arch init scripts and make my own minimal kernel!

A long time ago, I was really amped about getting this machine cause it was my first laptop, so I babied it, haha.  I bought it when even 486s were phased out in a big way, but I didn't care.  So I soldered together a bunch of Radioshack Ni-MH batteries and mocked up a battery pack; I got about 45 minutes of battery life out of it smile  Later down the road, I ordered some real Ni-MH cells online and carved the chassis quite a bit to make these oversized suckers to fit, and it gets about an honest 7 hours with a hard drive!  With this newfound solid-state flash storage, it might even get another hour or so smile  Slow proc speed but high battery life ... quantity over quality, baby, yeah!

Be careful about spending money-some of that really old hardware had designed limits as to how much drive space it would recognize etc.

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#11 2010-01-04 22:13:57

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Re: GRUB is cool

GRUB2 is overengineered shit. Stick with normal, usable GRUB1 for as long as you possibly can.

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#12 2010-01-04 22:31:07

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Re: GRUB is cool

fsckd wrote:

If you want a graphical windowing system, then Win3 should be good for you. But otherwise I'd go with Linux, NetBSD or FreeDOS.

Isn't Windows 7 supposed to be lighter on system requirements than it's predecessors? tongue

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#13 2010-01-04 23:00:55

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Original GRUB be perfect if it used kernel device naming.


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#14 2010-01-05 07:57:52

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fukawi2 wrote:
fsckd wrote:

If you want a graphical windowing system, then Win3 should be good for you. But otherwise I'd go with Linux, NetBSD or FreeDOS.

Isn't Windows 7 supposed to be lighter on system requirements than it's predecessors? tongue

It's too light. Imagine the following scenario: a naive young man takes his newfound love, a netbook running Win7, with him to a meadow on a clear sunny day. After hours of frolicking amongst the flowers and expressing his love for his machine, he lies down under the refreshing shade of a lone apple tree. Without even half a thought, the boy's hands leave hold of the netbook, just for a moment. In just that instance, whoosh, the netbook shoots up through the branches and off to the stratosphere. The poor lad jumps out of his reverie just in time to see his beloved netbook disappear into the sky ... forever.

Had he used something more sane in place of Win7 this wouldn't have happened. He'd still have his netbook and that day would have been frightfully pleasant.

Now, granted, the OP is using a laptop and those have a little more weight than netbooks, particularly the older ones. But it will still go up, perhaps more slowly. If he's lucky he cold grab it before it goes out of his reach. It's a risk he wouldn't want to take and it's a hassle to chain that thing down every time he'd want to go out. Netbooks and laptops are best run on heavy weight OSes. Best leave Win7 for your desktop, which has the hardware to handle it.

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#15 2010-01-05 08:52:03

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Epic big_smile

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#16 2010-01-05 17:41:18

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Re: GRUB is cool

So... does installing Win7 on any laptop make it so lightweight, that it has no gravity pull? tongue

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#17 2010-01-05 19:22:13

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Oh no, of course there's gravity! Eventually it'll come crashing down but since Win7 is so much more stable, it may take a while. By the time that happens, the laptop could very well be thousands of kilometers away.


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