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#76 2010-01-07 23:24:02

sand_man
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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

One thing compiz is missing (IMO) is for the scale plugin to "scale on minimize". I did find a patch at one point but I couldn't get it to work.


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#77 2010-01-08 00:48:15

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

Fixed my problems with various taskbars, got rid of them and bound expo to the side button on my mouse and I've set a viewport up as a system tray.


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#78 2010-01-08 09:28:15

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

pogeymanz wrote:

Make your refresh rate a multiple of your monitor's refresh rate (which, monitor? I don't know). My monitor refreshes at 60Hz, so I set it to 120Hz because I have more than enough GPU power and the only GPU-intensive app I have is Compiz anyway.

I did what you suggested pogeymanz but I that didn't improved much the situation. It is possible that this is due to my vga? Maybe is too slow for compiz. hmm

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#79 2010-01-08 10:20:17

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

ArchArael wrote:

I set:

Indirect Rendering on

On my HP6735s (Radeon 3200) I set "indirect" off and that got rid of tearing on full screen video. Previously I switched to openbox before connecting up my TV for video.

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#80 2010-01-08 10:29:59

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

vacant wrote:
ArchArael wrote:

I set:

Indirect Rendering on

On my HP6735s (Radeon 3200) I set "indirect" off and that got rid of tearing on full screen video. Previously I switched to openbox before connecting up my TV for video.

Setting Indirect Rendering on/off doesn't change anything on my machine. hmm

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#81 2010-01-08 18:11:38

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

ArchArael wrote:
vacant wrote:
ArchArael wrote:

I set:

Indirect Rendering on

On my HP6735s (Radeon 3200) I set "indirect" off and that got rid of tearing on full screen video. Previously I switched to openbox before connecting up my TV for video.

Setting Indirect Rendering on/off doesn't change anything on my machine. hmm

Try turning Sync-to-VBlank on. I'm just grasping at straws here. Maybe that GPU's driver isn't super awesome. Have you tried tweaking Xorg.conf with some performance options for intel GPU's?

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#82 2010-01-08 18:13:27

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

toketin wrote:

The other problem is that if i run conky at the startup Compiz doesn't work well , for example it doesn't refresh the desktop, why?

I'll post my .conkyrc here later. Mine works just fine with Compiz.

EDIT: Actually, what are you using to set the wallpaper? I think Conky wont play nice with Compiz's Wallpaper plugin, but it works fine with feh.

Last edited by pogeymanz (2010-01-08 18:14:07)

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#83 2010-01-08 18:37:06

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

Just checked out the compiz. Can't see bmpanel2 eats 100% CPU at all. I didn't look much, since I don't like the compiz (partly because it sucked with NETWM earlier), but works fine on my dual monitor setup and bmpanel2 behaves correctly.


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#84 2010-01-08 19:42:08

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

pogeymanz wrote:

Try turning Sync-to-VBlank on. I'm just grasping at straws here. Maybe that GPU's driver isn't super awesome. Have you tried tweaking Xorg.conf with some performance options for intel GPU's?

Thank you for all your help. That Sync-to-VBlack option didn't change the situation. I'll try to play with xorg.conf. But I found out what is the problem. If I switch off the secondary monitor which resolution is 1920x1200 pixel then Compiz runs very well. So I really suspect this is due to the weakness of my GPU. hmm

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#85 2010-01-10 20:12:21

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

toketin wrote:

The other problem is that if i run conky at the startup Compiz doesn't work well , for example it doesn't refresh the desktop, why?

background yes
use_xft yes
xftfont HandelGotD:size=8
xftalpha 0.1
update_interval 0.5
total_run_times 0
own_window yes
own_window_transparent yes
own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager
double_buffer yes
minimum_size 175 5
maximum_width 175
draw_shades no
draw_outline no
draw_borders no
draw_graph_borders no
default_color white
default_shade_color white
default_outline_color white
alignment top_right
gap_x 10
gap_y 20
no_buffers yes
uppercase no
cpu_avg_samples 2
net_avg_samples 1
override_utf8_locale yes
use_spacer right

Sorry that took so long for me to post. I totally forgot about it.

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#86 2010-03-19 19:46:51

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

What do you guys do to have transparent conky and a wallpaper? I tried feh (feh --bg-scale <wallpaper>) and the Compiz plugin, both work fine until I run conky, then the wallpaper disappears and windows leave traces behind them on the desktop.


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#87 2010-03-19 20:01:07

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

@Netsu
Make sure to disable shadows for conky in Window Decoration plugin! Conky will probably work with most desktop/wallpaper managers (nitrogen, feh, nautilus, pcmanfm), but won't work with transparent background if you use Background plugin for Compiz.

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#88 2010-03-19 20:14:25

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

Ok, tried some more things. When I set conky window type to 'normal' or 'override' then the wallpaper is displayed properly, only with 'desktop' as the window type there are problems.
I have the shadows for conky disabled in compiz settings but it only works when window type is 'normal'.

So here are my options:
1. run conky as 'desktop' and have the wallpaper fscked up.
2. run conky as 'override' and have shadows around it.
3. run conky as 'normal' and have it disappear every time I use 'show desktop'


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#89 2010-03-19 20:19:53

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

Lately, I use Compiz standalone session. I want to have my Conky visible only when I need to. It's not to comfortable to show desktop every time I want to see some additional system info, so I decided to take advantage of quite useful plugin - Widget Layer. I simply placed conky in there, so when I press configured hotkey (F9 by default AFAIR), it's showing up my conky bar. My conky window is configured as normal window + hints, no transparency.

It's just a tip.

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#90 2010-03-19 20:24:16

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

Thanks but I have a widescreen monitor and prefer to keep tint2 and conky on one side so they are never obscured by maximised windows. Having a nice wallpaper-blending conky is crucial to my aesthetics wink


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#91 2010-03-19 20:28:40

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

Oh, vertical layout? I will have to try it some day smile

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#92 2010-03-19 20:55:07

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

Forgot about window type 'dock' and 'panel'. The panel option won't work for me, because some of my conkies (I've got three, you can call it an addiction tongue) should be below maximised windows.
The dock behaves really weird, it seems to always spawn at the top-left corner, the background for the window is from the place in which I want it to spawn and I can move it around with alt+mouse but it doesn't disappear when I use 'show desktop'.

[edit] Problem solved, here's what I did. I set conky window type to 'normal', disabled shadows for window class=conky in the decoration plugin, disabled 'hide windows from outside taskbar' in general options and made window class=conky immovable in window rules plugin.

Last edited by Netsu (2010-03-19 21:38:42)


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#93 2010-03-31 14:49:07

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Re: Compiz has improved as a potential minimalistic WM

Is the screenshot plugin broken, or is it me? It doesn't seem to do anything when I hit the assigned keys.


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