kde-snapshot repo

ProgDan · 2010-01-20 18:26:35

Uppps...I just found out that I made a wrong svn checkout and I unintentionally built KDE 4.4.59 instead of 4.3.95 So those of you who were waiting for stable and shining 4.4 RC2 will have to switch to [kde-unstable]. Also 4.4.60 was just tagged in SVN, but I will not start rebuilding now, I will first sync our PKGBUILDs with those from [kde-unstable] and that will take some time.

KDE 4.5 will be remarkable by one thing: everything will be ported to Akonadi...and obviously they already begun - it took me quite a while to make KMail to connect to my IMAP account...now Akonadi is trying to index all of my 5k emails into MySQL database...already 10 minutes....that's quite overkill...:D I think we will have a lot of fun with KDE 4.5 snapshots....

Joeman1 · 2010-01-20 18:46:08

Yeah, that is kind of redundant actually. Why index an imap account? Isn't that what the imap server is supposed to do? And I never did understand the whole mysql thing either. Thats just bloat-ware and not going to fly on lower end machines. Why didn't they use sqlite or some other db like, well, db? Anyway, it will be interesting to see how things pan out for KDE.

I sure hope they don't expect to run mysql on phones when they get their pim working on android; I read that is were they are heading along with the desktop... Mobile KDE apps... :-P

Joe

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ProgDan · 2010-01-20 18:50:32

SQLite? It would be even slower then now....and it's already SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW now! Btw you can still use PostgreSQL

I'm taking back that thing about fun....it will be suffering

Joeman1 · 2010-01-20 19:14:47

LOL... Too bad you can't turn it off and opt for flat files :-D

ProgDan · 2010-01-20 20:52:56

MAJOR REPO UPDATE!!!!! Read carefully

The repo was updated to 4.4.59 (the packages are misnamed as 4.4.95, but that's not truth, I just noticed it when everything was build and almost everything uploaded). This update will prevent some PIM applications (especially KMail) from working as you were used to. It will be slow, unstable, painful and useless. But we must hope that development will be fast.
If you want to use KDE, please switch to [kde-unstable] repo. If you are insane enough, you can keep using these KDE 4.5 development snapshots.

BACKUP YOUR VALUABLE DATA

The repo was finally moved to the new hosting (thanks to Gwydion!) and was renamed to it's definitive name: kde-snapshots.

Please, update your pacman.conf

[kde-snapshots]
Server = http://arch.morrigan.ch/kde-snapshots/os/{x86_64,i686}

[kde-snapshots-extra]
Server = http://arch.morrigan.ch/kde-snapshots-extra/os/{x86_64,i686}

i686 is being uploaded atm, it will take about two hours.

I will not follow KDE 4.4. I'm working on syncing the packages with [kde-unstable] and improving them a little bit. I will then build 4.5.60 as a testing release and tune the PKGBUILDs to make it work as much as possible. If it will be somewhere between "absolutely useless" and "useless" I will upload it.

PS: yes, I love colors

Joeman1 · 2010-01-20 21:24:31

This update will prevent some PIM applications (especially KMail) from working as you were used to. It will be slow, unstable, painful and useless. But we must hope that development will be fast.

I totally rely on kmail and the pim applications. I think I will wait at least fro beta to come out :-P

Do you know if other Distros who offer the RC updates are suffering from the same issues with this? Its hard to believe that they would release totally useless code so far into a Release Candidate especially for testing? How can you test the apps if they dont work! :-P

Thanks for the hard work though... Totally appreciated!!!

Joe

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ProgDan · 2010-01-20 21:45:15

This is NOT a RC release!!!! This is a KDE 4.5 development snapshot (beyond RC2)! Just the naming of packages is wrong ....if you want RC 2, wait for update in [kde-unstable] repo.

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Joeman1 · 2010-01-20 22:05:56

Cool, thanks man

Joe

mutlu_inek · 2010-01-20 22:22:47

Joeman1 wrote:

Yeah, that is kind of redundant actually. Why index an imap account? Isn't that what the imap server is supposed to do? And I never did understand the whole mysql thing either. Thats just bloat-ware and not going to fly on lower end machines. Why didn't they use sqlite or some other db like, well, db?

Let me paraphrase what you just said:

1.) I don't understand what is does exactly or how it works.
2.) It is redundant.
3.) It is only bloat.
4.) They should use $2 instead of $1.

Hmm...

stricte · 2010-01-20 22:26:37

hi,

i think i have a problem with some dependencies:
- kdesupport-soprano from kde-4.4-unstable depends on redland and iodbc
- redland depends on unixodbc

and of course there is a conflict between iodbc and unixodbc. so is there any workaround?

thanks, stricte

ProgDan · 2010-01-20 22:46:40

A working workaround is this:

pacman -S redland
pacman -Rd unixodbc
pacman -S iodbc

Pacman will complaing about missing dependency unixodbc but it works without it pretty well.

In next release this will be fixed by using libiodbc instead of iodbc.

stricte · 2010-01-20 22:54:58

ProgDan wrote:

A working workaround is this:
pacman -S redland
pacman -Rd unixodbc
pacman -S iodbc
Pacman will complaing about missing dependency unixodbc but it works without it pretty well.
In next release this will be fixed by using libiodbc instead of iodbc.

Ok. thanks. i will be waiting for new release.

By the way great job man

--
str

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Spy · 2010-01-21 09:12:55

@Progdan Can you recompile kde 4.5 against new libs from testing repo (libpng,popler etc.)?

ProgDan · 2010-01-21 16:55:58

Spy: I'd prefer not to use [testing]

ProgDan · 2010-01-22 18:55:41

Updated to 4.4.60

PKGBUILDs were synced with those from [kde-unstable] and some packages were merged to one...I had some issues with building kdebindings so I will upload them later. Happy testing :-)

Spy · 2010-01-24 19:37:13

when will be new snapshot ?

ProgDan · 2010-01-24 19:48:17

I don't know....when it will be released :-) Usually it takes about a week between snapshots.

ProgDan · 2010-01-29 22:30:10

Here it comes....updated to 4.4.61. I'm going on vacation this week so next release will be delayed and this release will have no "techsupport" :-)

For this particular update you must have [testing] repo enabled and libpng-1.4.0 and libjpeg-8-1 installed - they will enter [extra] soon and they are not compatible with the old versions and nothing would work at all. I compiled KDE against these new libraries so KDE will not stop working after these new packages are moved to [extra].

Some of your old programs may require the old libpng and libjpeg - I recommend installing libpng12 and libjpeg7 from AUR or rebuilding these programs against the new libraries.

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Spy · 2010-01-30 13:38:45

When I installed this new snapshot I notice that some files from /usr/share/config/kdm are missing , there is only kdmrc whats make login (via kdm) impossible. When I restored them from kde 4.3.4 all works fine and can log in normally.Anyone have similar issue ?

Last edited by Spy (2010-01-30 19:00:24)

gun26 · 2010-01-30 15:20:48

For me kdm acts completely broken - no themes and it doesn't log me in. I switched to gdm for now (I also use gnome). I haven't noticed any other major breakage in 4.4.61 - yet.

laochailan · 2010-02-08 13:05:56

For some reason 4.4.62 appeared.

I don't know if this is fixed in 4.4.62 but it looks like kde-snapshots' konqueror has no sftp support. I rebuilt [extra]'s konq-plugins package against it, but that didn't solve the problem.

ProgDan · 2010-02-08 21:18:34

Yop, I am back and KDE too :-)

Does any of you use PIM applications? Do they work? Especially IMAP and calendar, I need them and without it KDE is useless for me...for now I'm using 4.3.98 and I don't even have enough time to test the new snapshots at all...I will have to set up a virtualbox image to test it...:/

Please be patient with any problems, errors etc...I will try to fix them ASAP but as I said, I don't use these snapshots now so it's more difficult for me to trace the problems....I hope it will get better soon :-)

flamelab · 2010-02-08 21:19:55

I'd really like to test KDE 4.5, but i'm in the middle of my university exams ProgDan, get ready

ProgDan · 2010-02-08 21:23:52

Flamelab: I'm always ready, just let me know when you are done with your exams ;-)

superstoned · 2010-02-08 22:32:36

guys big news: visit the new http://www.kde.org and rejoice ;-)
(it's still being put online, links might not work all the time, etc etc etc)

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