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#26 2010-01-27 17:22:07

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

toad wrote:

And another one, willextreme - I was installing all the packages you listed and bless pulled in mono and gtk-sharp-2. I consider those (well, mono, really) part of the evil empire, the dark side, from the company which must not be named... You get the gist. For more info you may want to have a look at http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono

Thing is, do you really want the massive mono and gtk-sharp-2 (53+ MB) just for a hex editor? Thought I'd mention it.

EDIT:

Removing bless frees 142.39MB big_smile

godane suggested to replace it with ghex big_smile that'll be in the next release

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#27 2010-01-27 17:24:27

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

BTW if you remove VLC and SMPlayer and use GNOME-MPlayer instead that will save you from having QT.

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#28 2010-01-27 17:32:29

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

noted big_smile

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#29 2010-01-27 17:51:41

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

The new packages list looks like this atm:

#---===Recommended packages by the wiki===---
aufs2
aufs2-util
base
bash
coreutils
cpio
dhcpcd
dnsutils
file
fuse
kernel26
nano
syslinux
#---===To make the live system work properly===---
alsa-utils
alsa-oss
dbus
hal
netcfg
notification-daemon
sudo
volwheel
wicd
wireless_tools
xf86-input-evdev
xf86-input-synaptics
xf86-video-vesa
xorg
#---===OpenBox===---
lxappearance
openbox
obconf
obmenu
#---===System Monitor===---
conky
#---===Taskbar===---
tint2
#---===Wallpaper manager===---
nitrogen
#---===File manager===---
thunar
thunar-volman
thunar-thumbnailers
ffmpegthumbnailer
thunar-archive-plugin
thunar-media-tags-plugin
#---===Internet===---
alpine
deluge
emesene
firefox
frostwire
gftp
gnome-nettool
python-chardet
skype
#---===Graphics===---
gimp
gpicview
scrot
xsane
#---===Office===---
abiword
xcalc
#---===Audio & Video===---
brasero
gnome-mplayer
mplayer
soundconverter
sound-juicer
#---===Tools===---
dmenu
evince
file-roller
gedit
ghex
gmrun
gparted
ntfs-3g
powerpill
p7zip
tilda
xchm
#---===Common codecs/Flash/Java===---
flashplugin
gstreamer0.10-bad
gstreamer0.10-bad-plugins
gstreamer0.10-good
gstreamer0.10-good-plugins
gstreamer0.10-ugly
gstreamer0.10-ugly-plugins
gstreamer0.10-base
gstreamer0.10-base-plugins
gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
jre
ttf-ms-fonts

Last edited by willxtreme (2010-01-27 21:21:20)

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#30 2010-01-27 21:20:39

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

toad wrote:

I've already mentioned batterymon - great little app, but on a more profound note: why jre and not openjdk6? Any good reason? If not, I'd suggest you go for the open alternative smile

/usr/sbin/init-jks-keystore fails to find a supported JRE when only openjdk6 is installed

I get some weird errors with openjdk6 instead of jre when I "make all" so for now it'll remain jre

As for batterymon I simply added in conky a battery monitor smile

Battery:$alignr$battery

Last edited by willxtreme (2010-01-27 21:22:55)

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#31 2010-01-27 21:42:47

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Okay, thanks willxtreme smile


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#32 2010-01-28 00:41:31

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

1.02 is out!
-volwheel added
-battery monitor added (in conky)
-gnome-player/mplayer combo ftw (vlc & smplayer out)
-ghex instead of bless (50MB saved NOW THAT WAS A GOOD SUGGESTION ISO WENT FROM 700->650MB)
-added gnumeric
-more wallpapers tongue
-Firefox will stop asking you to be the default browser

need to work on:
-Installer
-Wiki page
-need to see how to squasfs+lzma for better compression smile
-64 bit version eventually

Suggestions & help are welcome big_smile

I'm having fun with this!

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#33 2010-01-28 05:27:23

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Veljac wrote:

Larchin installer.

grabbed larch7

When I try to run it getting

[live@live bin]$ ./larch
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./larch", line 59, in <module>
    import pexpect
ImportError: No module named pexpect
[live@live bin]$

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#34 2010-01-28 07:21:57

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Back in the olden days when I was remastering mepis and kubuntu I was into space saving and all kinds. I'll see whether I can dig up the old threads and relay any tips...

BTW, I noticed you got the firefox thing sorted. I would have suggested adjusting /etc/skel/.mozilla - how did you do it (seeing there is always more way than one smile )

EDIT:

toad@archtop 820\2 /home/toad > pacman -Ss pexpect
community/python-pexpect 2.3-2
    A pure Python Expect-like module

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#35 2010-01-28 07:35:58

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

All the stuff from mepis is GONE! Shock horror... Trust the net with information and see what it does to you! Anyway, I seeeeem (no, the e didn't get stuck) to remember that there is an awful lot of space "wasted" on documentation, something like 20MBs. Doesn't sound a lot, but anybody who's been trying to get a proper OS on a CD knows it is humongous.

Another approach: list packages according to size and see what you can dispose of. Tedious, but it works.


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#36 2010-01-28 12:08:58

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

toad wrote:

BTW, I noticed you got the firefox thing sorted. I would have suggested adjusting /etc/skel/.mozilla - how did you do it (seeing there is always more way than one smile )

Adjusted /etc/skel/.mozilla big_smile

toad wrote:

toad@archtop 820\2 /home/toad > pacman -Ss pexpect
community/python-pexpect 2.3-2
    A pure Python Expect-like module

python-pexpect lol I was trying pacman -S pexpect yesterday allright thx smile

EDIT:
the next releases
1.03 shoud have these packages added
-obkey
-gtkpacman
-yaourt
-vlc instead of mplayer/gnome-mplayer combo
-xchat
-audacity
-xvidcap
-xpad
-bluefish

1.04
hopefully an INSTALLER!

Last edited by willxtreme (2010-01-28 12:29:16)

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#37 2010-01-28 12:23:57

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

If you are only loading those packages and deps... 700mb for Arch + Openbox does seem a lot....

How up too date is archlivecd stuff?? does larch have any thing to offer?

What happened to Faunos stuff

Need beer!!!!

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#38 2010-01-28 12:28:08

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Checking larch

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#39 2010-01-28 13:28:14

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

I'm afraid larchin for larch-7 is not yet finished. I have rather little time to work on it so it might still take a while. I think the basic structure is usable, but especially the partitioning/mount point selection needs work. If there's anyone who feels they could contribute something - or has better ideas - I'd be glad to hear from you.

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#40 2010-01-28 13:49:02

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

obkey? Cool smile Have you tried it, though? I installed it yesterday and even though I was pre-warned that it was a development version I could not get it work properly.

Also, yaourt is slow and requires a lot of interaction. I prefer packer for AUR stuff. But what should you care wink

gtkpacman - very nice. Most people want a graphic installer smile Also interested in xchat, is it a voice over ip telephone programme? I put skype in my autostart.sh and the whole system came to a virtual standstill...


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#41 2010-01-28 13:56:08

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

larch may be the way to go...reading up seems to cover what you need and then some...

gtkpacman, graphic installer are you insane!!!! lol

main aim is to get a base system up and running...

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#42 2010-01-28 15:48:29

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

gradgrind wrote:

I'm afraid larchin for larch-7 is not yet finished. I have rather little time to work on it so it might still take a while. I think the basic structure is usable, but especially the partitioning/mount point selection needs work. If there's anyone who feels they could contribute something - or has better ideas - I'd be glad to hear from you.

We'll be patient smile meanwhile I can work on making a solid live CD. School takes a lot of my time too lol.

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#43 2010-01-28 15:54:41

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

toad wrote:

obkey? Cool smile Have you tried it, though? I installed it yesterday and even though I was pre-warned that it was a development version I could not get it work properly.

Also, yaourt is slow and requires a lot of interaction. I prefer packer for AUR stuff. But what should you care wink

gtkpacman - very nice. Most people want a graphic installer smile Also interested in xchat, is it a voice over ip telephone programme? I put skype in my autostart.sh and the whole system came to a virtual standstill...

-xchat is an irc client
-packer instead of yaourt I'll have to check it out haven't tried it yet
-obkey I haven't tried it personally yet. I'm used to play with rc.xml directly lol but I'll have to test it

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#44 2010-01-28 16:17:19

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

If it helps, I prefer packer over yaourt too.

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#45 2010-01-28 16:23:10

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

Why not use xterm -e irssi and xterm -e centerim instead? Just to be on the smaller and lighter size if that's what is actually your intention.


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#46 2010-01-28 16:54:11

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

XChat is much more initiutive than irssi and centerim lacks utf8 support.

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#47 2010-01-28 17:46:53

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

why not just load pidgin then your done!

come to think of it surely you can load irc via a browser hmm

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#48 2010-01-28 20:23:26

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

packer rocks (what an upgrade from yaourt!) wish I heard about it earlier
I can't get gtkpacman lol :

[root@sasoria will]# packer -S gtkpacman
/usr/bin/packer: line 73: /root/.makepkg.conf: No such file or directory

Aur Targets    (1): gtkpacman

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
--2010-01-28 15:19:10--  http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtkpacman/gtkpacman.tar.gz
Resolving aur.archlinux.org... 208.92.232.29
Connecting to aur.archlinux.org|208.92.232.29|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 491 [application/x-tgz]
Saving to: "gtkpacman.tar.gz"

100%[====================================================================================>] 491         --.-K/s   in 0s      

2010-01-28 15:19:10 (38.9 MB/s) - "gtkpacman.tar.gz" saved [491/491]

Edit gtkpacman PKGBUILD with $EDITOR? [Y/n] n
==> Making package: gtkpacman 2.3.1-1 i686 (Thu Jan 28 15:19:11 EST 2010)
==> Checking Runtime Dependencies...
==> Checking Buildtime Dependencies...
==> Retrieving Sources...
  -> Downloading gtkpacman-2.3.1.tar.bz2...
--2010-01-28 15:19:12--  http://download.berlios.de/gtkpacman/gtkpacman-2.3.1.tar.bz2
Resolving download.berlios.de... 
195.37.77.141
Connecting to download.berlios.de|195.37.77.141|:80... failed: Connection timed out.
Retrying.

--2010-01-28 15:19:34--  (try: 2)  http://download.berlios.de/gtkpacman/gtkpacman-2.3.1.tar.bz2
Connecting to download.berlios.de|195.37.77.141|:80... failed: Connection timed out.
Retrying.

--2010-01-28 15:19:57--  (try: 3)  http://download.berlios.de/gtkpacman/gtkpacman-2.3.1.tar.bz2
Connecting to download.berlios.de|195.37.77.141|:80... failed: Connection timed out.
Giving up.

==> ERROR: Failure while downloading gtkpacman-2.3.1.tar.bz2
    Aborting...
The build failed.
[root@sasoria will]#

obkey works like charm (I guess this is bye bye good old rc.xml editing w/ gedit lol

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#49 2010-01-28 20:29:20

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^ The download link is broken. Better stick with just pacman big_smile

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#50 2010-01-28 21:00:36

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Re: ArchBang 2.00 RC1

could you post a screenshot of the live-cd in action?

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