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#1 2005-02-25 06:10:00

encelo
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Arch Blender Logo

I made this logo some days before I actually downloaded and installed Arch and I immediately sent it to Judd, but I got no reply. sad
What do you think of it?

arch_toon_thumb.jpg
Internal Blender Renderer (2.36), 1024x768, 16x OSA, some Ambient Occlusion.
All the materials are rendered through toon shaders, the text is shadeless.


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#2 2005-02-25 06:32:33

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

Your logo looks nice. Arch aleady has one discussed and decided quite long time ago. For personal usage for the users, this forum is the right place to present it.

If you have other ideas, browse the forums. Anything new and useful you develop, feel free to post.

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#3 2005-02-25 07:31:48

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

That's a damn fine logo! I think it'll look nice on my new Arch bootsplash when I get around to making it.

Good work.

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#4 2005-02-25 14:16:55

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

Thank you guys, I'm really happy to hear good comments about my logo.
If other ideas come I will be glad to post them here. smile


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#5 2005-02-25 15:29:19

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

It would look a lot better if you didn't save it as a jpeg. Jpegs ain't good for these types of images. Use PNG!

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#6 2005-02-25 20:51:47

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

arooaroo wrote:

It would look a lot better if you didn't save it as a jpeg. Jpegs ain't good for these types of images. Use PNG!

jpegs are fine. You just have to set the "quality" properly. Problems only arise if you want to edit the image and resave (lossy). png files are nice, though they can be a bit larger than similar jpg files.
*shrug*


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#7 2005-02-26 01:22:35

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

I always render to png, but on my site, to keep a decent size, I compress to 90% jpg.


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#8 2005-02-26 02:21:37

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

you could make that soo easily in svg via inkscape...

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#9 2005-02-26 02:56:37

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

It was actually made to do some tests with toon shading on Blender, and to discover its possibility about logo designing. wink

Anyway, I don't think that with inkscape you can remove orthographic projection, go back to perspective and make a little animation, or render the same scene from another angle. smile

I'm actually more into 3d, this was just the first test for 2d graphic.


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#10 2005-02-26 09:51:14

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

cactus wrote:

jpegs are fine. You just have to set the "quality" properly. Problems only arise if you want to edit the image and resave (lossy). png files are nice, though they can be a bit larger than similar jpg files.
*shrug*

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Jpeg struggle with high contrast areas, even when quality setting are high.  I can see typical jpeg artifacts all over that logo.

However, PNGs can compress very well with simple graphics like this. Sure with complex images, such as photos, the size rarely beats jpegs, but here, you only need a few colours and so PNGs will beat jpeg on quality and size in this instance.

Go on encelo, post the png so we can compare smile

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#11 2005-02-26 11:18:40

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sure, on images containing starkly contrasting gradations (like text) png's can really shine. That has traditionally been the domain of the gif format, and png is indeed a replacement for gif (even better support for transparency and alpha too).

Jpeg format really shines in photographic arenas. Where huge sizes are common, and gradual gradations are more prevalent. In such arena's, master formats like tiff (ack) and others are used, and jpeg is a very suitable lossy output.

*shrug*
But it really doesn't matter I suppose. Just as long as people stop using gif..although if I recall that unisys patent might have expired already..*scratches chin*


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#12 2005-02-26 12:47:15

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

encelo wrote:

It was actually made to do some tests with toon shading on Blender, and to discover its possibility about logo designing. wink

Anyway, I don't think that with inkscape you can remove orthographic projection, go back to perspective and make a little animation, or render the same scene from another angle. smile

I'm actually more into 3d, this was just the first test for 2d graphic.

Erm, i didnt say that, i just said you could reproduce that graphic so much more easily in inkscape....

iphitus

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#13 2005-02-26 13:39:31

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

cactus wrote:

But it really doesn't matter I suppose. Just as long as people stop using gif..although if I recall that unisys patent might have expired already..*scratches chin*

Here, here! Perhaps we ought to tell someone that the AL logo in the corner is a gif  wink  Gifs didn't do it for me due to its limited palette support (8bit) whereas PNGs will do nicely at 24bit, thank you very much.

I reckon PNGs would be even more common on the web if MS pulled its finger out and implemented full PNG support (i.e., transparancy) in IE.

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#14 2005-02-27 03:44:26

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

arooaroo wrote:

Go on encelo, post the png so we can compare smile

Here you are. wink

http://autistici.org/encelo/forum/arch_toon.png (215K)


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#15 2005-02-27 13:59:52

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

Now that's not fair - you've changed the source so you get a slightly different image. I notice that the font for the text is different; the grey arch is more translucent, and the colour of the grey shades are less pronounced.

However, the curves generally look really jagged. Is that from the rendering?

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#16 2005-02-27 19:10:17

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

arooaroo wrote:

Now that's not fair - you've changed the source so you get a slightly different image. I notice that the font for the text is different; the grey arch is more translucent, and the colour of the grey shades are less pronounced.

However, the curves generally look really jagged. Is that from the rendering?

Yes, you're right, it's different. Yesterday I did a rendering without checking too much the resulting image, and I didn't notice that many things were different.
The file from which I loaded the scene hasn't all the optimizations for a final wok, and the fonts were not loaded too.

I've uploaded the image again, I think it's the same now..


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#17 2005-02-27 21:26:33

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

Ah, the updated version looks better smile

Still, unfortunately, I can't help feeling that your efforts are largely wasted since AL already has a logo. sad

Still, at least you got some experience with Blender, eh?!

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#18 2005-02-28 01:28:28

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

I know that Arch has already a great SVG official logo.
My intention was never to substitute that awesome work with mine, but just to have this little piece of work added to the logo&wallpapers gallery, in the user contributed section.
If only Judd would answer my mail... big_smile


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#19 2005-02-28 23:10:38

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

really nice logo... would make a great wallpaper... well... not as great as my Lexa Doig wallpaper, but still

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#20 2005-03-01 00:53:14

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

Well, I've just dropped it in as my xfce4 backdrop - thanks encelo.

cactus wrote:

..although if I recall that unisys patent might have expired already..*scratches chin*

Nearly two years ago now, Cactus.

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#21 2005-03-01 01:05:56

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tomk wrote:

Nearly two years ago now, Cactus.

ack. I feel old now.
sad


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#22 2005-03-01 22:29:28

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

tomk wrote:

Well, I've just dropped it in as my xfce4 backdrop - thanks encelo.

Wow, I'm really glad to hear this.
Could you send me your desktop screenshot? big_smile

Tell me if you need it in another resolution or colour combination. wink


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#23 2005-03-04 13:54:20

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Re: Arch Blender Logo

encelo - I'm not forgetting the screenshot - just a bit busy at the mo.

Thanks for asking about res and colours - the res is the most my machine can handle, but could you do a darker background? The logo itself is fine.

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#24 2005-04-11 22:26:27

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#25 2006-09-13 15:48:09

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http://www.sakeco.net/arch_linux_bluefr.svg

Enjoy the french logo of Arch !

arch_linux_bluefr.png


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