The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

agapito · 2010-03-21 02:26:43

Catalyst driver always worked very well on my hd 5770, except lack of composite on 10.2. Catalyst 10.4 beta works PERFECT on my comp. X are STABLE and 0 kernel lock ups. Before i was using an integrated intel gma950 for 3 years and their open source driver was CRAPPY. Always had problems with xserver or kernel lock ups.

I am happy with ATI, can't wait for direct 2d and videos acceleration.

Cory · 2010-03-21 02:57:47

Someone can use xbmc or boxee? since catalyst 9.11 to the actual 10.4 beta i don't get image. If install 9.10 or earlier works ok. so i think it's a driver problem
P.D. with the open source driver woks ok.

Last edited by Cory (2010-03-21 03:00:39)

FallenWizard · 2010-03-21 04:48:06

agapito wrote:

Catalyst driver always worked very well on my hd 5770, except lack of composite on 10.2. Catalyst 10.4 beta works PERFECT on my comp. X are STABLE and 0 kernel lock ups. Before i was using an integrated intel gma950 for 3 years and their open source driver was CRAPPY. Always had problems with xserver or kernel lock ups.
I am happy with ATI, can't wait for direct 2d and videos acceleration.

You will start to hate Catalyst soon. I am sure of it.

Last edited by FallenWizard (2010-03-21 04:48:25)

timong · 2010-03-21 08:48:45

FallenWizard wrote:

You will start to hate Catalyst soon. I am sure of it.

Lol. Are they going to add more features? Omg,the baztardz..

FallenWizard · 2010-03-21 10:18:03

timong wrote:

FallenWizard wrote:
You will start to hate Catalyst soon. I am sure of it.
Lol. Are they going to add more features? Omg,the baztardz..

No but they have horrible support for new xorg and kernel versions.

dcc24 · 2010-03-21 10:20:30

Success with mplayer-vaapi!

Screenshot:

Here are the steps:
- I've modified the PKGBUILD of libva-sds (AUR) to point to the latest version and it built fine. Before that, vainfo gave me an error.
- Installed xvba-video (AUR)
- Installed ffmpeg-svn (with --enable-vdpau)
- Installed mplayer-vaapi

After that, using

mplayer -vo vaapi:gl -va vaapi video.avi

gave me this error:

mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libva-0.31.0.5.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

This was expected since I was using a newer version. I've created symlinks for all 3 libva files:

sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libva-x11-0.31.0.6.so.1 /usr/lib/libva-x11-0.31.0.5.so.1
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libva-glx-0.31.0.6.so.1 /usr/lib/libva-glx-0.31.0.5.so.1
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libva-0.31.0.6.so.1 /usr/lib/libva-0.31.0.5.so.1

After that mplayer works fine! No flickering, no tearing!

$ mplayer -vo vaapi:gl -va vaapi Flashforward.S01E11-E12.HDTV.XviD-2HD.avi 
MPlayer SVN-r30589-4.4.3 (C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team
144 audio & 329 video codecs
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.

Playing Flashforward.S01E11-E12.HDTV.XviD-2HD.avi.
AVI file format detected.
[aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0
[aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1
VIDEO:  [XVID]  624x352  12bpp  23.976 fps  1027.5 kbps (125.4 kbyte/s)
Clip info:
 Software: MEncoder dev-SVN-r26940
[vo_vaapi] Using OpenGL rendering
libva: libva version 0.31.0-sds6
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
libva: va_getDriverName() returns 0
libva: Trying to open /usr/lib/va/drivers/fglrx_drv_video.so
libva: va_openDriver() returns 0
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
[VD_FFMPEG] VA API accelerated codec.
Unsupported PixelFormat 61
[VD_FFMPEG] Trying pixfmt=1.
Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied.
VO: [vaapi] 624x352 => 624x352 MPEG-4 VA API Acceleration 
[vo_vaapi] Using 1:1 VA surface mapping
FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.
Unsupported PixelFormat 61
[VD_FFMPEG] Trying pixfmt=0.
Unsupported PixelFormat 61
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
Try appending the scale filter to your filter list,
e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp.
[VD_FFMPEG] Trying pixfmt=2.
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
Try appending the scale filter to your filter list,
e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp.
[VD_FFMPEG] Trying pixfmt=3.
Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied.
VO: [vaapi] 624x352 => 624x352 Planar YV12 
Selected video codec: [ffodivx] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)
==========================================================================
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==========================================================================
[AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Starting playback...
Movie-Aspect is 1.77:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
VO: [vaapi] 624x352 => 624x352 Planar YV12 
No bind found for key 'MOUSE_BTN0'.-MOUSE_BTN0_DBL                         
A:   6.2 V:   6.2 A-V: -0.000 ct: -0.040 150/150  7%  7%  0.7% 0 0 
Exiting... (Quit)

VLC is problematic however, I just can't get it to work :S

Last edited by dcc24 (2010-03-21 10:43:01)

bautz · 2010-03-21 10:23:19

timong wrote:

I have no real issue with the new driver.
...
Thumbs up for ati

Hi timong,
I have an ATI HD5650 like you, but catalyst-test 10.4 for me is not working.
How did you do?
I opened a discussion here
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=93555

lynix · 2010-03-21 10:23:53

Is there something special I must do to get Compositing in KDE4.4 working?

glxinfo says "direct_rendering yes", glxgears working fine and no errors in the Xorg.log.
~/.xsession-errors is a bit more verbose on the topic:

systemsettings(4299)/kutils (KCModuleProxy) KCModuleProxyPrivate::loadModule: Module not already loaded, loading module  "Arbeitsflächen-Effekte"  from library  "kcm_kwincompositing"  using symbol  "kcm_kwincompositing"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::Extensions::init: Extensions: shape: 0x "11"  composite: 0x "4"  render: 0x "a"  fixes: 0x "40"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::Extensions::init: Extensions: shape: 0x "11"  composite: 0x "4"  render: 0x "a"  fixes: 0x "40"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detect: glx version is  1 . 4
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL vendor is "ATI Technologies Inc."
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL renderer is "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL version is "3.2.9737 Compatibility Profile Context"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: XGL: no
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: Detected driver "fglrx" , version "3.2.9737"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::applyDriverSpecificOptions: fglrx >= 2.1.7412, enabling compositing
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::Extensions::init: Extensions: shape: 0x "11"  composite: 0x "4"  render: 0x "a"  fixes: 0x "40"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::Extensions::init: Extensions: shape: 0x "11"  composite: 0x "4"  render: 0x "a"  fixes: 0x "40"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detect: glx version is  1 . 4
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL vendor is "ATI Technologies Inc."
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL renderer is "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL version is "3.2.9737 Compatibility Profile Context"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: XGL: no
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: Detected driver "fglrx" , version "3.2.9737"
systemsettings(4299)/kwin KWin::CompositingPrefs::applyDriverSpecificOptions: fglrx >= 2.1.7412, enabling compositing
kwin(4207) KWin::Extensions::init: Extensions: shape: 0x "11"  composite: 0x "4"  render: 0x "a"  fixes: 0x "40"
kwin(4207) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detect: glx version is  1 . 4
kwin(4207) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL vendor is "ATI Technologies Inc."
kwin(4207) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL renderer is "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650"
kwin(4207) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL version is "1.4 (3.2.9737 Compatibility Profile Context)"
kwin(4207) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: XGL: no
kwin(4207) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: Detected driver "fglrx" , version "3.2.973"
kwin(4207) KWin::CompositingPrefs::applyDriverSpecificOptions: fglrx >= 2.1.7412, enabling compositing
kwin(4207) KWin::Extensions::init: Extensions: shape: 0x "11"  composite: 0x "4"  render: 0x "a"  fixes: 0x "40"
kwin(4207) KWin::Workspace::setupCompositing: OpenGL compositing
kwin(4207): Compositing self-check failed, disabling compositing. 
kwin(4207): Failed to initialize compositing, compositing disabled

Any ideas? I'm using Vi0L0's package from here

Vi0L0 · 2010-03-21 20:44:48

heh... i have installed kde on my i686 testing system, i though that i will try to trace bug that shall exist on kwin's support.
Instead of it i get working kwin out of the box, even more - with xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix it's the fastest enviroment i have ever seen on my pc (naaah but its really fast!)...

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2010-03-21 21:14:55)

timong · 2010-03-21 21:29:16

Vi0L0 wrote:

heh... i have installed kde on my i686 testing system, i though that i will try to trace bug that shall exist on kwin's support.
Instead of it i get working kwin out of the box, even more - with xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix it's the fastest enviroment i have ever seen on my pc (naaah but its really fast!)...

my thing is, i'm still using xorg git , luckily maximize fix applies on it still. So - now i have the fastest and the latest.. with 2.6.33-ck1 patch - so even the kernel in favor of desktop latency.

Cdh · 2010-03-21 21:42:29

What do you need the patched xorg for?

I remember the laggy maximizing but now it is fast without any patches for me, all from repos.

% pacman -Q xorg-server
xorg-server 1.7.5.902-1

% pacman -Q catalyst-test
catalyst-test 10.4-333

I still miss the fan control option in catalyst. Is it purposely missing or just a bug I have? I remember earlier catalysts where I was able to slow it down.

timong · 2010-03-21 21:48:33

Cdh wrote:

What do you need the patched xorg for?

With compiz it takes ages with any version of xorg without patch - at least here with 10.4 beta + hd 5650 mobility.

Vi0L0 · 2010-03-21 22:47:32

timong wrote:

Vi0L0 wrote:
heh... i have installed kde on my i686 testing system, i though that i will try to trace bug that shall exist on kwin's support.
Instead of it i get working kwin out of the box, even more - with xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix it's the fastest enviroment i have ever seen on my pc (naaah but its really fast!)...
my thing is, i'm still using xorg git , luckily maximize fix applies on it still. So - now i have the fastest and the latest.. with 2.6.33-ck1 patch - so even the kernel in favor of desktop latency.

I have just switched back to oss driver - i was missing for synched videos (and especially no flickering on flash videos - i sometimes like to watch some serials/movies on portals such as surfthechannel)... and...
Rolled back to catalyst again
My pc is much more quieter (so i guess also cooler) with catalyst (my referent hd4850 can be really noise-annoying).
Even with great Perry3D's PM kernel - oss driver isnt as quiet as catalyst.
Catalyst is as fast and stable as oss driver now + got no flickering with vaapi, so this little disadvantage of flickering flash wont be as annoying as my noisy card for me.

@timong: have you checked direct2d with new catalyst 10.4 beta?
I have added:
Direct2DAccel=STRUE
to:
[AMDPCSROOT/SYSTEM/DDX]
section of /etc/ati/amdpcsdb , but after reboot this line was missing, also when i chmod 444 amdpcsdb - the results with gtkperf tests was the same, so i guess direct2d isn't working... (or maybe theres other way to enable it)

timong · 2010-03-21 23:13:55

Vi0L0 wrote:

@timong: have you checked direct2d with new catalyst 10.4 beta?
I have added:
Direct2DAccel=STRUE
to:
[AMDPCSROOT/SYSTEM/DDX]
section of /etc/ati/amdpcsdb , but after reboot this line was missing, also when i chmod 444 amdpcsdb - the results with gtkperf tests was the same, so i guess direct2d isn't working... (or maybe theres other way to enable it)

You did it right. First shut X/gdm/kdm down. Edit it how you described. Quick test: startx with root, check xorg log (for 'hook', you will find hooked to direct 2d accel.)
So it's still present.

(ati settings may trick you, and remove the line, but if you edit it without X running, it should work)

Alpha blending is still the same crap with it (garbled 2d parts), and it's still rather slow. So doesnt worth to check it...

Last edited by timong (2010-03-21 23:18:43)

flamelab · 2010-03-21 23:21:14

I still can't understand why they named this 2D acceleration like the D2D DirectX technology....

keks · 2010-03-21 23:57:40

Still got slow rendering by tag switching :<
Tried both fixed xservers…

Vi0L0 · 2010-03-22 01:20:49

timong wrote:

Vi0L0 wrote:
@timong: have you checked direct2d with new catalyst 10.4 beta?
I have added:
Direct2DAccel=STRUE
to:
[AMDPCSROOT/SYSTEM/DDX]
section of /etc/ati/amdpcsdb , but after reboot this line was missing, also when i chmod 444 amdpcsdb - the results with gtkperf tests was the same, so i guess direct2d isn't working... (or maybe theres other way to enable it)
You did it right. First shut X/gdm/kdm down. Edit it how you described. Quick test: startx with root, check xorg log (for 'hook', you will find hooked to direct 2d accel.)
So it's still present.
(ati settings may trick you, and remove the line, but if you edit it without X running, it should work)
Alpha blending is still the same crap with it (garbled 2d parts), and it's still rather slow. So doesnt worth to check it...

Got it! Yes, spotted one little garbage/artifact. It is also slower, much slower - kwin on (opengl) + gtkperf all tests (total time) :
without d2d: ~8,5s
with d2d: 26s

Vi0L0 · 2010-03-22 01:44:03

flamelab wrote:

I still can't understand why they named this 2D acceleration like the D2D DirectX technology....

Umm... cuz it is DirectX technology
quoting http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … &px=Nzk5MQ:

Direct2D is Microsoft's API for 2D and vector graphics that is used in Windows Vista/7. AMD hasn't communicated much about this new acceleration API, but it appears that much of the 2D acceleration code that they used from their Direct2D support on Windows is now being shared with the Linux driver.

flamelab · 2010-03-22 02:11:03

Vi0L0 wrote:

flamelab wrote:
I still can't understand why they named this 2D acceleration like the D2D DirectX technology....
Umm... cuz it is DirectX technology
quoting http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … &px=Nzk5MQ:
Direct2D is Microsoft's API for 2D and vector graphics that is used in Windows Vista/7. AMD hasn't communicated much about this new acceleration API, but it appears that much of the 2D acceleration code that they used from their Direct2D support on Windows is now being shared with the Linux driver.

I know that it is a DX technology, but I also think that it's a ... stupid way to name the 2D acceleration through DRI on Linux. DirectX is far away from portable.

Vi0L0 · 2010-03-22 14:10:23

with fglrx-2.6.33.patch catalyst_10.4_beta is working well on 2.6.34-rc2 kernel
does it mean that we are now faster than nvidia with kernel support? xD

@flamelab: indeed

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2010-03-22 14:12:15)

cinan · 2010-03-22 16:05:43

Cdh wrote:

I still miss the fan control option in catalyst. Is it purposely missing or just a bug I have? I remember earlier catalysts where I was able to slow it down.

Fan control works for me. I do this

aticonfig --pplib-cmd "set fanspeed 0 3"

dcc24 · 2010-03-22 16:08:57

Is there any way to "see" the current fan speed?

cinan · 2010-03-22 16:10:36

yes, you can

aticonfig --od-gettemperature
or 
LD_PRELOAD=libXinerama.so.1 aticonfig --od-gettemperature

//edit: sorry, i misunderstood your question and I don't know how to delete my post...

Edit2:
Try this

aticonfig --pplib-cmd "get fanspeed 0"

Last edited by cinan (2010-03-22 16:22:32)

Cdh · 2010-03-22 22:21:42

cinan wrote:

Cdh wrote:
I still miss the fan control option in catalyst. Is it purposely missing or just a bug I have? I remember earlier catalysts where I was able to slow it down.
Fan control works for me. I do this
aticonfig --pplib-cmd "set fanspeed 0 3"

I'm confused. I remember a tab in amdcccle with overdrive...

Your fanspeed is "3"?
Lowest I can set is 27, but thats still really noisy.

chris@chrispc ~ % aticonfig --pplib-cmd "set fanspeed 0 28"
PPLIB command execution is Successful!
chris@chrispc ~ % aticonfig --pplib-cmd "set fanspeed 0 27"
PPLIB command execution is Successful!
chris@chrispc ~ % aticonfig --pplib-cmd "set fanspeed 0 26"
PPLIB command execution has failed!
ati_pplib_cmd: execute "set" failed!
chris@chrispc ~ %

I am sure, the card would not instantly burn with lower speeds:

chris@chrispc ~ % aticonfig --od-gettemperature

Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series 
                  Sensor 0: Temperature - 38.50 C
chris@chrispc ~ %

Cdh · 2010-03-22 23:09:14

Vi0L0 wrote:

with fglrx-2.6.33.patch catalyst_10.4_beta is working well on 2.6.34-rc2 kernel
does it mean that we are now faster than nvidia with kernel support? xD

I wanted to try it but it gets this error:

chris@chrispc ~/catalyst-test % sudo modprobe fglrx
FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.34-rc2-rc/video/fglrx.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
1 chris@chrispc ~/catalyst-test % dmesg | tail -1
fglrx: Unknown symbol __cmpxchg_wrong_size
chris@chrispc ~/catalyst-test %

I did apply the 2.6.33 patch as it said:

patching file common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/drmP.h
patching file common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c
patching file common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_acpi.c
Hunk #1 succeeded at 15 with fuzz 2.
patching file common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_agp.c
patching file common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_io.c
patching file common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_osconfig.h
patching file common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_pci.c
patching file common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_str.c
patching file common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/kcl_wait.c
patching file common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/make.sh

I did this by adding the 2.6.33 patch block where I changed the statement that determines the 2.6.33 kernel to 2.6.34. (and uname -r |grep -c "2.6.34" returns 1)

##Kernel 2.6.33 patch
if [ `uname -r |grep -c "2.6.33"` != 0 ]; then
cd "${srcdir}/fglrx-installer-8.721/"
patch -Np1 -i ../fglrx-2.6.33.patch || return 1
fi

##Kernel 2.6.34 patch
if [ `uname -r |grep -c "2.6.34"` != 0 ]; then
cd "${srcdir}/fglrx-installer-8.721/"
patch -Np1 -i ../fglrx-2.6.33.patch || return 1
fi

I tried googling that problem but I had not much luck.

#19 has the same problem with 2.6.33, no answers - http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?p=115758

Another one with this problem, solved with 8.690-3 for them - http://old.nabble.com/-Cooker--Re:--RPM … 64657.html

And that's all I found...

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