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#1 2010-03-24 15:12:05

toxygen
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What happened to the comments?

I searched forums, aur, and wiki, and maybe it's my new smoking habit or my lack of sleep, but what happened to the comments on AUR? specificially the firefox-pgo packages (firefox-pgo, firefox-pgo-beta, firefox-pgo-minefield)?  I swear they were there two days ago.  now, all gone...

i am using firefox-3.7a3, i figured maybe a script or something had made them disappear, but no, went back to 3.6.2, disabled all scripts/addons, still not there.  did i miss a news item about this?
and if they are hidden somewhere, can someone kindly point me to them?

Thanks!


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#2 2010-03-24 15:30:31

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Re: What happened to the comments?

I'm wondering too. Went to check a comment on one of my packages and I was quite surprised to see nothing at all, while there used to be comments on the page. More than one tongue.


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#3 2010-03-24 15:32:53

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Re: What happened to the comments?

Allan has been up to something, it seems.


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#4 2010-03-24 15:47:31

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Re: What happened to the comments?

I'm actually quite liking things as is now. kernel26-ice was taking ages to load....


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#5 2010-03-24 16:15:46

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Re: What happened to the comments?

Yip. Definitely has Allan's signature all over it.

His wife should keep him away from that computer...


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#6 2010-03-24 17:19:29

vinneh
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Re: What happened to the comments?

Oh, I thought I was going crazy..

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#7 2010-03-24 17:29:21

toxygen
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Re: What happened to the comments?

so Allan broke it? I thought that only happened with arch-related distributions... big_smile


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#8 2010-03-24 17:29:55

Daenyth
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Re: What happened to the comments?

Louipc had to remove all comments due to encoding issues when updating the database -- see aur-general for more details.

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#9 2010-03-25 22:14:09

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Re: What happened to the comments?

any chance to get the comments back? they were _very_ useful...


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#10 2010-03-25 22:20:26

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Re: What happened to the comments?

.:B:. wrote:

Yip. Definitely has Allan's signature all over it.

His wife should keep him away from that computer...

She would like to but I am an addict.

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#11 2010-03-26 00:50:57

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Re: What happened to the comments?

WHO classifies archlinux as a schedule II drug.


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#12 2010-03-26 01:01:28

falconindy
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Re: What happened to the comments?

I've deleted existing comments from the AUR.

I ran into a problem juggling the encodings, which was the problem I was
trying to fix. The aur should properly display utf8 in comments now
though.

It may be possible to restore most of the old comments, but that's
something that we'd have to look into later.

Cheers!

For anyone too lazy to dig through the list. I was wondering about this too.

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#13 2010-03-26 09:11:41

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Re: What happened to the comments?

But why care so much about the encoding? Most comments are in plain english, and if I see a hungarian message with garbled characters, I still can figure out what it is about. Losing the comments makes AUR much less usable, I rely on the comments when I try to decide, whether I want to upgrade a package or not. And this is more important than having ti all properly encoded. You can fix the encoding while the comments are still shown. Why delete them?


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#14 2010-03-26 10:43:48

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Re: What happened to the comments?

.:B:. wrote:

Yip. Definitely has Allan's signature all over it.

His wife should keep him away from that computer...

She would rather have him break Arch than something around the house (including the baby).

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#15 2010-03-26 10:47:31

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Re: What happened to the comments?

That is very high on the list of things not break...

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#16 2010-03-27 15:12:45

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Re: What happened to the comments?

Allan wrote:

That is very high on the list of things not break...

Baby?  Congratulations!

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#17 2010-03-28 19:57:57

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Re: What happened to the comments?

SanskritFritz wrote:

any chance to get the comments back? they were _very_ useful...

Agreed.  The most useful comments were a lot of the times the maintainer didn't have time (or no longer uses Arch) and new PKGBUILDs were posted.  Also I found the note (use pastebin) to be non-considering.  Not only were AUR comments lost without comment, but now we are being told that we weren't doing comments right.  Not real happy about things sad,hope we get them back.

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#18 2010-03-28 22:53:01

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Re: What happened to the comments?

It may be possible to restore most of the old comments, but that's
something that we'd have to look into later.

lolwut? We've lost a big part of Arch Linux's history and we "may" be able to get it back? wtf? yikes

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#19 2010-03-29 07:16:21

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Re: What happened to the comments?

Agreed. I think comments are as important as packages themselves and restoring them should be the number 1 priority.


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#20 2010-03-29 08:00:31

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Re: What happened to the comments?

This issue needs more attention maybe? Should we start a poll? How can we help otherwise?


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#21 2010-03-29 08:08:17

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Re: What happened to the comments?

Polls just get closed for having empty posts....

See http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/ … 08532.html for what help is needed.

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#22 2010-03-29 08:16:29

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Re: What happened to the comments?

Please find a way to bring the comments back! The usefulness of AUR severely suffers now....

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#23 2010-03-29 09:00:26

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Re: What happened to the comments?

functionality of the aur comment system was severely lacking though (no pagination, no proper code layout etc), so wouldn't this be a good time to stop using it altogether and start using the forums for that?


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#24 2010-03-29 09:32:05

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Re: What happened to the comments?

I think AUR comments should be separate from the forums. It would be an inconvenience at the very least.


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#25 2010-03-29 10:17:29

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Re: What happened to the comments?

Are you guys kidding me?? Lost comments is nearly as bad as lost packages.

I had important comments in nearly every package. Sometimes that only some svn/git versions work properly, some notes about similar packages, notes about upstream bugs that will be fixed.

The first "this does not work" comments come in for my packages and I also didn't save all the information separately.

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